08 vs. 04...what the numbers tell us

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09-25-2008, 08:51 PM
Tyrone Bigguns

08 vs. 04...what the numbers tell us

They seem to show Obama far exceeding Kerry at this point.

2008 POLLS:

Rasmussen Tracking 09/21 - 09/23 3000 LV 49 47 Obama +2

Hotline/FD Tracking 09/21 - 09/23 903 RV 48 42 Obama +6

ABC News/Wash Post 09/19 - 09/22 780 LV 52 43 Obama +9

Ipsos-McClatchy 09/18 - 09/22 923 RV 44 43 Obama +1

Battleground Tracking 09/17 - 09/23 800 LV 46 48 McCain +2

Gallup Tracking 09/20 - 09/22 2740 RV 47 44 Obama +3

Hotline/FD Tracking 09/20 - 09/22 906 RV 47 43 Obama +4

CNN/Opinion Research 09/19 - 09/21 697 LV 51 47 Obama +4

2004 polling data

Time (877 LV) 9/21 - 9/23 48% 42% 5% Bush +6

FOX News (1000 LV) 9/21 - 9/22 46% 42% 1% Bush +4

Battleground (1000 LV) 9/20 - 9/23 50% 45% 0% Bush +5

Marist (630 LV) 9/20 - 9/22 50% 44% 2% Bush +6

CBS News (931 LV) 9/20 - 9/22 51% 42% 2% Bush +9

AP/Ipsos (931 LV) 9/20 - 9/22 52% 45% 1% Bush +7

Pew Research (989 RV) 9/17 - 9/21 45% 42% 3% Bush +3
09-25-2008, 08:53 PM
HowardRoark

Re: 08 vs. 04...what the numbers tell us

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns

They seem to show Obama far exceeding Kerry at this point.

2008 POLLS:

Rasmussen Tracking 09/21 - 09/23 3000 LV 49 47 Obama +2

Hotline/FD Tracking 09/21 - 09/23 903 RV 48 42 Obama +6

ABC News/Wash Post 09/19 - 09/22 780 LV 52 43 Obama +9

Ipsos-McClatchy 09/18 - 09/22 923 RV 44 43 Obama +1

Battleground Tracking 09/17 - 09/23 800 LV 46 48 McCain +2

Gallup Tracking 09/20 - 09/22 2740 RV 47 44 Obama +3

Hotline/FD Tracking 09/20 - 09/22 906 RV 47 43 Obama +4

CNN/Opinion Research 09/19 - 09/21 697 LV 51 47 Obama +4

2004 polling data

Time (877 LV) 9/21 - 9/23 48% 42% 5% Bush +6

FOX News (1000 LV) 9/21 - 9/22 46% 42% 1% Bush +4

Battleground (1000 LV) 9/20 - 9/23 50% 45% 0% Bush +5

Marist (630 LV) 9/20 - 9/22 50% 44% 2% Bush +6

CBS News (931 LV) 9/20 - 9/22 51% 42% 2% Bush +9

AP/Ipsos (931 LV) 9/20 - 9/22 52% 45% 1% Bush +7

Pew Research (989 RV) 9/17 - 9/21 45% 42% 3% Bush +3

Your numbers are all wrong.

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09-25-2008, 08:56 PM
Joemailman

In 2004, the biggest issue was Iraq/Homeland Security. Right now, it's overwhelmingly the economy. If it stays that way, Obama will win.
09-25-2008, 09:03 PM
texaspackerbacker

You just keep telling yourself that, Tyrone. BTW, Gallup had it dead even today.

The debates, the plethora of ads to compare, the Bradley effect, "God will CONTINUE to bless the United States of America", "the intelligence and good sense of the American people"--for ALL of those reasons, I am confident we will NOT be saddled with the HORRORS of an Obama presidency.

Oh don't worry, I WILL keep telling myself that.
09-25-2008, 09:04 PM
Tyrone Bigguns

Re: 08 vs. 04...what the numbers tell us

Quote:

Originally Posted by HowardRoark

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns

They seem to show Obama far exceeding Kerry at this point.

2008 POLLS:

Rasmussen Tracking 09/21 - 09/23 3000 LV 49 47 Obama +2

Hotline/FD Tracking 09/21 - 09/23 903 RV 48 42 Obama +6

ABC News/Wash Post 09/19 - 09/22 780 LV 52 43 Obama +9

Ipsos-McClatchy 09/18 - 09/22 923 RV 44 43 Obama +1

Battleground Tracking 09/17 - 09/23 800 LV 46 48 McCain +2

Gallup Tracking 09/20 - 09/22 2740 RV 47 44 Obama +3

Hotline/FD Tracking 09/20 - 09/22 906 RV 47 43 Obama +4

CNN/Opinion Research 09/19 - 09/21 697 LV 51 47 Obama +4

2004 polling data

Time (877 LV) 9/21 - 9/23 48% 42% 5% Bush +6

FOX News (1000 LV) 9/21 - 9/22 46% 42% 1% Bush +4

Battleground (1000 LV) 9/20 - 9/23 50% 45% 0% Bush +5

Marist (630 LV) 9/20 - 9/22 50% 44% 2% Bush +6

CBS News (931 LV) 9/20 - 9/22 51% 42% 2% Bush +9

AP/Ipsos (931 LV) 9/20 - 9/22 52% 45% 1% Bush +7

Pew Research (989 RV) 9/17 - 9/21 45% 42% 3% Bush +3

Your numbers are all wrong.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...g_elephant.jpg

I will believe them until proven wrong.

Wow. It is fun being a conservative. I'm switching!!
09-25-2008, 09:11 PM
SkinBasket

Re: 08 vs. 04...what the numbers tell us

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns

I will believe them until proven wrong.

Wow. It is fun being a conservative. I'm switching!!

LOL. It must be fun to indiscriminately chose which numbers to defend to the death and which to toss aside. Where are you hiding that recession now Tyrone? Come on. Where is it? Is it... in the closet? No. Is it... in your pants? Oh, goodness no. But I did find a hairband. Lucky me. Is it... behind the hurricane? Oh shoot! I thought I had it that time!
09-25-2008, 09:22 PM
Tyrone Bigguns

Re: 08 vs. 04...what the numbers tell us

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinBasket

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns

I will believe them until proven wrong.

Wow. It is fun being a conservative. I'm switching!!

LOL. It must be fun to indiscriminately chose which numbers to defend to the death and which to toss aside. Where are you hiding that recession now Tyrone? Come on. Where is it? Is it... in the closet? No. Is it... in your pants? Oh, goodness no. But I did find a hairband. Lucky me. Is it... behind the hurricane? Oh shoot! I thought I had it that time!

No, now that i'm a conservative, i just have to claim anything opposite my view is just Bush hate.

So much easier now that i can just rely on stock answers!!!
09-25-2008, 09:24 PM
Tyrone Bigguns

Quote:

Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker

You just keep telling yourself that, Tyrone. BTW, Gallup had it dead even today.

The debates, the plethora of ads to compare, the Bradley effect, "God will CONTINUE to bless the United States of America", "the intelligence and good sense of the American people"--for ALL of those reasons, I am confident we will NOT be saddled with the HORRORS of an Obama presidency.

Oh don't worry, I WILL keep telling myself that.

Telling myself? The numbers clearly show obama doing better than kerry.

Any other inference you want to make is your own..you will note, or rather you are too stupid to actually note that nowhere did i postulate that this means he will win.
09-25-2008, 11:15 PM
texaspackerbacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns

Quote:

Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker

You just keep telling yourself that, Tyrone. BTW, Gallup had it dead even today.

The debates, the plethora of ads to compare, the Bradley effect, "God will CONTINUE to bless the United States of America", "the intelligence and good sense of the American people"--for ALL of those reasons, I am confident we will NOT be saddled with the HORRORS of an Obama presidency.

Oh don't worry, I WILL keep telling myself that.

Telling myself? The numbers clearly show obama doing better than kerry.

Any other inference you want to make is your own..you will note, or rather you are too stupid to actually note that nowhere did i postulate that this means he will win.

Well, congrats for that!

I guess you're right, Obama before the debates is ahead of Kerry after Swift Boating.

Unlike you, I actually WILL postulate that Obama will lose--for reasons previously stated.
09-26-2008, 12:34 AM
Partial

I have to believe that Ty makes an amount of money extremely disproportionate to the his huge ego... otherwise he'd be voting republican.
09-26-2008, 06:06 AM
MJZiggy

I know plenty of people with bucketloads of money that are democrats, P. And very liberal democrats at that. Just having money does not automatically indicate that you are conservative.
09-26-2008, 02:03 PM
Tyrone Bigguns

Quote:

Originally Posted by Partial

I have to believe that Ty makes an amount of money extremely disproportionate to the his huge ego... otherwise he'd be voting republican.

Ty has to believe that you less educated as polls numbers show the less educated vote republican.