I agree. When I said it might happen, I meant someone might pay him 12 million. But not TT.
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in 2011 the salary cap was 120 million. the franchise tag for wr's was 11.4 million or 9.5% of the cap
this year, the salary cap is 143 million, and the frachinse number for wr's is 12.8 million or 8.9 % of the cap
just because the cap goes up "x" amount, doesn't mean the new number for that position is (previous year + x amount)
I'll be real disappointed in Cobb if he truly expects the Packers to fork over $12M a year.
If a team's going to throw crazy money at someone, Cobb's a guy to do it to. He can do an awful lot on the field, regardless of what position he's playing, and there's virtually no off-the-field risk. I think trying to pigeon-hole him as a slot receiver is missing the boat and teams aren't going to be doing that with him. Need an addition to help establish and/or add a winning culture in the locker room and film room? Cobb's that guy too.
There's still some hope he decides he needs to stay in Green Bay but it seems to me like someone like the Raiders are going to make it VERY tough for him to do that. There's just too much money out there.
I hope that's wrong.
I honestly value Bulaga more than Cobb anyways. TT has proven to have a difficult time finding quality olinemen. Its been ten years since we had this good of an oline. Without Cobb we still have Nelson, Adams, Abbredris, and Janis. I would much rather keep the starting oline together so I'm more worried about losing Bulaga.
The franchise number is simply the average value of the 5 top contracts at a point in time.
It has virtually no bearing on what the positions will actually be paid in free agency. That depends on which positions have the most talent available compared to the need on the teams with the most available cap space.
QBs always get paid the most...but there aren't any with any value available. That means MORE money will go to other positions, such as WR.
The cap will continue to rise...it is based on revenue and the recent TV deals demand that the cap rise more this year and next than in prior years. No one can "calculate" the next 2 caps, but everyone knows the numbers are going to move up more than they have recently. If you don't think agents will use that in negotiations, you are kidding yourself.
The age difference is an ENORMOUS premium in Cobb's favor as well. You don't have to worry about him declining due to age at any point in this contract.
Given that Cobb is 24 - he has so much upside potential. I'd really like to see him back w/ the pack (think - he's same age as Hyde, Abbrederis, Datone, Lacy).
Funny how in your earlier posts you found Cobb to be reasonable and TT unreasonable from the reports, rumors and statements. Now, when a report shows Cobb in a less favorable light, you argue that the reports are not to be believed. Of course, that has been my point all along. Both sides are posturing.
That's the million dollar question. How many years and what's the production (value)?
Do I personally think he's got upside or will he remain a top 10 WR for next 3-5 years? Are there other, current (equally young/younger) Packers ready to step into the void if he leaves?
I do not recall saying Thompson was unreasonable. I did not say reports are not to be believed. Do you actually read my posts?
I said Thompson may be stingy or unwilling to pay what a fair market price (for Green Bay) is for Cobb, which I noted as $9M a year. My opinion is that Cobb is being reasonable in his demands of Green Bay. I think Cobb would rather stay in Green Bay if the gap in pay wasn't significant to go elsewhere. I can't prove that...nor can anyone here prove the opposite at this time. We'll find out who is right after the fact.
I also did not mention that any recent report was erroneous. If anything, I said that the $12M number probably would be what Cobb was asking of a limp dick franchise like Oakland or Jacksonville. I doubt he would leave Green Bay to go somewhere like that for an extra million a year. For all any of us know, the $12M was a leak from the Raiders hoping to get Cobb to free agency.
You are right, EVERYONE is posturing. That doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on the posturing.
If I were Cobb I'd wait and check to see what the market is for me. If some team offers him #1 WR money ($11m+) he's gone. I'd love to know what we offered him that he feels isn't sufficient.
Cobb is gone. No way the Pack spend more than $8 mil.