And yet people scream and holler when M3 won't talk about his game strategy beforehand...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bretsky
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And yet people scream and holler when M3 won't talk about his game strategy beforehand...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bretsky
One of the national writers (National Football Post, maybe?) brought up that very possibility the first week after the injury. He said Henderson was the key to that defense and would be missed tremendously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bretsky
Maybe he was right.
"...no one ever has..." Why do so many just automatically assume whatever Favre does is so much better than anyone else, ever? Did you even check? You might want to look at the career of Warren Moon, and what he did at ages 39, 40, 41 and 42.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOBB DEEP
At age 39 - 377/606 for 4228 yards and 38 TDs.
At age 40, in 8 games, 134/247 for 1610 yards and 7 TDs.
At age 41, in 14 starts, 313/528, 3678 yards, 25 TDs.
At age 42 - 145/258, 1632 yards 11 TDs.
Yes, Favre is having a better year at age 40, but Moon was a lot better at 39. We'll see what happens next year and the year after for Favre, and how those years compare to Moon's at comparable ages..
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Originally Posted by Patler
MOBB favors white quarterbacks.
mobb straight up racist that sucker was simple and plain
Patlerized.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
In grand style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
I think Patlerized should be saved for when a normally intelligent poster gets faced by patler....everyone faces mobb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
"what he's done this year at his age (no one ever has)"Quote:
Originally Posted by bobblehead
Actually, if you want to get real nit picky, Mobb was correct in this statement alone. He did state THIS YEAR and at AGE 40.
But what the hell, cmon gang lets pile on!
In fairness I like mobb and had no problem with his statement. The spirit of what he said was pretty spot on. I would have bet the house that Brett could in no way be effective and throw under 10 picks as well. Moon might be the most under rated/appreciated QB of all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by gex
Saw a few lines in the JSO article on scouts looking at playoff teams' chances, and one said that it wasn't clear who was running the offense in Minny....
Wonder if there really is anything to that?
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Originally Posted by Fritz
Rumors are all over that Favre audibles more than Chilly would like. Chilly wants the run to set up the pass; I don't think their OL is powerful enough for that mentality. They seem to function best when they spread everything out and run and pass out of that formation. But it sounds like that is not Chilly's preference.
Favre throwing just 7 interceptions is truly astounding. His lowest totals as a starter were 13 in 1992, 1995 and 1996. To go from averaging 20 per year over the last 5 years, to just 7 this year, barely half of his previous low, is quite a change.
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Originally Posted by Patler
Having A. Peterson might just have a wee bit to do with that.
Well, Viking QB's threw 17 INT's last year, so we probably should give the old guy a little credit. Hopefully, he's saved up some INT's for the playoffs though.
Welcome back Joe!
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Originally Posted by Patler
He's played great for the most part this year. Much to my dismay.
Hey Joe!
I'm not sure why? He has still had 500 attempts this year. When Green was having his big years with the Packers, and led the NFL in yards over a 4 year period, Favre was still throwing 15-20 interceptions each year.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Shadow
Something is different this year.
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Originally Posted by GrnBay007
I agree. Other than the games against the Packers, I've watched Favre in all but two or three games. He's been outstanding. And ever since that comeback against the 49ers, the playbook was opened to him (until recently) and the Vikings became a dominant passing team. It only makes sense: The NFL is built around the passing game and ALL the best teams - ALL the successful teams have QBs who are in control of the offense and are good passers. Running/play good defense is the vast exception.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
Look at that last Chicago game: The Vikings screwed it up trying to rely on the pound it out run game in the first half. Open it up and let Favre run the show. He's been deadly accurate this year - and in complete control. I hope the Vikings keep refusing to figure this out.
And just WHY couldn't he have ever done that for US?????Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
Hi Joe. Welcome home.
I have a theory about that, which includes:Quote:
Originally Posted by MJZiggy
1. An awakening on Favre's part after two teams "rejected" him following:
a.) another playoff loss ending on one of his interceptions,
b.) a season end that was ugly after he was deified at the start, and
c.) the sports world recognizing how bad his season ends have been recently.
2. The extremely powerful motivation of revenge in Favre's nature.
I wonder if getting called out publicly by Thomas Jones after last season was a wake up call for Favre. Getting publicly criticized by a teammate had never happened to him before.
My theory is that Favre started with the "I'm just a cog" routine, and ended up buying into it. I thought he played well against Chicago - a game in which I thought he might revert to old habits, given Peterson's lack of production. Favre has resisted that old "I have to carry the team" mentality all season long, I think. It'll be interesting to see if he keeps it up.
I agree with this and for those that bother to read what I type (I don't blame you if you don't) , they can attest to my mantra of: favre is doing exactly what MM begged him to do in an attempt to show him whats up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
Really? Ty saw a different game then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
Ty saw Bert throw at least 3 balls that a good defense woulda picked off. Bert definitely made some bad choices. Against a very depleted Bears team..and one that lost Tillman in the second half. HOLY FUCK...ty is becoming a bear apologist!
Bert has played well, but he is having a magical season not just for his play, but the play of his opponents..ex: San fran game.
Give it up Ty,Favre played a hell of a game the SECOND half of the Chicago game. When you continually argue it,all it does is make you look like more of an idiot.
Ty is right. Wasn't there a drop by a DB on the final scoring drive by the Vikings? A drop on what should have been an easy interception? Or, was that one of the earlier scoring drives?Quote:
Originally Posted by Packerarcher
Yes there was, I thought it was the last Viking regulation drive. And Favre did do damage against a depleted defense, newly depleted in the secondary. But we are pretty deep in the weeds here looking for signs about his play. How many other QBs besides Rodgers have we considered backup DBs and dropped INTs? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
The only way to straighten this whole mess out is to beat the pants off him in the Dome in two weeks.
He did play well in the second half but that shouldn't give him a pass for his first half. One could say that Brett was the reason the Vikings cme back but than on the other hand, seeing his second half, one could also say that he was one of thne main reasons for the L because of his fist half play. What it really comes down to is when Brett gets time, he will carve you up, like any NFL QB. Arod is the only NFL QB that I have seen this year that can put numbers up while getting a heavy dose of pressure.
I am so glad the diva isn't a Packer anymore. TT's best move to date is the drafting of Rodgers, thanks Ted.
That pass was a thing of beauty! Very Favresque.
that was great!Quote:
Originally Posted by gex
He's close to 200 yards with 8 min left of 1st half.
Well, It appears Min is taking care of things on their end.
Haha that was funny.
DAYUM!!! On a frozen rope! Old boy still has the arm to make all the throws :D
Even tho it was called back, it was still fun to watch!
What the hell happened to the NYG these last 2 weeks?
Favre threw the ball 9 times in the first half of last weeks game.
This week, they opened up the pass early and blew them out.
Coincidence? Thats what they were doing back when they were undefeated.