Some serious man-boob action happening there!Quote:
Originally Posted by vince
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Some serious man-boob action happening there!Quote:
Originally Posted by vince
Arnie Herber:
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Joined the team in 1930; he was from Green Bay. Veterans nicknamed him “Dummy.” Lambeau ordered it stopped. One guy didn’t and was traded.
He could throw the ball over 80 yards. Was known for his arm…. and fearlessness.
On September 22, 1935, a legendary passing tandem was born. On the first play versus the Chicago Bears at City Stadium, Herber fired a pass to rookie end Don Hutson who ran untouched for an 83-yard touchdown as the Packers won 7-0. The Herber to Hutson combination changed the face of pro football. Herber’s ability to throw long passes stretched defenses.
The Packers' Arnie Herber became the NFL's first long-bomb passer, and he did it with unusually small hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by HowardRoark
At Green Bay West High School, Herber learned he could improve his distance and accuracy by palming the ball, rather than using the laces.
He led the league in passing three times and finished his time in Green Bay with 6,749 yards passing and 66 touchdowns
Roughly 70 years after his time in Green Bay concluded, his touchdown pass total is still good enough for fifth on the team’s all-time list (although I have a feeling he’ll drop to sixth sometime this season).
I've always heard how much bigger players are now, but they're aren't just bigger, they're a LOT bigger!Quote:
Originally Posted by vince
Fred Hulbert
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In 1895, Fred Hulbert introduced football and started the very first professional team in Green Bay.
The Packers came about as a direct result of the evolution of the professional town team that had come before them.
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Originally Posted by Denis Gullickson and Carl Hanson in "Before They Were the Packers"
The first professional football game in Green Bay, by a team led by Fred Hulbert, was played here on land that is now part of the East High School campus.
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Originally Posted by vince
The first professional football game in Green Bay, by a team led by Fred Hulbert, was played here on land that is now part of the East High School campus.[/quote]
One sight to see in Green Bay is the memorial on the north side of the Green Bay East H.S. field. It is a beautiful, classy, informative remembrance of the connections between that high school, the University of Notre Dame, and the Green Bay Packers.
Great old newspaper article on Herber. Thanks for posting it.
My, how sports writing has changed!
Here's the link to a PDF of this book.Quote:
Originally Posted by vince
https://www.transferbigfiles.com/a5a...3dOlogTA%3d%3d
It will be up until Wed. 9/15.
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Originally Posted by Freak Out
Can't be an accurate photo. He's not blue and where's his tail?
Earl L. “Curly” Lambeau (The Football Player)
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The Early Years
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Curly was an athletic phenom at East High School, strong and agile, a multi-sport athlete, captain of the football team as a senior, who was a cock-sure kid and very much a ladies’ man.
Lee Remmel has said that he believes it was Curly’s pompous air and panache that gave us the Green Bay Packers and why Green Bay still has the Packers. There were an awful lot of guys who played by the rules and didn’t break some of those social norms, and their teams of course no longer exist.
Not only was he fast and athletic, he was strong. As a high school senior in the local conference track meet, he won the shot put, discus, and hammer throw.
He was considered a triple threat on the gridiron, because he great runner, passer, and could drop-kick very well for field goals and extra points, which were a bigger part of the game in that day.
Lambeau actually coached the East football team his senior year under the supervision of a teacher who had been assigned to take charge of the team, but knew nothing about the game.
Notre Dame
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Lambeau played for legendary coach Knute Rockne at Notre Dame in 1918, making the Irish's varsity squad and lettering as a freshman, but a severe case of tonsillitis forced him to return home before his sophomore year.
History Re-Written
Packer history tends to begin in 1919 when, as the story goes, Lambeau told George Calhoun, the sports editor of the Green Bay Press Gazette, that he wanted to start up a football team. Then, Calhoun placed an article in the paper to recruit some players and the Packers were born.
This is wrong, or at the very least, isn’t the whole truth.
Calhoun did put an article in the paper, but this had been done for years to round up the town team players and begin the season. The players had already been confirmed as a matter of course from last year’s squad.
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His girlfriend at the time, who would become his first wife, Margerite (Van Kissel) Lambeau, provided another glimpse of the truth.
“Marcel (Lambeau's father) wanted Curly to return to Notre Dame that fall, but he didn't want to go. He hated school, and he had a good job with the Indian Packing Corporation. Even so, if he wanted to play football, he had to go back to Notre Dame. Or so he thought until Calhoun suggested that he could play for the town team. That sealed the deal. Lambeau stayed, and he was elected as the team captain, a title that meant he was in charge of the team on the field.”
In fact, Lambeau had illegally (according to high school rules) played for the town team prior to 1919 while he was still in high school, or after the high school season, in 1917.
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Lambeau is in the right half-back position (in the back left) of this 1917 Green Bay town team photo.
Most of the players that played in 1919 had also played for the town team (including Lambeau) in years past. The only difference in 1919 was that Lambeau, coming off the huge (and warranted) lift he had in his football status as starting back for Notre Dame, was elected captain, and this was the first year that the team was called the Packers, as Lambeau did in fact get $500 from his employer (the Indian Packing Company) for uniforms and equipment in exchange for the publicity that would come with the team being named after the company.
Otherwise, the Packers team in 1919 was a seamless continuation from previous years' teams.
On the Field
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Lambeau played for the Packers until 1929, when he ended his playing career and only coached the team.
Although Lambeau played halfback, he was the player who took the snap from the center, as was common practice during that period.
From the beginning, Lambeau was one of the most important innovators in the history of the game of football.
He decided that running the ball on every play wasn’t good enough, that passing the ball with regularity would bring greater success.
But he also took passing to another level in terms of game-planning. He determined that passing routes could be more effective when planned out, so he decided to have the receivers run specific routes.
Opposing teams hated this, as the Packers became highly effective at it. They would say that passing was for sissies.
When the Packers played a passing game against a team of miners in Michigan's Upper Peninsula, Lambeau "had to run for his life," according to Jim Doherty in Smithsonian. Lambeau later remarked, "Those miners were tough."
Not surprisingly, Lambeau threw the Packers' first official pass, first official touchdown pass, and kicked the Packers' first official field goal.
Sorry for this, but, please Rats:Educamate me!Quote:
Originally Posted by vince
What is a VARSITY?
What does it mean to "Earn a LETTER?
Google give me no clues and I keep reading this stuff. I'd like to understand.
/Thread Jack.
This is a sensational thread. I'm learning so much!
In high school predominantly today, but also in colleges, schools often have a "varsity" team as well as a "junior varsity" team. The best players play "varsity" while the younger players typically would play on the "junior varsity" team. It would have been uncommon for a first year college player in that day to be good enough (or mature enough) to play for the varsity team, which was comprised predominantly of the upper-classmen.
To earn a "letter" which would be placed on a jacket for display, players have to have played in games on the varsity team a certain amount, such as a starting player would earn.
Hope that helps Tar.
Here's an example of a letterman's jacket Tar, that you don't see much anymore, but used to be very popular with high school and college athletes. Athletes would earn their "letters" and badges by virtue of their athletic performance and display them on their jackets.
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Thanks Vince. It helps a lot!
In Oz, we have a team for each age. No matter what grade we are in, we play all our sports at our own age group. No matter how talented.
We also two teams from Grade 3 to Grade 6. Junioers and Seniors. But in High School, from Grade 7 to grade 12, we have a team per Grade/Age.
We don't have the cool looking jackets, no symbols of "belonging".
The worst thing is, we don't have cheerleaders!! :shock:
Now, I'm talking about Sydney in the 70's. Quite possibly, things have changed. Also worth pointing out: I was the captain of my cricket team and rugby League team and it made zero impression on the ladies. :x
They aren't going anywhere with pad level like that. Get low boys! - Mike McCarthyQuote:
Originally Posted by vince
Thanks for all the information vince, et.al. This thread is a great read.
In case anyone is questioning the football voracity and talents of Manboobs Buck, here's an article that shows he was indeed the man back in his day...
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Tom Silverwood
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Originally Posted by Dennis Gullickson and Carl Hanson in "Before They Were the Packers
Great work Vince. Did you raid Lee Remmel's basemnet?
Do you have a good picture of Buckets Goldenberg? There is a great picture of him in the book.