when jay cutler is by far the greatest QB your 100 year old franchise has ever had, you should quit tryingQuote:
Originally Posted by pbmax
how can they never find a good one?
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when jay cutler is by far the greatest QB your 100 year old franchise has ever had, you should quit tryingQuote:
Originally Posted by pbmax
how can they never find a good one?
I don't see Fournette having a AP type career.
we're already falling behind and we're only 4 picks in
WMU REPRESENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Corey Davis - WR - Western Michigan
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Outstanding four-year production. Alpha attitude on the field and not afraid to take on the challenge of heavy target load. Excellent competitiveness. Focuses like a laser when ball is in the air. Tracks the deep ball as well as anyone in college and understands how to stack cornerbacks and keep them on his hip. Has second gear to run under the long ball. Excels in intermediate and deep parts of the field. Route running showed improvement in 2016. Variable route speed creates indecision for defenders. Vertical routes are crisp and create tilt in off-corners and safeties that he is quick to take advantage of. Play speed features access to functional burst. Can defeat inside leverage. A quarterback's friend who works aggressively back to the ball. Dominates in red zone. High-point catcher who uses well-timed leaps and long arms to win the 50-50 throws. Increases physicality and acceleration out of routes when operating near paydirt.
WEAKNESSES Doesn't always sell his vertical routes aggressively enough to make cornerbacks open their hips. Drifts, at times, on in-breaking routes, allowing defenders to squeeze the route. Needs to improve quickness into and out of his breaks underneath. Elongated into breaks when working from slot. Has had some issues with focus drops on throws outside of his frame. Had 16 drops over last three years at Western. Free releases into his routes in college will turn into stern press challenges in the pros. Wasn't asked to do much meaningful blocking.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1
SOURCES TELL US "Man, he breaks them off with those routes. It wasn't even fair the way he did those corners in that conference. A man among boys." -- AFC North regional scout
NFL COMPARISON Eric Decker
BOTTOM LINE Touchdown juggernaut who was a four-year model of production and consistency in college. Davis has the route-running and ball skills to become a starter in the league, but it is his competitiveness and production in the red-zone that should make him a good one.
Jets are on the clock.
If I took a wr with a top 5 first round pick, damn it, he better be good.
Interesting to see who the Jets are going to take.
Cory Davis could be a very solid NFL player, I just don't know if it would have taken a 5th pick to secure him.
Another stretch - Corey Davis is decent but not that good to be 5th overall
browns wanted trubinski, now they're trying to trade their #12 pick for kirk cousins
The Bears stupidity is breathtaking!
Jamal Adams - S - LSU
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Natural-born leader of men. Well-built. Will not hesitate for one second as a hitter. Steps downhill looking to punish running backs to set a tone for defense. Toggles between patient and urgent in treks to the ball. Plays off blockers. Approaches target with open arms and wide, balanced base to limit escape routes. Intelligent field general. Gets secondary aligned properly. Plays with plus balance in coverage. Pattern reader who can digest combinations. Alert for misdirection keys from offense. Party crasher on screen plays. Can handle coverage responsibilities against tight ends. Five interceptions and two recovered fumbles over last two seasons at LSU. Special-teams terror as freshman and sophomore, notching 21 tackles. No penalties in 2016. Father, George, was a first-round pick of the Giants in 1984.
WEAKNESSES Handsy and too willing to clamp onto receivers down the field. Hard-charging downhill, but a little stiff when asked to retreat. Long speed appears to be average on tape. Eyes drop when targets approach his area. Anticipation is average, limiting his range as a center-fielder. Will give away some interceptions due to drops. Slower coming to balance as tackler on bursting runners between the tackles. Desire to limit cutbacks leads to challenging play-side tackles. Doesn't pursue with expected vigor from across the field. Aggressiveness opens him up against play-action.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1
SOURCES TELL US "The people who have been at that program the longest think he might be the best leader LSU has had in years. He's a no-doubt first-rounder. He can play all over the field and he could have an immediate impact on defense just like Landon Collins did coming out. I love him. I think he's a winner." - AFC area scout
NFL COMPARISON Darren Woodson
BOTTOM LINE Interchangeable safety with a sheriff's mentality. Adams is a physical tone-setter who should thrive near the line of scrimmage or in a robber role. Should be a commanding presence in the locker room early on and his do-as-I-do play demeanor could be the catalyst for turning a struggling defense around quickly.
LSU with 2 of the top 6 picks.
I agree. He's good, but I don't think he's Julio Jones good.Quote:
Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker
I guess they were trying to prevent anyone else moving up to take Trubinsky, I am not sure why but fuck I ain't no GM
Chargers are on the clock.
Chargers pick next
Holy moly
Mike Williams - WR - Clemson
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Prototypical height, weight, speed prospect. Fills out the uniform as well as any receiver in college football. Sells vertical push to create an early hip turn from backpedaling cornerbacks. Uses hands to create late separation on vertical throws. Long arms and big hands can go get throws at their highest point, snatching 50/50 balls away from his in-air competitors. Ball tracking is impeccable. Able to track it inside, outside or over his shoulder. Hands catcher who plucks it away from his body. Has body control to dig out the low balls and contort to grab throws Deshaun Watson leaves behind him. Concentration ramps up when routes take him between the hashes. Works middle of the field with no reservations about what is lingering. Has been asked to work all three levels of the field at Clemson. Can make cornerbacks miss after the catch and extend his play. Needs more commitment as a run blocker but has frame and strength to make a difference as a blocker.
WEAKNESSES Natural pass catcher who will occasionally run into focus drops. Drops issue found him over second half of the season. Route work lacks focus and energy. Creates very little indecision from cornerbacks with his head fakes and jab steps. Ability to win with physical traits could dry up on next level. Could use better understanding of route leverage to open wider passing lanes for quarterbacks. Plant-and-go at the stem lacks crispness as does acceleration from his cuts. Average release quickness. Gets hung up by press corners with a good lead jab. Needs to play to his size. Gets muscled against sideline too often. Fumbled twice this season. Neck injury forced him to miss entire 2015 season so until he clears combine medicals, teams may have a red flag on him.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1
SOURCES TELL US "Really pretty looking when you watch him down on the field but he's not there yet. I think he'll get there but he's not there yet. I don't think he's going to run as fast as people think. When college players get up here and find out that cornerbacks are faster and more physical, there is an adjustment period. I think it will take him some time to figure things out but I think he'll do it. He's going to be good, I just don't know if he's going to be a star." -- NFC Pro Personnel Director
NFL COMPARISON Plaxico Burress
BOTTOM LINE Williams looks the part of a WR1 and has shown an ability to work all three levels of the field after coming back from his 2015 neck injury. Williams is tough enough to be a high-volume target while working the middle of the field and his size and ball skills make him a formidable foe in the end zone. He'll have to be coached up with his routes and releases, but he has the talent to become a big safety blanket for a young quarterback.
-Lance Zierlein
Another receiver. I didn't see that coming, maybe it was a good idea for Tennessee to take Cory Davis. You never know how the draft plays out
Panthers are on the clock
What I see so far is all good for the Packers - a bunch of players taken who we wouldn't have had interest in anyway and some teams (Bears at the top of the list) hurting themselves.
Too early for those comments. Those guys were going to go before GB had a chance to pick anyways
Damn red and his official panic NFL Draft Thread! Been wondering why no one else posting.
Mitchell TrubiskyVerified account @Mtrubisky10 27 Dec 2011
I love to kiss tittiess
Mitchell TrubiskyVerified account @Mtrubisky10 11 Jan 2015
Hell yeah, Go Packers
Expensive, but better than what they have now. You could live with him for a while and look for a great one in the draft.Quote:
Originally Posted by red
Christian McCaffrey - RB - Stanford
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Smooth, controlled stride length with choppy feet for instant cuts and change of direction. Plus vision with above average anticipatory feel for opening creases. Hugs contours of the running lane and staggers and stutters his feet to maneuver in tight quarters. Protect football while running through traffic. Reads keys quickly on stretch plays. Sinks hips into sharp cuts. Equally adept darting inside or outside and is able to string moves together. Won't dance on short runs -- gets it downhill. Feet constantly in motion. Able to make defenders miss on all three levels. Willing to keep runs playside and alters his track seamlessly. Runs with multiple gears and is able to gear up or down instantly. Has experience in one-back, two-back and offset formations. Excellent hands out of backfield and can be used from slot. Devastating quickness out of breaks can mismatch linebackers. Experienced, capable punt and kick returner.
WEAKNESSES Lacks desired size of an every-down back. Has some tread worn off his tires. Logged 300-plus touches (including returns) in each of the last two seasons and was asked to grind the gears for short yardage carries. Benefitted from physical, downhill offensive line. Takes foot off gas into contact. Doesn't have NFL-caliber power to break tackles and create yardage for himself through power. Can shake tacklers, but lacks a twitchy burst to accelerate away after the cut. On stretch plays, can get too cute continuing to probe towards the perimeter rather than choosing a crease and committing. Average burst may not be enough to race past NFL speed on second level. Inconsistent squaring up blitzers in pass pro and ducks his head into contact.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1
SOURCES TELL US "I'll be his draft grades are going to be all over the place because some teams will see him as a complementary back and others will see him as a multi-touch guy. Teams who run a lot of three and four wide looks will like him because he can run those inside zone plays out of the gun and they can also motion him out of the backfield and just try and mismatch him." - AFC Pro Personnel Director
NFL COMPARISON Tiki Barber
BOTTOM LINE Multidimensional runner with flex appeal for teams looking for a player who can carry the ball 20 times or catch it 10 depending on the game plan. McCaffrey's size, power and speed are just average, but he is able to create yardage for himself with his vision and elusiveness. McCaffrey's ability to return punts and kicks could be the value sweetner that pushes his name into the first round.
when was the last time a white RB went top 10?
the 60s?
Not sure about Mike Williams, McGinn had him going 30.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz
Could be OK if mock drafters had other teams need for WR pegged correctly.
McCaffrey to the Panthers. Two RBs in the top 10
Good pick for Panthers
Glad to see the Bears and Panthers make a mess of it:)
i've seen him going top 10 for monthsQuote:
Originally Posted by pbmax
way to early for anything to have any impact on our pick
I saw McCaffrey as 3rd rounder
Easy for Ross too.
Chiefs left hanging perhaps.
RacistQuote:
Originally Posted by wist43
Peter BurnsVerified account @PeterBurnsESPN 5m5 minutes ago
Fournette, McCaffrey both didn't play in their non-CFB Playoff bowl games, didn't cost either of them in the NFL draft. Something to monitor
wow, lots of Wr's going
no CB's taken yet
great, smart moves by both IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by pbmax
so john ross will be running past house when we play them later on.