they had five straight frustrating losses in a row I think, but at least they beat Detroit at the end. Would have been nice if Crosby could have nailed that 69 yard free kick FG though...
^^^ Hundley gonna be so good, they can trade Rodgers to Cleveland for a 1, a 2, a 1, 2, 3....
I can't agree with that. I think Rodgers had a lot more going for him in 2008 than Hundley has right now.
In 2008, Clifton started 15 games, Tauscher 13. Colledge and Spitz both started all 16. Wells started 13. Colledge and Spitz were in their third years as starters, Wells his fourth. Clifton and Tauscher were in their primes. Josh Sitton had two starts as a backup rookie, Tony Mall the other 5 (3rd year, 13 previous starts.). Jennings and Driver had 15 and 16 starts, respectively. Behind them were Jones (following a good rookie year) and Nelson (rookie). Ryan Grant was in his second year, played all 16 games and had 1200 yards rushing. Donald Lee was in the middle of his 9 year career.
The offense was far ahead of what Hundley may have in terms of health, experience and reliability. The o line in 2008 had just 7 different players who played much, and only 7 starts by backups bu just two different players. Hundley quite possibly will have the 6th and 7th tackles as his starters and the #4 and 5 guards. His o line could be an absolute mess.
The defense in 2008 gave away a lot of games (as did STs), yet they had Kampman, Picket, Jolly, Hawk, Woodson and Collins starting for all 16 games. Kampman was still a sack artist, Woodson and Collins had 7 interceptions, each. Harris was still starting (12 games). Tramon Williams was the #3 CB and had 9 starts. It wasn't under transition at the time.
In 2008 it seemed like everything went wrong, every game.
You're right. I was confusing the roster that year with the one a few years prior.
But it still emphasizes my point: first year starters don't always do well, and if Rodgers couldn't even pull off 0.500 in his first year (with perhaps better on-field talent), why are we expecting Hundley to do so and why would the backup QB plan be a failure if he doesn't?
Maybe Hundley is better at this stage of his career. (I don't think this is true, but it could be). Rodgers had that great outing in Dallas to hint how good he would be. Still, don't forget that Rodgers was no slouch in 2008 - maybe compared to his now amazing standards, but he had 4000+ yards, 28TDs, 13INTs 64% completion rate, and a passer rating over 90. I'd take that from Hundley in a heartbeat.
Someone needs to find a pic of Brian Dowling wearing the #12 Packer jersey. I almost fell out of my chair when the all time roster spit him out.
All time great at Yale. Also inspired two comic versions of himself.
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I had this thought right after the injury occured. I have a hard time believing that Hundley is at the same level as Rodgers was in 2008. I know that this beat up team is not at that level. I think it will be the best coaching job MM has ever accomplished if they can win 4 more games this season.
Hundley's arm might be about as strong as Arod's, but his accuracy can't be anywhere near Arod's, especially since he's been sitting the bench for 3 years. I'm thinking that means way more INT's than we're used to.
Fuck did I hate it when this douche signed. I still don't like it today.
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Yup. If Hundley is out there with the same o-line that finished in MN, my expectations will have more to do with them than with Hundley.
I think they can play well enough on offense with Hundley, but not if Taylor, Bakhtiari and Bulaga are on the sideline. However, the offense won't be good enough to win many shoot outs, so King and Burnett have got to return.
Rodgers' injury occurred with Taylor, Bakhtiari, and Bulaga all playing, right?
I found a link to this article on another Packers' forum and I thought it was interesting. The author is addressing the notion our roster stinks outside of Rodgers. He notes that the assessment of the players is when they are healthy and not how the situation is right now.
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2...t-ted-thompson
The Green Bay Packers 2017-18 Schedule of games:
http://www.packers.com/gameday/schedule.html
This is a bad Packer Team without Aaron Rodgers. Without Aaron Rodgers too much of that weakness cannot be covered up.
If not for Aaron's heroics Vs Cincy and Dallas we are sitting at a 2-4 Record right now.
If Brett Hundley can play very well and stay uninjured behind a horrible OL That's the focus of my watch now; he might help us to 2-3 wins.
If we reach 8 wins and the ugly state of the OL and DL and our Defensive (yea right) Secondary. A whole lot has to be very wrong with the Packers Opponents.
The writing is now clearly on the wall. It's time for 'a Brand New Plan'.
What happened to Aaron Rodgers on Sunday is not a healthy prognosis for future Green Bay Packers good fortunes.
I hate the way this feels Packerrats but my guts are screaming 'Really Bad News' and any serious hopes of a Super Bowl and Aaron Rodgers.
Just how breakable is Aaron Rodgers going to be in his future and with inadequate protection on the field?
He needed the blocking ability of John Kuhn this Season and that's not there and that sucks.
Aaron Rodgers needed more successful support from the NFL DRAFT.
The Green Bay Packers now have a broken Aaron Rodgers at the Peak Point in his career. Aaron Rodgers has a tired and worn out looking Ted Thompson as his GM. It's now time to set down a Brand New Plan.
Is it all and no more Super Bowls with arguably the finest QB in NFL history all going to be written up as BAD LUCK?
Aaron Rodgers and Packer Nation deserve 'a Real Chance'.
I pray that Ted Thompson steps down.
The Poll: If the Packers get 3 more wins I'll be ecstatic. I will say that to imagine 4 more wins you might be judged 'a Homer' !?
The roster doesn't "stink". The O Line does, but the rest of it ranges from mediocre to a little above average - the D Line being the high spot. There wouldn't be much drop off at all to Hundley if the starter was not named Aaron Rodgers or maybe 3 or 4 other top level QBs.
I see the poll numbers are 17 claiming 9 or less wins, and only 4 of us saying 10 or more wins. O ye of little faith hahahahaha.
There will be 0 drop off.
Agreed. It is asking a lot. I hope he performs well and doesn't embarrass himself on Sunday. The reason why I posted this link is to show folks this roster isn't just garbage besides #12. Our D when healthy isn't elite but with Rodgers at the helm we don't need the '85 Bears.
10-6. You are all a bunch of pussies.
No offense intended Pugs.
I see a team going .500 with Hundley, for a final record of 9 - 7. Hundley, of course, will look worse than he actually is because we've been spoiled for so long. But the constant injuries on the offensive line (Bach and Bulaga back, Linsley and Taylor out) and defensive backfield (King back, House and Randall out) will sap this team. When Aaron Rodgers is not your quarterback any more, you need every ounce of talent you have.
They'll miss the playoffs by a whisker.
Is Linsley out for sure?
I think we can win some games with Hundley if he has a decent line in front of him giving him time and giving the RBs holes. Frankly if the team plays well and doesn't show signs of quitting that to me will tell me a lot about this team and the coaching staff. I'm not counting on making the playoffs and even if we did we wouldn't do much once we got in.
I think in three weeks we'll all be saying "Aaron who?"
I went with Alex as a nod to draft day.
This team will be lucky to get to 6 wins. Hundley does not have the touch on the deep ball. Jones is good, but as NO showed. All you have to do is stack the box and dare the Packers to throw. The o line is lousy at protection and the defense, despite getting King and Daniels back looked pathetic, other than a couple of picks.
The 80's called. They want their Packers team back.
that browns game is starting to look like a dog fight
especially if this team just flat out gives up on the season like they did last week when a-rod went down