I really would prefer they kept Harris instead of Franklin, if only one can stay. That is, unless Franklin shows a little more.
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I really would prefer they kept Harris instead of Franklin, if only one can stay. That is, unless Franklin shows a little more.
Hubbard is making this team. We're also going to resign Finley. We're going to say goodbye to one or two good linebackers, as we do every year. I see it coming down to Mulumba or Barrington, and I think the coaches like Barrington more.
QB (3) - Rodgers, Flynn, Tolzien
RB (4) - Lacy, Starks, Franklin, Harris
FB (1) - Kuhn
WR (5) - Nelson, Cobb, Boykin, Adams(r), Abbredaris(r)
TE (4) Finley, Quarless, Bostick, Rodgers(r)
OL (9) Bulaga, Sitton, Tretter, Lang, Bakhtiari, Barclay, Sherrod, Linsley(r), Lane
DL (5) Raji, Boyd, Thornton(r), Jones, Daniels
LB (10) Matthews, Peppers, Neal, Jones, Hawk, Barrington, Lattimore, Hubbard(UDFA-r), Perry, Bradford(r)
CB (5) Williams, Shields, Hayward, House, Bush
S (4) Burnett, Clinton-Dix(r), Hyde, Richardson
Sp (3) Crosby, Masthay, Goode
I'd be so pissed if we let Janis walk to keep Tolzien at QB.
My refrigerator delivery guy claims he went to high school with Harris. he also claims Harris is working out like a maniac and will be ready for camp. Also, he can get me a great deal on a Camaro, but I'd have to decide right away because he has 'a couple of other guys really interested in it.'
I bet he can hook you up with some weed, too.
Just goes to show you that old Maytag repairman really didn't need to be sitting around. He coulda had a sweet little side business flipping used cars and servicing housewives.
I'm going to root for Janis in camp. He looks the part. Though Dorsey from MD has some speed and size.
Could we stow Janis on the PS? He has a ton of potential but is extremely raw.
If there is any justice in the world, Janis will get the camp hamstring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_wy8ebqKbA
Observation:
** Prospects From 2014 DRAFT....7 of 9 total.
QB Rodgers, Flynn, Tolzien
RB Lacy, Starks, Harris, Franklin
FB Kuhn
WR Cobb, Nelson, ** Rd. 2 Pick - #53 overall - Davante Adams, Boykin, ** Rd. Rd. 5 Comp. Pick - 176 Overall - Jared Abbrederis
TE Quarless, Bostick, ** Rd. 3 Comp. Pick Pick #58 overall - Richard Rodgers, Taylor
T Bakhtiari, Bulaga, Barclay, Sherrod
G/C Sitton, Lang, Tretter, ** Rd. 5 Pick #161 overall - C Corey Linsley
DE Jones, Daniels, Worthy, ** Round 3, Pick #85 overall - DT Khyri Thornton
NT Raji, Boyd
DE/OLB Peppers, Neal
OLB Matthews, Perry, ** Rd. 4 Pick 121 overall Carl Bradford, Mulumba
ILB Hawk, Jones, Lattimore, Barrington
CB Williams, Shields, Hayward, House, Nixon
S Burnett, ** Rd. 1 Pick #21 overall - Clinton-Dix, Hyde, Richardson
ST Crosby, Masthay, Goode
GO PACK GO !
Several year end evaluations mentioned that Goode was a bit erratic last year, although, to be honest. I didn't notice it. His downfield coverage has always been below par, I think. I wonder if it is feasible from a practice standpoint to have Linsley, who is reportedly a good long snapper, be the regular at that and the backup C.
Probably not. MM has said he doesn't like to use the backup QB because he can't be in two places at once, practicing with the O and with the punter or kicker. He would probably feel the same about the backup center.
QB Aaron Rodgers, Matt Flynn, Scott Tolzien
Competition: Backup QB - Tolzien could beat out Flynn for the backup spot. If so, Flynn probably gets cut.
RB Eddie Lacy, James Starks, John Kuhn, DuJuan Harris
Competition: 4th String RB - Johnathan Franklin, Rajion Neal, or LaDarius Perkins could win a 4th RB spot.
WR Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Davante Adams, Jarrett Boykin, Jared Abbrederis
Competiton: Backup Slot WR - Myles White could beat out Abbrederis for the backup slot receiver spot.
Competition: 6th WR vs Roster Numbers - Jeff Janis, Kevin Dorsey, or Chris Harper could win a 6th WR spot.
TE Andrew Quarless, Brandon Bostick, Richard Rodgers, Ryan Taylor
Competition: Backup TE/Special Teams Ace - Jake Stoneburner could beat out Taylor for a backup spot.
Competition: 4th TE vs. Roster Numbers - Green Bay could go with three TEs.
OL David Bakhtiari, Josh Sitton, J.C. Tretter, T.J. Lang, Bryan Bulaga, Derek Sherrod, Corey Linsley, Don Barclay, Lane Taylor
Competition: 9th OL - An unheralded young player could beat out Taylor for a interior OL backup spot.
Competition: 9th OL vs. Roster Numbers - Green Bay could carry eight OL. Unlikely, but possible.
DL Julius Peppers, B.J. Raji, Mike Daniels, Datone Jones, Josh Boyd, Khyri Thornton, Jerel Worthy
Competition: 7th DL - Letroy Guion or Mike Pennel could beat out Worthy for a backup spot, if Worthy does not show vast improvement in training camp.
OLB Clay Matthews, Mike Neal, Nick Perry, Carl Bradford, Andy Mulumba
Competition: 5th OLB - Nate Palmer could beat out Mulumba for a backup spot.
Competition: 5th OLB vs. Roster Numbers - Green Bay could go with four OLBs.
ILB A.J. Hawk, Brad Jones, Jamari Lattimore, Sam Barrington
Competition: Starting ILB - Jamari Lattimore or Sam Barrington could beat out Brad Jones for starting ILB. I'd like to see Bradford given a shot, but it's unlikely.
CB Sam Shields, Tramon Williams, Casey Hayward, Davon House, Jarrett Bush
Competition: Backup CB - Demetri Goodson, James Nixon, or Jumal Rolle could beat out House or Bush for a backup spot.
S Morgan Burnett, Hasean Clinton-Dix, Sean Richardson, Micah Hyde
Competition: Backup S - Green Bay could carry four true safeties, giving Chris Banjo a shot at a roster spot. Otherwise, Green Bay could roll with Hyde and/or Bush as an emergency 4th safety.
ST Mason Crosby, Tim Masthay, Brett Goode
At least one UDFA will make this team. I'd also be pissed if we kept that scrum Tolzein over Janis.
Quarterback (2):
Flynn, Matt
Rodgers, Aaron
Wide Receiver (6):
Abbrederis, Jared (Or White)
Adams, Davante
Boykin, Jarrett
Cobb, Randall
Janis, Jeff (Or Dorsey)
Nelson, Jordy
Tight End (3):
Lyerla, Colt (Or Bostick)
Quarless, Andrew
Rodgers, Richard
Running Back (5):
Harris, DuJuan (Or Franklin)
Lacy, Eddie
Liaina, Ina (Or Kuhn)
Neal, Raijon (Or Perkins)
Starks, James
Center (2):
Linsley, Corey
Tretter, J.C.
Guard (3):
Lang, T.J.
Sitton, Josh
Taylor, Lane
Tackle (4):
Bakhtiari, David
Barclay, Don
Bulaga, Bryan
Sherrod, Derek (Or Tolzien - quarterback)
Defensive Line (7):
Boyd, Josh
Daniels, Mike
Jones, Datone
Neal, Michael
Raji, B.J.
Thornton, Khyri
Worthy, Jerel
Inside Linebacker (4):
Barrington, Sam (Or Jones)
Bradford, Carl
Hawk, A.J.
Lattimore, Jamari
Outside Linebacker (5):
Hubbard, Adrian (Or Banjo - safety)
Matthews, Clay
Mulumba, Andy
Peppers, Julius
Perry, Nick
Cornerback (6):
Goodson, Demetri (Or Bush)
Hayward, Casey
House, Davon
Hyde, Micah
Shields, Sam
Williams, Tramon
Safety (3):
Burnett, Morgan
Clinton-Dix, Ha'Sean
Richardson, Sean
Special Teams (3):
Crosby, Mason
Masthay, Tim
Goode, Brett
It might also be that they view Barclay as a capable backup at guard, and they let Taylor go. In that case, we could be keeping a third QB or perhaps an extra running back or DLineman.
PS salaries do count against cap. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/8/3...es-eligibility
QB Aaron Rodgers, Matt Flynn
RB Eddie Lacy, James Starks, DuJuan Harris, Johnathan Franklin
FB John Kuhn
WR Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Jarrett Boykin, Davante Adams, Jared Abbrederis
TE Andrew Quarless, Brandon Bostick, Richard Rodgers, Colt Lyerla
OL David Bakhtiari, Josh Sitton, J.C. Tretter, T.J. Lang, Bryan Bulaga, Don Barclay, Derek Sherrod, Corey Linsley
DL Mike Daniels, B.J. Raji, Datone Jones, Mike Neal, Khyri Thornton, Josh Boyd, Jerel Worthy
LB Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers, Nick Perry, Carl Bradford, Adrian Hubbard, A.J. Hawk, Brad Jones, Jamari Lattimore, Sam Barrington
CB Sam Shields, Tramon Williams, Casey Hayward, Davon House, Jarrett Bush, Demetri Goodson
S Morgan Burnett, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Micah Hyde, Sean Richardson
ST Mason Crosby, Tim Masthay, Brett Goode
Scott Tolzien could beat out Flynn for the backup QB spot or he could show enough to make the roster as the third string QB. With a completely healthy roster I see him being the last cut. However, it's probably more likely that a roster spot opens up for him with an injury to a RB, WR, DL, or LB.
My gut tells me that either Harris or Franklin makes the roster, but not both. I lean Harris because he's shown me more, but I wouldn't be surprised if Rajion Neal or LaDarius Perkins knocks the loser of the RB3 battle off the roster.
Eight on the OL is light, but they've carried eight before and I don't see anybody worthy of the 9th OL spot. Sherrod can back up at both OT spots. Barclay can backup at OG and OT. Tretter or Linsley could also kick out to OG with an injury there.
I see one of my projected DL getting cut. Perhaps for Jeff Janis. I suspect it will be Jerel Worthy, if he doesn't show improvement. If they want another big body, I could see Letroy Guion earning a spot also.
My gut tells me that Jake Doughty will be surprise in camp and earn a roster spot, but I don't have a feel for whose roster spot that will be. It wouldn't be a shock to me if Lattimore or Barrington beats out Jones. If that were to happen, I could see the Packers parting ways with Jones and opening a spot for a guy like Doughty.
The last OLB spot is interesting. With a second year jump either Andy Mulumba or Nate Palmer could beat out Adrian Hubbard.
I have Richardson beating out Banjo for the last safety spot. I think he gives the Packers something different at that spot.
The last roster spot came down to Jeff Janis vs. Demetri Goodson. I project Goodson, primarily because he was drafted ahead of Janis.
I like this roster. If healthy, this is a championship contender.
Yes that looks really good to me too - without the benefit of time to see who inevitably misses time in camp and gets PUP'd or IR'd...
I too think they'll go with 8 linemen and keep a couple on the PS more for emergency than development. The OL looks good to me but at this point it looks like it only goes 8 deep in terms of who you'd be remotely comfortable playing significant minutes and that's assuming (a good assumption I think) that Linsley proves out.
I know he's already 25 I believe but I think Goodson is a PS candidate because they'll have House and Bush for gunner ST duties and will want a bigger body ST ace like Taylor or the LB prospect you mentioned...
I've been curious to see the big receiver they stole from the Seahawks/Niners who was a 4th round pick last year ever since they got him. I think he might have a chance to be one of those unique guys who McCarthy could use creatively in a pseudo H-back/slot movement type role to get him mismatched with LBers. He's pretty thick for a wideout and has decent wheels if I'm not mistaken.
Now I'm curious to see Janis too because of his raw potential but my guess is he's a PS guy or someone who comes down with a mysterious injury just before cut-down day to buy some time for him to be retained for next year.
If Rodgers and Lyerla show promise in camp I could see Taylor replacing Bostick on the 53 because he fills a ST role that none of the other TE's likely do, though Lyerla was a bad-ass LBer in high school. But if he's on the 53 I gotta believe he's going to be getting minutes on offense. I could be off base because we haven't really seen enough of him but I don't think Bostick is much of an inline blocker or kamikaze-type on ST that McCarthy looks for in his reserve TE's. There's not enough room for 3 TE's who are all good receivers but don't give you value on ST and as a blocker. Most rooks need to develop in those areas because they weren't asked to do it much before - particularly not against NFL linemen and linebackers who make a living tossing experienced TE's around who are supposed to be good at it. If that's accurate about Bostick it could be his downfall this year due to roster needs and talent at other positions.
After looking at this Aaron Rodgers interview your going to be psyched.
Aaron is upbeat/optimistic about "the maze" that's the roster right now. With the new fellas he mentions learning the play book as quickly as possible. He likes the additions at WR and talks about the improvements he expects in season 1-2 and 2-3 players in terms of the jump in their NFL abilities/confidence. He's looking forward to a much improved defense.
He likes the additions on "D" of LB/DE Julius Peppers He feels at home now in Green Bay.)and DT Letroy Guion (6'- 4" 315 lbs) and 7 Yrs. NFL experience. The media asks a few questions about the Center position. His response and center should be noted.
Aaron also talks about his off season conditioning. It looks like YOGA is the thing and conditioning Packers now (see WR Randall Cobb who makes some interesting comments in his interview). He believes with the three new additions and more growth from the returnee's at WR the Packers WR Corps will have a whole different look this season.
Also look for the Hasean "Ha Ha"Clinton-Dix interview. I like his down to earth style.
Other interviews...Rookie TE Colt Lyerla (the fans are on his side and he feels he's in the best spot ...excited about his opportunity in Green Bay). He said that he wasn't singled out in any way in terms of his past and what is expected of him as a Packer prospect. You'll enjoy his calm nature/attitude.
Again this season we have lots to choose from at the TE spot. I'll be surprized if TT signs JerMichael Finley. He'll want too much $money$ and TT would be wise to convince JF to accept less and return to the Packers to see where he really is. If TT signs him and we see more potential with other TE"s on our roster the trade JerMichael Finley option may open up.
In addition you may enjoy the Rookie CB Demetri Goodson Interview. This is a confident young man.
it's going to be a real battle before the 2014 Green Bay Packers roster is down to 53. That roster will be very talented and dep and we're in for a terrific season Packerrats.
GO PACK GO !
Good list Harv, some thought went into it.
I know what you're saying about 8 OL, but I can't see them going with the list you put up - primarily because of those 8, Bulaga and Sherrod are two of them! I can't see TT putting that much faith in both of them being ready, and staying available through the season. I think another body gets added to that list from somewhere.
Bold call on Worthy. Give up on a 2nd round pick after 2 seasons? That would be a loss.
What do you like so much about Hubbard, the UDFA you have making the team at LB?
The last CB spot will be an interesting battle. Does Bush hold on for another year? Do they keep House, who has shown flashes of both good play and suckiness? Keeping an eye on Goodson, who's older but obviously very athletic as a two sport athelete - only person to ever start an NCAA tournament and BCS bowl game!
After seeing the guys who couldn't muster up the strength to practice in the OTA's I am thinking we may have some real shockers on the final 53. Quarless seems to have "sat" his way out of a job unless he dominates TC. Worthy might have a long road to travel as well. I can't see them giving up on Perry yet, he has flashed and he was a 1st. Right now, Worthy is looking to be my :shock: WTF!! cut.
PS...everyone who had Franklin on the 53 is officially wrong.
Well here is my updated version...
QB Rodgers, Flynn
RB Lacy, Starks, Harris,
FB Kuhn
WR Cobb, Nelson, Adams, Boykin, Abbrederis, Jeff Janis
TE Quarless, Bostick, Rodgers, Colt
T Bakhtiari, Bulaga, Barclay, Sherrod
G/C Sitton, Lang, Tretter, Linsley, Taylor
DE Jones, Daniels, Thornton, Worthy
NT Raji, Boyd
DE/OLB Peppers, Neal
OLB Matthews, Perry, Bradford, Hubbard
ILB Hawk, Jones, Lattimore, Barrington
CB Williams, Shields, Hayward, House, Bush
CB/S Hyde
S Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Richardson
ST Crosby, Masthay, Goode
Whoops