Sounds like Borland had a genetic pre-disposition to win the Extra Heartbeat award. UNSOUND!
Five heartbeats is even better!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vp6riby_zg
Sounds like Borland had a genetic pre-disposition to win the Extra Heartbeat award. UNSOUND!
Five heartbeats is even better!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vp6riby_zg
Outperformed all expectations in college. I wouldn't mind him as a backup and STer. As a starter I think he would be someone you were always looking to replace/upgrade.
OK all you Badger homers, no one stepped up to the plate to address the issue of Borland's injury history, so I researched it myself. While he might not have Hodge-like bad knees, he apparently had an off-season surgery on his shoulder after his freshman year, played one game in which he re-injured it, missed the second game and played six plays in the third before shutting down for the season and a second surgery in a red-shirt sophomore season. Since then he has missed a couple more games with a hamstring injury.
So, he is a short in height, exceedingly short-armed, some what slow, average athlete who hits big with a shoulder that has been operated on twice already. He essentially missed one full season because of a shoulder, plus at least a couple games in another season due to a hamstring injury.
Isn't that the kind of player most of you want TT to stay away from?
Except that, understandable concerns aside for the moment, he played for the better part of two years and did not suffer from it again. So he is a light year or so ahead of Datko in that department. He has demonstrated on the field he has recovered.
What that means long term, I have no idea.
I think you would be challenged to find anything who really liked the Justine Harrell pick
A least a few in here would like Borland
Truth be told I'm not sure he's a fit in Green Bay. We need some extreme speed at LB so San Fran and Seattle don't keep making is their bitches. With the speed...he also needs to be able to play....aka..Brad Jones...Goodbye
But I do think he'll be successful in the NFL
I'd take him on my team...in the right round. If he slides enough, draft him.
I feel the need for speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUpwLhZh66A
That's right, we need someone dangerous.
Nice job on the research Patler.
Borland was a great college player. I'm not convinced he'll be a great pro player unless he's in the right scheme. I don't think he's a great fit in GB and would prefer a bigger, faster ILB.
The injuries are a concern and many are dinging Mosley in another forum topic for it.
Not that I absolutely think Mosley is Patrick Willis and Borland is DJ Smith, but I worry about Borland's ability to consistently take on a OG or cover a TE when he's giving up 4-5 inches in height/arm length.
Patler with some good draft prognostication:
Bad shoulder knocks Badgers' Borland off one NFL draft board
or perhaps, Patler is a mole trying to get Borland to fall to a team in the late 2nd/early 3rd.
In other news, some things have not changed:
Meanwhile, executives with three teams said their medical people weren't concerned about the concussion history of Badgers wide receiver Jared Abbrederis.
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ummm.Quote:
short with Tyrannosaurus rex arms
According to the article, he had two surgeries on his left shoulder and one on the right. I was aware of only the two on his left shoulder. I would not invest a high draft choice in a linebacker who has had three shoulder surgeries already.
Quote:
Borland was a true freshman in 2009 when he played with a torn labrum in his left shoulder. After the season, he underwent surgery and sat out spring practice.
In 2010, Borland injured the same left shoulder early in the season, played in just two games and had more surgery. In December 2010, he had surgery on his right shoulder for a torn labrum.
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BUMP for my man BORLAND...........doing very well since given the opportunity !!!!
We'll see how many seasons he lasts...........
I read he already tweaked his shoulder, but he obviously played.
He looks like he belongs. I was very wrong about him. I thought he'd be too small. Maybe he is helped out by the other great players around him in SF. Maybe he is just a hard nosed guy. So was Abdul Hodge, though, and he had similar size, speed, etc. He didn't last :-/
Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 54s54 seconds ago
Former @BadgerFootball and current @49ers linebacker Chris Borland (12 tackles, two INTs vs. #NYG) is the NFC Defensive Player of the Week.
He had a great game. He has all the instincts in the world. Let's see if he can keep it up. I'm still skeptical.
I thought he would fail simply because Bretsky liked him. My player evaluation system is collapsing.
I was on the Borland train as my vote will attest. Nice job nailing this one Bretsky!
Guy has instinct coming out of his ears which makes up for his size issue. But hey, when you have Hawk and B. Jones inside, why bother with this type of prospect. We were set.
He sure looks puny out there.
I'm guessing he's going to be a good player - no risk there given his recent performance. But he could break, especially those dicey shoulders.
Seriously? Wouldn't most of you have jeered TT for drafting a hard-hitting linebacker who has already had two surgeries on one shoulder and one on the other? I have read over and over on here that TT takes too many risks on players with injury histories, and/or doesn't adequately assess injury risks on players. Here was a guy who had significant, repeated injuries of the type you certainly expect a linebacker to have trouble with, and TT should have drafted him?
A linebacker with three shoulder surgeries already? One who reportedly was taken off a few teams boards because they thought he already needed another shoulder repair? No thanks. Not in the early rounds anyway. All the instincts, effort and desire in the world do no good for a player on IR.
It all comes to down to risk tolerance. I for one would not have jeered TT for drafting an undersized LB with injury history.
Because having the two banana slugs we had for inside LB's to end the season, and started the season with again this year, is worth the risk in my view.
Every player comes with flaws. Torrence Marshall was a gifted athlete with impressive size. But he had a ten cent head and the instinct of a fence post.
A fourth down "flyer" if you will on an injury risk, on a position where results have been less than stellar would have been fine with me.
One could also argue he's a TT type of player. Solid character, hard worker, productive, "Packer person" if you will. A football player, not a combine freak.
Also, no guarantee the player with pristine health doesn't shred his knee first play. Any snap could be the last snap as Collins & Finley can attest.
I don't think giving up picks to move up get Borland in the 3rd would be wise. Thanks for correcting my error on the round drafted.
But if he had, I wouldn't have jeered him.
Carry on.
He's a baller who sticks his nose in there with the best of em and sniffs out deflections and balls on the ground. It's a little early yet but so far so good. He'll be exposed if/when he has to cover for any length of time down the middle or gets matched up in the slot against any number of big fast tight ends or just about any inside receiver. A ton of running backs out of the backfield will even make him look bad before long. Isolate him in the passing game and keep him from hiding in a zone and he'll have issues. I'd still say if he displaces Willis or Bowman next year that means the Niners D is more susceptible than it once was.
Now there's a ringing endorsement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bretsky