I'd give the MVP to Sherman before Romo, Brady, or Wilson
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I'd give the MVP to Sherman before Romo, Brady, or Wilson
Romo can't get an award that belongs to DeMarco Murray if it goes to a Cowboy. Or the offensive line.
Romo has had a nice stretch of games these past few weeks but how can he win the MVP when he isn't even the MVP of his own team? If Rodgers has a nice game, has more than one TD and we win Aaron will win it.
I'd go with JJ Watt
If Aaron Rodgers and the Packers show up on Sunday... Aaron Rodgers wins the NFL MVP.
It's 'only' Aaron Rodgers award to lose.
Everything else that we read and listen to is spin.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/24/sp...2014.html?_r=0
The Envelopes, Maybe: Predicting the 2014 N.F.L. Award Winners
By: CHASE STUARTDEC. 23, 2014
" With one game left in the N.F.L. regular season, there is little drama surrounding which players will wind up winning the annual awards.
Aaron Rodgers, the leader of the Packers’ ruthlessly efficient offense, is likely to be the N.F.L.’s most valuable player.
He leads the league in Adjusted Net Yards Per Attempt, ranks first in interception rate (1 percent), second in touchdown rate (7.2 percent), and third in net yards per pass attempt (7.57), an across-the-board level of dominance that cannot be matched.
Green Bay leads all teams in points scored per drive, while the Packers have punted a league-low 48 times. The Packers’ offense is a ruthlessly efficient offensive machine, and Rodgers is the driving force behind the team’s success. "
Please click on the LINK where the article offers a pick for all of the NFL Awards.
Comment woodbuck27:
The MVP Award votes will get split up with a lot of hype for JJ Watt but in the end Aaron Rodgers will get the most support. A win Vs Detriot will sure go a long way to solidifying that result. :-)
GO Aaron GO ! GO PACK GO !!
To say he's the Most Valuable Packer wouldn't be right, but Cobb has been pretty damn important this season. Nevermind his TD's; the guy's a first down machine. Plus, he's a legitimate weapon out the backfield. I don't think there's anyone else on the roster that could take his place.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...al-the-nfl-mvp
Comment woodbuck27:
Check out this hype that I entreat it as trivia:
Houston Texans' JJ Watt Needs 20 Sacks to Steal the NFL MVP. by the way the author sure has been wrong a lot this season.
By: Rivers McCown , AFC South Lead Writer
Dec 22, 2014
Final comment:
Nice try 'Rivers McCown'.
it was all Rodgers until the last two games. now it's all watt. AR's gonna need one hell of a game tomorrow.
Do you think we'd be 11-4 right now if we had JJ and Houston had Rodgers? I submit if Rodgers was the Texans' QB they win that division and are in the playoffs. This is why Watt be the DPOY and not MVP. The MVP isn't always the best player but the one who makes his team great. This is a QB driven league and why the QB wins this award almost all every year lately.
Game Set Match. Remember the days when Rodgers wasn't tough or clutch?
The legend grows.
If JJ Watt actually was good enough to get his team into the playoffs, he might actually earn some consideration.
However, he is not actually that good. He's the Kevin Love of the NFL...a guy who posts monster stats on a team that never goes anywhere. Sure, he's good...but you can't tell if a player is elite until they play in meaningful games. What meaningful NFL game has JJ Watt ever played in?
Right, the MVP award goes to best QB that makes playoffs.
I'm disagreeing with your theory that JJ Watt is not so great because his team didn't make playoffs.
I'm not so much dumping on the playoff miss...they were a Ravens loss away from making it.
I'm far more leaning toward the inferior schedule the Texans played in terms of facing experienced, elite QBs. Did Watt rack up this incredible season facing superior QB competition? Did he play in meaningful games against top talent? The answer is a resounding NO.
Did he face Tom Brady? No. Peyton Manning? No. Aaron Rodgers? No.
When the Texans did face an upper tier QB, they ALWAYS lost. Twice against Luck? Two losses. Once against Big Ben? Another loss. Once against Romo? Yet another loss.
In today's pass happy NFL, it is easier for QBs to put up numbers...and it is easier for DEs to rack up sacks. 20 sacks today is probably equal to 30+ just a generation ago. It isn't a stat that impresses me. Wins impress me. Wins over elite talent really impresses me. Watt did not have a win over elite talent. He had a great year. He's not the most valuable player in the league...not by a long shot.
Aaron Rodgers certainly was more effective against poor defenses...that is expected. So let's throw out all the gaudy numbers he put up against piss poor defenses. He is supposed to toy with those units, and he did to a VAST extent.
However, Rodgers did face a fair number of very good to great defenses this season to test him. Using top 10 defenses...based on total yardage allowed over the season...Rodgers faced those units 6 times out of 16 games. Rodgers was .500 in those 6 games...he won the home games, lost the road games. He was not consistently dominant against elite defenses, but he held serve at home and had several big performances.
Seattle (#1) - Week #1 - Rodgers was mediocre in this game. Granted, it was the first game of the year...on the road...against the defending champs. He completed 70% of his passes, but wasn't impactful.
Jets (#6) - Week #2 - Rodgers and the offense was not firing on all cylinders here either, but in key situations Rodgers was good...QBR over 84. 7-14 on 3rd downs. 3 TD passes, including an 80 yarder to Jordy late in the 3rd quarter to give Green Bay the lead.
Detroit (#2) - Week #3 - Very tough start to the season facing the top 2 defenses in the league on the road! The Lions made things uncomfortable for Rodgers and he wasn't effective on the road.
Carolina (#10) - Week #7 - Rodgers dominated a good Panther defense. Only 3 incompletions. 94 QBR. 3 TD passes.
Buffalo (#4) - week #15 - Perhaps Rodgers' worst game ever. He certainly got no help from his receivers with 7 drops, but some of that was due to inaccuracy by Rodgers.
Detroit (#2) - week #17 - With a division title on the line and a nagging injury in cold temperatures, Rodgers posted a 97+ QBR against an elite defense in an epic performance.
In addition to those, Rodgers also had statement WINS over capable Patriots (#13) and Dolphins (#12) defenses.
The best offense JJ Watt can claim to have beaten this year...using the same yardage metric? Baltimore at #12.
Bottom line? Against better offenses, JJ Watt and his defense did not do enough to win games. It wasn't like Houston's offense was horrible either to the point they had to be overcome...they weren't great, but they were 14th in points scored in the league. If Watt was SO dominating and SO disruptive and SO much better than any defensive player since LT...why were they only 9-7 against a cupcake schedule?
Sorry...I do not see how any of that translates to an MVP award for Watt. If he put up the numbers he did and his team was 12-4 or 13-3...yeah, put him in the debate like LT was. However, you can't be valuable if your team doesn't get wins...because WINS are what ultimately determine value more than anything else. Rodgers got wins against elite competition and in big moments. Watt did not.
Good stuff King.
If Watt gets the MVP over Rodgers it will be a crime.
Nice post. I repped you. I don't agree with everything you write, but it's a decent argument. I forget who floated the argument that other teams elevate their play against Rodgers, but I 'd like to see (or do myself) that analysis, especially in light of the Jets' performance at Miami yesterday.
Here are some numbers on Rodgers versus the best Defenses he has faced this season. He has not fared as well as he has done in the past and the author concludes its a result of a small sample size. But I blame this on the lack of a true third option in the passing game plus road protection woes. Adams/Quarless/Rodgers/Boykin only dominated in maybe 1 or 2 games this season (domination in the statistical sense, beating one on one coverage while attention was devoted elsewhere).
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/gam...-game-previews
Quote:
The Packers have been beaten pretty easily in three games against those top-ten pass defenses, winning only against Miami with some late-game heroics. Fortunately for the Packers, there is little reason to think that Rodgers' inability to find more consistent success against the NFL's best pass defenses will continue. Over the last five years, Rodgers has fared well against top-ten pass defenses, and only a little worse than he has against the rest of the league. The four games from earlier this year look like a small-sample quirk.
In fact, most quarterbacks perform similarly against the top pass defenses and the rest of the league in terms of DYAR per game. That's not all that surprising since DYAR accounts for the opposing defense's strength.
Carolina was a bad defense for a good portion of the season that came on at the end to finish medicare overall. They were just starting their upswing when the Packers faced them.
There are many ways to evaluate the greatness of a defensive lineman. Quality of opposing QBs is pretty low on that list. Stats don't tell the story either.
I think JJ Watt is the best player in the NFL. It is a subjective evaluation. I get that the MVP Award is reserved for QBs.
Well Packerrats the latest news on the NFL MVP:
Maybe it isn't Aaron Rodgers?
The buzz is that huge support exists (It's all over twitter) Tony Romo and of course as we know ....JJ Watt.
Aaron Rodgers almost appears as the forgotten man.
"What in hell is going on around here?"
I support the obvious choice or Aaron Rodgers for NFL MVP for the 2014 Season.
I hope Rodgers doesn't get the MVP. Give it to Romo. a little extra motivation couldn't hurt.
This is not basketball. There are about 35 critical players on each team that determine record, not to mention coaching. If anything, outstanding players on inferior teams have proven themselves more valuable than great players who benefit from talent around them.
The QB position is a little different in that it is so determinative But myself, I still would reward impact more so than the final team record.
I get what the MVP award has become - the coronation of the QB of a Super Bowl bound team. There certainly is plenty of logic to this system in a pass-happy league.
I prefer to pick who I think really is the best and most valuable player in the league. Why? Because I can.
I think the MVP should be the League's chief statistician. Without him, no one would know how good anyone really is.
But can Rodgers win with it being a close vote or when he wasn't the frontrunner?
The 2nd or third best QB is more valuable than any other player IMO. It's been that way for many, many years. I'd always give it to a Qb until something drastic changes in the NFL.
I believe at some point if not for the balance of the season that Aaron Rodgers was a (if not the) front runner.
Recall what the talk was and NFL MVP before Tom Brady and the New England Patriots arrived in Green Bay?
Wasn't that at least partially billed as the battle between leading candidates?
Well now this all sounds like the Heismann vote, and we will next be determining which regions will vote which way (Southwest for Romo/Watt, Midwest for Rodgers, East for Brady, West for Merlin Olson). Which means this is all a crock of crap.
Change it to the MOP for Pete Rozelle's sake.