Except we were on D at that point.
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And I didn't say there was. It is a possibility that is all I am mentioning it for.
If the ref says it is during the play and the play clock is running already what can MM do? What does screaming at the ref do to help the team? The ref wasn't going to change his mind and I am sure had already given MM some sort of explanation of the penalty.
Matthews fined $22K for his hit on Wilson (which I still maintain was clearly legal) and caused the Guard on the Seachickens to be fined $8K.
Net loss for him and Packers still.
OK you've arrived and I assume your done with your smoke screen on this one.
The penalty 'in fact' was called and then declined!!
Where is Mike McCarthy on this one? Talking to the Officials about it or planning on the next offensive play or sucking air? Any query in such direction is a smoke screen. It doesn't matter what he did as much as what he didn't do or accomplish for his team on that play.
Mike McCarthy's job is to ensure that there is no way that penalty isn't enforced and Seattle pushed back deeper in their end of the field.
Two plays later Seattle has moved the ball from their 41 yard line (not their 25) down to the Packers 19 and have a first down.
Two ineffective Marshawn Lynch runs (1 yard and -1 yard) and a Russell Wilson incompleted pass and....
Pete Carroll and holder Jon Ryan burn the Packers 'Big time' on the FG fake. The start of something big.
A comeback !
That whole thing is certainly due in part to Mike McCarthy not doing his job by ensuring that Unneccessariy Roughness penalty called on J. R. Sweezy.
I thought the Matthews hit was legal too, coming in from the side. BUT, the penalty didn't bother me in real time either. He got to put a nice like on the opposing team's QB. Chances are Wilson felt that right up until he started throwing TDs against a vacated secondary in the last 2 minutes.
The call was "unnecessary roughness." I remember being a little confused by vagueness.
It is not unusual for refs to conference and pick up flags or otherwise alter calls - at least before the call is announced over PA. This call was never announced until AFTER McCarthy chose to decline penalty. And it happened VERY quickly. MM could have slowed that train down, forced a conference to review timing. He fucked up - or his staff did by not bringing wrong call to boss's attention.
It'd be interesting to hear the conversation between the official and MM.
On that sack by Clay Matthews a flag is thrown.
Troy Aikman is impressed with Clay Matthews movement to pursue Russell Wilson and make that SACK.
Personal comment:
That clutch play by CM III caused an important set back against Seattle. The Seattle offense was moving the ball very well from their own 22 yard line to the Green Bay 39 yard line in four plays. That sack came following a Seattle False Start.
The game announcer announced " Personal Foul Offense Number 64 ... the penalty is declined...the result of the play is ... second down."
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ussell-wilson/
Read the last two paragraphs.
Why would you want him to accept the penalty, to make the Packers chances worse?
1. Given how the play was called McCarthy had a choice (play starts as 1st and 15 from the GB 44)
. . a. Take the sack, 2nd down and 30 from the Seattle 41
. . b. Take the penalty and make it 1st and 30 from the Seattle 41
What do he supposed to do?
Also, take note:
2. We have established despite earlier complaints that McCarthy was aware of the penalty and had to communicate to the refs.
3. We have also established McCarthy wasn't selecting the next play since the Packers were on Defense.
Read the comments. Jeez - I knew Seahawks were fair weather fans - but calling for cheap shot counterpunches makes them a bunch of pussies.
Yes, it was an illegal hit and he got both penalized and fined. Agreed that after the hit on Romo, that CM3's image isn't gaining any momentum.
I'm more pissed that Clay was gassed in the 4th Q and that played into the eventual loss. Lack of conditioning in NFCC? Always seems to be injured. For all the hype and plays he does make, I'm not sure the Packers are getting 110% value from his contract.
Was a bad penalty. Matthews blocked into Wilson's chest. By definition, it's not a penalty. Should not have been flagged and should not have been fined. Rediculous.
If the refs and Seahawks don't want Wilson to get hammered after a turnover, he should take a knee and sit out the rest of the play. Bullshit that they fabricate shit like this.
Oh yeah. Now that you say that, I may have wondered if that was the case when I saw the replay.
I do think it's unfortunate when a player slides into a blow like that. Clay wasn't going for the head, but Wilson is close to being on his knees at the point of contact. Still a technical penalty, but I don't have to like it.
And if Wilson is no longer the QB (i.e. after he throws the INT, he's just a defender like anyone else), does he still get that protection?
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201501...yze=playbyplay
1-15-GB 44 (8:02) 3-R.Wilson sacked at SEA 41 for -15 yards (52-C.Matthews). Penalty on SEA-64-J.Sweezy, Unnecessary Roughness, declined.
Clearly Clay Matthews made the clean sack at the Seattle 41 yard line.
Then Seattle Guard J. Sweezy roughed Clay Matthews. That was more than a bang bang play.
I want Mike McCarthy to fight for what was correct. The results of the Unnecessary Roughness Penalty tacked on to where the ball was after the sack or the Seattle 41 yard line.
I want MM to ensure the officials place the ball at the Seattle 26 yard line.
I want the next play for Seattle to be a 2nd and 23.
2-23-SEA 26 (7:34)
Instead we got this interpretation of what happened after a clean sack at the Seattle 41 and then a clear (Unnecessary Roughness / Personal Foul ...'Pick One') Penalty.
We got the results of that:
2-30-SEA 41 (7:34) (Shotgun) 24-M.Lynch left tackle to GB 48 for 11 yards (42-M.Burnett).
3-19-GB 48 (6:51) (Shotgun) 3-R.Wilson pass deep right to 89-D.Baldwin to GB 19 for 29 yards (52-C.Matthews). Penalty on GB-52-C.Matthews, Illegal Use of Hands, declined.
I agree, but in real time, it sure looks like Wilson got knocked in the head. And it doesn't have to be helmet to helmet to get the call in a blindside block' as it was called. Still, the call is subject to some interpretation, depending on angle of contact etc. It was called because it was the QB and it looked severe. At the time I thought it was legal, but a bit of a cheap shot. Still, it would have been worth the penalty if Matthews knocks him from the game.
Rule:
Article 1 A player of either team may block (obstruct or impede) an opponent at any time, provided that the act is not:
(p) illegal blindside block
Article 9 It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture.
(a) Players in a defenseless posture are:
(8) A player who receives a “blindside” block when the blocker is moving toward his own endline and
approaches the opponent from behind or from the side.
(b) Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is:
(1) Forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him; and
(2) Lowering the head and making forcible contact with the top/crown or forehead/”hairline” parts of the helmet against any part of the defenseless player’s body.
Note: The provisions of (2) do not prohibit incidental contact by the mask or helmet in the course of a conventional tackle on an opponent.