you're gonna rip on me for reading lindy's, yet you're gonna listen to mel kiper? i'd rather listen to scouting reports from my dog then listen to mel
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I think part of the reaction to Damarious Randall is that his name is not Stephone Anthony, which many were expecting, the way things fell. Even worse for some, he was the very next pick to the Saints. Is that fair?
CB was a big need, and this guy gives them some flexibility. They can use him as the slot corner, or take MB or HaHa out and use him in the Woodson role (might be a bit much to ask in his first year). Combine with Clay moving in and out and you have a recipe for confusing the offense. Or a recipe for confusing themselves when there are 'communications breakdowns'.
I won't say I love this pick, but I certainly don't hate it.
i think part of the reaction was that he was announced as a safety when there were better safeties on the board in many peoples mind, and we didn't need a safety.
then it came out he would be a CB, even though he hasn't played there in two years, so he will not only have to make the jump to the nfl, but also relearn the position, not to mention, there were still good cb's on the board ranked highly, who already know how to play the position
No. I don't listen to Mel. I'm just saying there are people (like Bob McGinn and Mel Kiper, among others) that had the dude going higher than our pick. Most had him top 40. I think the pick was a surprise to many (including myself) because the dude had "Safety" next to his name. It makes more sense thinking of the Randall as a corner.
BTW, as bad as Kiper is, he's better than Lindy's. Lindy's claim to fame is being the first one to get their magazine on the market. Makes their stuff outdated junk, but many of us were starving for any kind of info in the offseasons back in the day, so we'd buy Lindy's.
Did any of you ever subscribe to the Packer Report when Ray Nitschke was the editor? In those dark days of the late 70's and very early 80's you'd find out such things as the Packers decided to take Rich Campbell instead of a future hall of famer in Ronnie Lott. Good times!
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I'm gonna give The Randall The Benefit of The Doubt until they start making him wear boxing gloves in practice.
When back here in Wisconsin I just bought it off the rack, but when I was overseas in the Navy and living out of state I subscribed to it.
It was always the highlight of mail call if I got a PR in... there were several Packer fans on the ship and I was the only one with subscription, so I was a popular guy when each issue would arrive.
This was at a time well before cell phones - we sometimes didn't get sports scores for a day or two afterward. Just depended on message traffic - if there wasn't much going on we'd get the news and sports sent to us, but if we were involved in wargames or there was some sort of heightened alert, we might not get sports info for days at a time.
I've watched quite a few videos of him since last night, and did not see him "escorting" receivers out of bounds any significant number of times. All DBs use the sidelines to make tackles when near it. Why shouldn't they?
I did see a guy who missed a few tackles, but at least he missed while actually trying to make a tackle. I've seen a lot of worse efforts from Tramon Williams waiving at ball carries, or running side by side with them for 10 yards while hand fighting with them. Sadly, in today's NFL, CBs are no longer paid because of their tackling ability.
Because the effort appears to be there, I think he can improve at tackling
alright, i watched the rest of those videos, and although he looks "ok", at no point did i think i was watching a must have first round player
and it can't be overlooked that we just went from picking from all the ILBs to probably hoping we get at least 1 left over after everyone else is done picking through them, just to draft this guy. so he damn well better turn out to be wood jr, or else this will go down as a massive fail for TT in my eyes
has anyone ele mentioned that he's added 20 pounds since the college season ended?
so bigger, but maybe slower
QFT. They're terrible. Doesn't necessarily mean they're wrong here, of course.
Yeah, they took the best player on their board (at a premium position) instead of reaching in the secondary. If Bud Dupree were there at 30, I imagine Green Bay would have picked him, also.
What I've heard is that New England also had D. Randall rated above M. Brown on their board.
I'm just waiting for wist to come out and say that it doesn't matter how good The Randall is, dunderdummy won't use him right anyways.
I read he put on the weight before his senior season. Which is correct?
Eat your heart out, boys. This from Rotoworld:
Quote:
Saints coach Sean Payton envisions No. 31 overall ILB Stephone Anthony at Mike linebacker.
"We like the makeup, his size, his flexibility, position flexibility, I think he can play either inside position," Payton said. "I think he is probably most suited to play Mike, so he has that body type." Mike was Anthony's college position, and where he'll almost certainly start come Week 1. A sure tackler with plus athleticism, Anthony could play all three downs.
Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune
May 1 - 1:07 AM
yup, and we got a guy who "will be a contributor on special teams right away"
I like the kid's ball skills. Those are intangibles that you can't teach. I wish he was a little taller, but he's not small. I question if he can be a true CB in the NFL. Picking at the end of the 1st round is always a big crap shoot. I didn't really see anyone else who I thought was going to be a sure fire starter in year one still on the board. Thompson has had a rather good track record in spotting secondary talent, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until I see the kid in camp.
Everything Wist is saying about Randall is how I feel about Sam Shields.
Randall's inexperience doesn't bug me. If this staff can teach an undrafted guy with a year of experience and a learning disability to play corner its foolish to bet against Randall. Ready your crow hole Wist.
I know some of these have been mentioned, but I went on line to list as many evaluations as I could. Here goes:
NFL. Com:
Maycock - #30 of his top 100, mocked him being draft at #20.
Brandt - #35 of his top 40 list.
Jeremiah – not included in his top 50.
Brooks – mocked at #29. Ranked as a “Red Chip Prospect” (contribute immediately, starter by end of the year).
Zierlein & Reuter – mocked at #40.
National Football Post - #85 on their "Big Board".
Banks (Sports Illustrated) - mocked at #29
Walter Football - mocked at #38.
Rang (CBS Sports) - #29
Matt Miner (Bleacher Report) - mocked at #29
Schrager (Fox Sports) - mocked at #27
McGinn (JSO) - mocked at #20, ranked as the #2 safety available.
Packer Report @PackerReport 15m15 minutes ago
Seale on Damarious Randall: Baseball player, good hands, slot, free safety
Did they give him number 36? He is only a corner because he they have good safety depth. He will play center field by the end of the season.
Can't believe anyone really believes the kid should have gone that high... sounds like someone started a misdirection campaign that this kid was a player, and people began to believe the ruse.
Seriously, just put on the game tape of the guy... he couldn't tackle your grandmother. Soft, softer, and please don't hurt me type of player. The more I watched of the guy, the more I thought I was alone in the Twilight Zone - wondering, am I the only one who is seeing this??
Apparently I am the only one who is seeing it, b/c what I saw of Randall should have him flipping burgers at McDonalds before he belongs on an NFL roster.
I'm sure he'd be All-World in a flag football league - but the NFL aint that.