Bosa will be a dud.
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Bosa will be a dud.
I doubt it. Bosa will be a solid, but unspectacular player, and play for like 10 years before retiring to anonymity.
PFT reporting still nothing happening, no talks or anything. This seems like such a lose-lose situation if they don't come to an agreement SOON. I think the team has more leverage because if both stand firm and he loses the season, he never gets the money back. The amount of egg on the GM's face for squandering a top 5 pick is not insignificant either though.
Gota love that they're selling his jersey at the NFL store! Didn't know they'd assigned him a number...
http://nflshop.frgimages.com/FFImage...full.jpg&w=400
Well they are using the heavy canon today. Chargers threatening to withdraw offer in PR statement about how wonderful his contract is. Bosa's agent is fighting back on Twitter.
San Diego Chargers @Chargers
Statement from the San Diego Chargers on defensive end Joey Bosa.
THERE ARE TWO DEAD GIVEAWAYS THAT THE CHARGERS ARE BULLSHITTING YOU IN THIS STATEMENT. SEE IF YOU AGREE.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqpLoo0UsAAdRoA.jpg:large
Andrew Brandt @AndrewBrandt
People, Joey Bosa is not sitting out the year out of spite over some deferred money. The Chargers know that and are leveraging it.
Chris B. Brown @smartfootball 46m46 minutes ago
Left unsaid is SD is trying to stick Bosa with a set of contractual terms no top 5 pick has agreed to post CBA
Chargers friendly view: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...to-be-charger/
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Their initial offer was to pay Bosa, the third overall pick in the draft, about 60 percent of his signing bonus by Dec. 31 and the rest by mid-March. That was commensurate with what fourth pick Ezekiel Elliott got from the Dallas Cowboys but less upfront cash than what every other top-seven pick received.
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Yes, Ayrault/Bosa has come off the offset language, but that was never going to be in play. Ayrault knew that. And, by the way, just two of this year’s other six top-seven picks do not have offset language.
Bosa's agent: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...presentatives/
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We will say, that it is ironic that the team now takes issue with the timing of Joey’s arrival, since the Chargers unilaterally decided to remain silent for the first 14 days of training camp instead of replying in a timely fashion to the proposal we made on the eve of training camp on July 28th.
The Union Tribune article says AJ Smith got into these types of battles because he liked to do it. Claims Spanos is not of that tradition.
Does anyone know why the Mannings told the Chargers not to draft Eli?
chargers are a joke
He should have pulled an Eli. I don't know why anyone would want to go play for those shit bag clowns
Well, JJ Watt is the best defender is the league, so I highly doubt Joey Bosa will turn out to be that. Their combine performance was very similar. They were both dominant players in college. I really like Joey Bosa and would take him in a second. Put a little weight on him and you have a poor man's JJ Watt at the 3-4 DE.
For someone that has not even stepped onto a pro TC field , there sure is a lot of activity . The last time I saw so many guys jaws drop , Kathy Ireland was on the cover of Sports Illustrated .
Reported that he signed today.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...gers/89549298/
Sure seems that way, doesn't it? Bosa is likely out this week due to a hamstring problem:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...a-plays-week-1
.... and the hamstring continues to keep him on the sideline.
Bosa has been declared out for week 2, and they are saying it is doubtful he will practice the upcoming week, so is unlikely to play next week.
He has yet to even practice in pads.
Wow. Not a good way to start a career.
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 6h6 hours ago
Patriots TE Rob Gronkowski will not play today vs. Dolphins due to hamstring injury, per source. http://es.pn/2cmxhmz
Stupid contract holdouts.
Has all this hammy talk jinxed the Pack? :)
Burnett caught it from Matthews. It is highly contagious.
Looking pretty damn dominant tonight. This young man is going to be one heck of a player.
I would be surprised if he wasn't a multi-time pro bowler based on how dominant he was in college. He was the straw that stirred the drink for OSU - the best player on a star studded team.
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/11/16/n...gers-joey-bosa
I'm not the only one saying poor mans JJ Watt. This guy is going to be great if he keeps going on this path.
Joey Bosa was hands down, unquestionably the best rookie in football this year. Joe Thomas is on record as saying is a premier pass rusher and the best rookie he's ever played against.
This one was simple. Joey Bosa will be the 2nd best 3-4 DE in the league in a year or two. I kind of have to laugh at this thread. I only watched OSU a handful of times at the most but it was clear he was the best player... he was double or triple teamed often and he was STILL a beast!
I kind of have to laugh at you. You don't even understand what this thread was about.
The subject of this thread was the contract controversy that kept Bosa out of camp. It had nothing to do with his talent. At most, side issues were that rookies who miss camp often seem to be set back in their development, and players who miss camp because of contract disputes often seem to have injury issues. (I say "seem" because we have no data to substantiate impressions about either issue.) The vast majority of the posts have been on topic. You were the one who wanted to divert the topic to a discussion about Bosa's talent. Most of the posts ignored you.
Now you come back and demean the purpose of the thread because Bosa has had a good year even after double-clutching at the start???? Why, has the contract issue changed, or been resolved with respect to the next draft class?
The thread has always been more about the basic contract issue than it ever was about a discussion of the player's talent. For the most part, the specific player was irrelevant to the issue.
Except for that pesky Ezekiel Elliot, you know, the rookie who's leading the league in rushing by a rather hefty amount. Oh yeah, and his rookie teammate, Prescott who is 3rd in the league in QB rating. Don't forget OL Jack Conklin who is one of the best T in the NFL (according to PFF). So other than those 3, I agree that Joey Bosa was hands down the best rookie in football this year.
Yup, he won't even win Rookie of the Year.
Sorry Patty, but perhaps you should review the off-topic posts discussing his potential, etc on page 1, 2 and 3 of this thread. There are numerous posts saying he'll be a bust, that he's selfish, that he's gonna be an average at best player, etc. Not ALL threads stay 100% on topic.
I don't need to review anything. I acknowledged there were a few such posts, as I said the following:
Perhaps you should review the reason the thread was started, and what the majority of the posts are about. Do you dispute that the vast majority of posts are on topic, in spite of your effort to take it another direction?Quote:
Originally Posted by patler
....and now you come here and demean the thread in general.
Overall, I would put the claim that he is UNQUESTIONABLY the best rookie in football this year as slightly more laughable than this thread.
That isn't to say that Bosa isn't worthy of being in the argument...but he's not head and shoulders above all other rookies.
Since, as Patler pointed out, this thread's been mucked up, I'm going to go full bore and axe how that other safety that the Packers could've chosen instead of Clinton-Dix (the guy from Louisville, the heavy hitter) is doing so far in the NFL?
Lots of fans on this very site were pissed that Ted went for the "soft" pick once again, so I wonder how the tough guy is doing.
I believe you mean Calvin Pryor with the J-E-T-S. Was taken a few picks before Dix was.
All Pryor can do is help stop the run, has a whopping 2 INTs in nearly 3 seasons, was graded by Pro Football Focus as the 4th worst Safety in the league at the midway point last season.
This year it doesn't sound too good either. There's this gem from PFF about the Jets week 15 matchup against the Dolphins:
Calvin Pryor a liability. Pryor, the Jets former first-round safety was an absolute mess with his pursuit angles against the shifty Dolphins receivers. He started by overrunning a dig route to DeVante Parker on a key third down on the Dolphins first scoring drive. Then he fell on his face on yet another route coming across this middle, this time from Jarvis Landry, on a 31-yard catch and run on the Dolphins first scoring drive in the third quarter. Pryor capped it off by being unable to chase down Landry again running a slant across his face when he was playing middle of the field safety.
Pryor is not all that great. He's pretty much a JAG.
Ted likes soft players!
Where is Vince Young lately. That guy has "it".