Maybe he's just not a very good WR?Quote:
Originally Posted by oldbutnotdeadyet
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Maybe he's just not a very good WR?Quote:
Originally Posted by oldbutnotdeadyet
Janis = Schroeder v2.0
Schroeder averaged 45 receptions and 687 yards per season in 5 years with Packers.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Cumby
I would be elated if Janis could come even close to that. Schroeder was nothing but average and Janis is worse.
So more like Schroeder v0.25Quote:
Originally Posted by Teamcheez1
more like .025
No, you can be smart but not game aware in a sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldbutnotdeadyet
Janis has likely always physically dominated his opponents and so the small bits of gamesmanship and chiseling an edge outside the rules are lost on him.
So if you negate the physical edge, he doesn't know how to compete. Like Larry Bird knowing how to shoot lights out but unable to draw a foul on contact after a head and shoulder fake.
Just leaves him in a hole. He might be smart enough to be too stubborn to learn the lesson.
He has been a puzzle to me. I think with Nick Perry you could see that the guy, while frustrating to watch, was learning but always hurt. Always banged up. I mean, yes, it's a bit of a surprise that he's healthy and putting it all together - apparently he's got more than a bull rush now - but on the whole, you could see the guy's story was one of injury as much as anything. I still think, myself, that maybe Sherrod would've been the same story had he not wrecked his leg or knee or whatever it was.
But Janis - wow, he's still making the same mistakes he made two years ago. And the ole blocks are inexplicable - he's a big guy. He may be the classic looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane guy. It may be that this is simply who he is. A great ST player who can hang around the NFL for awhile, but a guy whose best route is the Hail Mary. If the Packers cut him, he'll get picked up in a heartbeat by some team, and some coach who knows that he's the one who can unlock all those skills.
Yeah Fritz, you got it.
The guy is still green, in his 3rd year.
His route tree looks like a flag pole.
The deep slant and the Hail Mary, that's about it.
You'd think he'd pick up something from osmosis.
He's had years of practice, mini and regular camp, film study & he still doesn't know the basics, let alone any tricks.
I saw a scouting report on him post draft. it said the reason he went to a smaller program was none of the big schools thought he'd catch on to their program 'til his senior season, if that. He's super slow learner and a mistake repeater, that guy.
Very good information I wasn't aware of. Great post.Quote:
Originally Posted by KYPack
What's with the hate for my dawg, J-Jan, the hippest lad outta Detriot since Em?
Janis is a diamond in the rough, and diamonds don't form overnight. Dude ain't Greg Jennings when it comes to running routes, but he knows how to get open. Rodgers just gotta throw Janis the rock, especially when Janis is a-flyin'.
This just hit the wire today, but not sure if its referencing Cowboys or Bears game.
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So he needs some time and opportunities. Adams has had more chances by far than Janis, yet they keep him around.Quote:
Originally Posted by KYPack
He can't do it in practice either. Its kinda a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rutnstrut
Adams routinely is praised for the work he does in practice.
How many years did the Vikings wait for Patterson to come around, seems like they have been working with him for years, he looked pretty good today, maybe we need to have the same patience with Janis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zool
I'd like to see MM go back to multiple packages, multiple personnel groupings, all of that. Make the defense adjust. Our guys aren't beating their guys one-on-one, and having Nelson back has not changed that. So why not go back to the days of using your depth? The Packers do have some of that.
They are one year apart.Quote:
Originally Posted by deake
They have the last two games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
Didn't seem like it against Dallas. More like that against the Gints. Come on, Mikey! Packages! Sub-packages! Personnel groupings! Mix-and-match! Shuffle!
Lucy's injury hurt the substitutions versus the Giants. Saw the backups versus Bears but formations remained the same.
Zimmerman was threatening to cut Patterson in camp this year. Maybe that lit a fire. Patterson was a first rounder who is a very good KR.Quote:
Originally Posted by deake
Apples and oranges. Adams flashed his rookie year and was hurt year two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rutnstrut
Kind of hard to post that after he sets an all time record at Lambeau with 10+ catches, 100+ yards and 2+ TDs?
If they keep giving the fraud chances as they do, eventually shit will stick once in a while. It doesn't mean he's any good.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderDan
The Saginaw Stooge is still waiting for a breakout game. Maybe one where he actually runs his entire route every play would be a good start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rutnstrut
Was this the same calf he injured in 2014? Perhaps it was just dehydration. I get those at times if I'm not drinking enough water.Quote:
Originally Posted by pbmax
Is Abby hurt right now? I've been out of town all week without access to the internet so I'm now catching up with all the news...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig
I didn't see the entire game Thursday night but if AR is throwing short passe and is taking what the defense is giving him I'm all for it!Quote:
Originally Posted by beveaux1
The Vikes almost had to be patient with Patterson seeing he was a 1st round pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by deake
I don't remember which he grabbed. But it was definitely a cramp and he had to stretch it out to walk. It grabbed him good. Didn't look too affected by it after he stretched. Question now is whether he can avoid re-inuring it and making it worse. A couple weeks after the first injury, he made it much worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugger
Edited for clarity of thought, typos, auto correct and aphasia.
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Originally Posted by Pugger
Abby hurt his leg and I think went on IR this week. Banjo too. He got re-injured versus the Bears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugger
They are doing OK with short throws, but it was either Monty or Cobb out of backfield OR a tightly contested throw in man coverage.
Problem is that they are getting very little deep. So they get nothing easy and do not flip field position often. They have never been good at the paper cut pass offense. lack of RBs not helping.
The good thing is that Rodgers has been getting closer to hitting the deep stuff.
The Saginaw Stooge? Now that is some funny shit right there!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zool