I suspect it is a lack of contact/padded practices.
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There seems to be a consensus in here that the season is down the drain. Am I the only one in here that doesn't buy that? We damn near came back and beat a fairly decent team at their place without Rodgers and with a ton of other injuries. If damn McCarthy had gone for it on 4th and 1 (or not just run it into the line on 2nd and 3rd and 1), and if Montgomery had remembered he wasn't still in college and secured the ball and crawled in instead of stretching and losing control - either of those things or both, we might even have won that game.
Hundley may not be Rodgers, but he was decent today, and he's only gonna get better. And our schedule was front loaded - if it hadn't been for the injury, the Packers would have literally been favored to run the table. They still should beat most of the teams the rest of the way ....... and on top of all that, there is some chance - 50/50? more? less? that Aaron Rodgers comes back in 6 or 7 or 8 weeks. or whenever.
I'm still betting we make the playoffs, and if we do that with Rodgers back healthy, the sky is still the limit. Somebody ought to start a poll - who's a believer and who isn't.
If Bulaga and Bahk can be back next week and Hundley getting all the reps we will be able to tell if Brett can keep us afloat until Rodgers returns. It will help to get Brooks, Burnett and King back too.
Is there a chance Rodgers has surgery on that collarbone?
I don't believe in any systematic side-taking in officiating in the NFL. I also believe that over the course of a season, calls even out.
It just seemed today that the net benefit of missed calls fell to the Vikings and it was magnified due to the injury to Rodgers.
I believe Barr saw an opportunity to get a big hit on a QB and took it. Rodgers was out of the pocket so he was fair game. I don't know if Barr was trying to injure Rodgers but every defender on every team will take a legal shot on a QB, especially one as good as Rodgers is. If he can take the QB either out or off his game the chances of his team winning go up substantially. Don't be surprised if this kind of hit is addressed this offseason. The league doesn't like to see their marquis QBs out. Who - other than Packers and Lions fans - is gonna be eager to tune in to see a Hundley led Packers squad square off against Detroit on Monday night in a couple of weeks?
Okay, so we've seen quarterbacks go down against the Packers, and we've seen their backups almost pull off an upset (considering it was the backup). Why couldn't the Packers' backup do the same thing?
And Damn! Did the Packers even have any substitutes still on the bench? It seemed half the team was out due to injury by the end of the game (and yes, that probably answers the first question--two backup guards playing both tackle positions against the speedy rushers of the Vikings).
It'd be easy to rag on Capers for the defense, but if one more DB went down, Janis would have been back playing safety.
Yet, when Stubby did call a pass play, usually on 3rd down, he had Hundley dropping back four or five steps before getting rid of the ball. Plus, Hundley had opportunities to run and didn't, which leads me to believe he was told not to. I understand protecting your last QB but c'mon, let him play. That kind of stuff has to change next week or it's going to be a long season.
What is this kind of hit? Are we going to make tackling the QB illegal? Maybe I saw it differently than others, but there was nothing particularly violent about the tackle, wide receivers are brought down like that every play. I think Rodgers was mad that it was a late hit, but looking at replay, it wasn't late. Close - if the guy had another half second and extra step it woulda been a flag.
There is no rule change that can fix this other than eliminating tackling the QB. Maybe that will happen - seriously. It could be two-hand-touch for the passer.
When Rodgers got hurt, we had the top five interior O Linemen in the game, right? And predictably, they played like crap, same as the replacements in previous weeks, same as who we had out there the rest of the game. As great as Aaron Rodgers has been mobility-wise - performing so great even when rushed on virtually every pass play, you could say an injury like this was inevitable because of our horribly poor O Line - thank you Ted Thompson for that.
Regarding the hit, it was dirty but probably not illegal (the only way is if it was considered late, and hits that late happen all the time). My first reaction was kill the bastard who did it, but undoubtedly every team we play salivates for a chance to take out what basically is the only reason the Packers are on top - thanks to the mediocre supporting cast Ted Thompson gave the team. If the shoe was on the other foot - our D player similarly taking out the other team's QB, I'd be cheering, as would all but a few bleeding hearts in here.
i would like to know just what in the hell the team saw on the x-rays to come out and say he could be done for the year.
collar bone should take 6-8 weeks to heal, including the bye week, we have 11 weeks left in the regular season
if brett #2 can manage 2 or 3 wins over the next 7 games, we should be in the playoff hunt when a-rod is healthy
so why come out and say he might be done for the year? is it the overly cautious staff being overly cautious. or is the injury worse then we think
Never underestimate the chances that stupidity explains most of the work in the world. That might be the most uncharitable reading of whatever prognosis they had yesterday.
Why they released any kind of timeline is a great question and probably gets someone a pay cut.
Either that or the team Docs KNOW he is done with full collarbone break.
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 52m52 minutes ago
#Packers QB Aaron Rodgers (collarbone) will have tests to determine the next course of action. Chance he returns late, but just a chance.
What was dirty? Did he punch Arod in the nuts? A hard hit is not dirty. This was not even a dramatic hit. The only "dirty" thing is you are mad that the Packer QB got hurt.
If Arod hadn't been injured, nobody would even have noticed this tackle.
Arod is not a big, rugged guy. Not sure that matters. But I was shocked that he broke a bone from that contact with ground. Probably regular-sized shoulder pads would have saved him. QBs have little protection there.
It was the extended arm that got him. It gave leverage to hit that pressured his collarbone (Patler mentioned this elsewhere). This was a hit he should have taken in a tuck and roll position. All hindsight though.
Frankly, the kid is a genius for being this healthy this far along in his career given how much time he spends out of the pocket and waiting to throw.
"tuck and roll" is damn good advice for old people walking in icy conditions. It;s the panic, attempt to break your fall that gets you.
I've had falls and bicycle spills and always come out ok. Guess as former wrassler my body knows to not tense up, just roll with it. Sorta like the old joke:
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QBs are typically tackled by linemen and LBs. WRs are typically tackled by defensive backs. WR are typically moving faster and aren't usually landed on like QBs standing in the pocket or looking downfield. Even so you may have noticed Packer WR still get hurt with lighter hit than Rodgers took.
The tackle wasn't all the violent it was just a hard hit with a full body landing on Rodgers with extended arm.
Of course we wouldn't be making that big of deal if he hadn't got hurt. But every time a QB - or anyone else - takes a hit like that there's a chance for injury.
Yes..the hit was simply normal.Your correct without the injury there would be little made of Minnesota Vikings linebacker Anthony Barr's contact with ARod.
It's almost shocking the damage that was caused by his fall, but the forces from the right hand's contact with the field surface and on and up the right arm caused the collarbone to snap. With no hand down ARod more than likely would have bounced up and merely shrugged those shoulders as we've seen him do so often.
It's just one of those freaky things and ARod. He's one heck of a fine athlete and as his body is constructed an exceptional QB with outstanding arm strength to make the long throw; the legs and speed to run very well.
Is he a rugged guy? It hasn't seemed so to me that he is 'rugged', watching him since he was drafted. Doesn't anyone remember him getting injured falling off the end of a players bench?
Yes ARod has to run out of the QB Pocket often and maybe way to much but that is his style of playing QB and extending the play.His outstanding athleticism works for him and that. He might be an athletic Genius but given his body and vulnerability to injury.
He has been very fortunate or lucky not to be more often injured. We'll see that disappear as his career extends. As Packer fans we know just how much and Packer success rides on Aaron Rodgers being active for games. For by far the most Top Level Teams in NFL History; it's the same and the starting QB position.
Yesterday LUCK disappeared for Aaron Rodgers, the Green Bay Packers and Packer Nation.We witnessed a tragedy as Packer fans. Aaron Rodgers suffered far far more.
The impact of this injury will in all reality be negatively HUGE. The negative impact extending beyond the 2017-18 Season and all Aaron Rodgers is. Nothing short of a NFL Rule change to: You cannot hit a QB will remove the impact of Bad Luck on Aaron Rodgers and thus Green Bay Packers good fortunes.
It still remains:
GO PACK GO !
Dana Litman is still VERY angry that Packer fans are blaming Barr and not recognizing their own complicity. He doesn't want to hear about kindness. Or flags. Or fines.
He wants you to yield and wallow in your hypocrisy! And Wilde is here to confess.
Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde
Rodgers tells a great story of @Tommieharris90 holding him up to save him from a major knee injury in game vs. Bears. Always respected that. https://twitter.com/BumpinFresh/stat...41346826645505 …
Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 14h14 hours ago
No idea what Barr was thinking, not accusing him of anything. Just giving an example of a player protecting another instead of injuring him.
Dana Litman @DanaLitman
Kind of like when Clay Matthews unnecessarily launched himself at Kaepernick when he was out of bounds...
Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 14h14 hours ago
Or when Matthews blindsided R.Wilson in the head after an INT in '14 NFCCG. Is this how we debate things? "But they did a bad thing too!"
No one is Favre, as evidenced by the guy who was closest to his streak being a defensive end. Manning got close by almost never getting hit and going down early.
But Favre also took bad decision making and risk assumption to new levels in order to stay healthy (on the plus side, he also learned to throw the ball away). He was an entirely different player in the 2000s versus the kid who took kill shot after kill shot in the mid 1990s. No one has completed more passes after taking a concussion mid-play that Favre before year 2000.
Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 41s41 seconds ago
The #Packers have just completed deal to sign practice squad QB Joe Callahan to the 53-man roster. He's Brett Hundley's backup for now.
YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HINT THAT OTHER THINGS ARE IN THE WORKS UNLESS YOU ALSO MAKE A PREDICTION. I THINK REPORTERS ARE DELUDING THEMSELVES HERE, BUT MAYBE THEY KNOW SOMETHING THAT HASN'T LEAKED YET.
Clean hit, Charlie took less than two steps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr7UcrLLybo
he always capitalizes his response/comments on tweets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amrTOsYa4sA
Mae and I both agreed on this:
What happened to Aaron Rodgers was going to happen sooner or later this Season as he was again being punished too often. No NFL Team has suffered more QB SACKS this Season than The Green Bay Packers (tied with Detroit)
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...2&d-447263-n=1
I need some more information on if Rodgers is coming back or not. All I heard yesterday was that Rodgers will miss the remainder of the season (or was he "likely" to miss the rest of the season). If Rodgers is done, the season is over. If he can come back in 8 weeks, I'm on board. Perhaps we can go 3-4 in his absence and be 7-6 needing to win out with Rodgers.
STOP THE HAMMERING!! NSFW or elsewhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cyrvJ_wJSI