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I think most people saw what Packer coaches saw: that their starting dbs were not up to the task. That's why they pulled Rollins and Randall for King. Given the fact that R&R were so bad they had to be pulled, and House was slow, it seems fruitless to make WR comparisons based on this game alone.
You don't need fantasy scores to know that R&R have been questionable going back. Last year they had injuries as excuse, this year....?
I need to find a new football guru. I will follow Woody for a while, see how that goes.
Say it again?
I agree Baranczyk makes it a point worth debating. Sanu had a good game. But in part that is by design as the Packers would rather Sanu catch all the balls rather than Jones.
Average value is a very rough measure of player success. Its partially dependent on stats specific to a position, but also takes into account things like postseason recognition. Its not the end all of the argument. But Sanu has been underused compared to the other two. If he is a talent on par with them, his teams haven't figured it out yet.
Ah, when an entertainment comes down to stats and computer models, it alienates more people than it attracts. It becomes information gathering.
I tried a fantasy league with a sport I follow closely (college wrestling.) I like to win. It distracts from appreciation of the sport, you worry too much about your allegiance to your fantasy team.
It's like the Analog Kid versus the Digital Man in here.
For the farm boys:
rough trade: violent, often brutal sex acts, or a person, usually a male prostitute, who looks like they participate in such acts.
Hold on. Doesn't rough trade mean the (mostly) straight johns that male prostitutes service in certain areas? (Sailors and the lot)
Of course, my exposure to this term is incidental, and involves G. Gordon Liddy in a non-Watergate role.
Here's a magazine related to the genre:
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/321740...-1/s-l1000.jpg
I do think from Rutnstrut's description above he would fit right in. Flannel shirt, hairy chest.....
I think "rough trade" is like "bear", but with a bit of danger/violence to it.
I had some gay friends who called me "rough trade", I somehow knew what they were joking about. Actually, I'm not very tough and would be more of a bear.
I can't believe G. Gordon would be misleading.
And then the thread really went off the rails...
Trying to lift train back onto track, I say the early-third year returns on the draft that produced Randall and Rollins in rounds one and two are not good.
Ted appears to have shat the bed.
It could be, but I'd bet that he simply has failed to develop other skills, and more time starting has exposed the holes in his game.
Or, there are times in that secondary where the receiver turns to run an interior route and the CB reacts as though he's been shot at and backs off. The middle of the field coverage scheme (when to follow, when to pass off or drift off or deep) still evades them I think. I might be overreacting to replays showing it at least twice this season but its just weird. Pump fakes maybe?
^ Nice trash TV reference.
I think its mostly technique and goes mainly to the lack of familiarity of the DBs with zone coverage techniques.
The most baffling coverage of all is the trailing by too far coverage on a crossing route (this is man to man) and the failure to have anyone on the other side of the field to clock the crossing route. This might be skill of receiver avoid the other defenders, but I also think its the effect of threatening to send six pass rushers most downs.
So...(cue Bretsky)...if the Packers had drafted TJ Watt the pass coverage would be better?