That would raise everyone's cap space. Packers still in the twenties for most cap space. Not a lot of room. But more importantly, many others with more stupid money to spend.
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This TO?
https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-conte...ens2.jpg?w=329
That TO was an excellent WR ! Dez Bryant isn't an NFL HOFer Candidate while Terrell Owens certainly is.
From 1998 - 2008 that TO hauled in 127 TD's or an average of 11.54 TD's Season over those 11 Seasons. That's a rate of 1.233 TD's per Game !
That's just EXCELLENT !
Dez Bryant NFL Career 2010-2017 TD's Total equals 73 TD's or an average of 9.125 TD's per Season and 0.646 TD's per Game. Over the course of the last 3 Seasons his TD Production Rate isn't productive producing 'only' 17 TD's in 37 Games played or 0.459 TD's per Game.
I don't want to see Dez Bryant in the Green and Gold.
Math is a little off Woody. TO played 157 games over that timeframe you posted. So 127 TDs over 157 games is .808 TDs/game. Still a real good stretch by a WR though.
The comment by Partial is way off. TO is 44 now, he couldn't even sniff the league at this point.
That's just silly. You don't think Randy Moss or TO could still get deep? 44 is old, sure, but athletes don't just go from premier to nothing over night. They could easily make a roster, but they both have plenty of money that additional traction on the body isn't worth the salary they'd earn.
Regardless, Dorsey built the current team in Kansas City, you know, that team that made the playoffs this season. And there's no such thing as cap hell in this day and age of soaring revenues and titanic TV contracts. Sure, it appears like the Chiefs are currently over the cap at this moment in space-time, but all they have to do is get rid of game manager Alex Smith, and they'll be out of cap hell in no time.
If a 44 year old (former) athlete could make an NFL roster at a skill position today, we would be seeing at least one of them out there. You can slow down the effects of aging on maximal heart rate, VO2max, loss of muscle mass and declining recovery ability, but you cannot stop it. But that aside the idea is just silly. If Owens were to make an NFL roster today he would either be attempting a comeback after seven years of NFL inactivity (and about 14 years past his physical prime) or he would have been on an NFL roster for twenty two years at a skill position, which means he would probably have had at least three career-ending injuries by now and would be on his second set of artificial knees.
Meh, I still think Michael Jordan at 50-something could beat 2/3 of the NBA in one-on-one, and I still think Brett Favre, in the right situation, could sit back and sling the football as well as anyone.
Just look at Brady.
Maybe sustained performance is not there, but I think most of these studs can get the fast twitch firin' up again and make some big plays.
What do yall think about David Irving? Rumors in Dallas are saying the Cowboys may place a 2nd round tender on him. I'd consider our second rounder for him. He's really young and really explosive.
" TO played 157 games over that timeframe you posted. So 127 TDs over 157 games is .808 TDs/game. " Cheesehead Craig
Comment woodbuck27:
Your correct.
I'll add this here as I was interested in when if ever Terrell Owens would make the HOF based on his previous two years of eligibility and negative results; what happened that he did get the approval vote this year?
Here's a Story on that:
https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/2/...-debate-length
Terrell Owens debate was longest of the day for Hall of Fame voters
I wonder what changed people’s minds in year three?
By: David Fucillo@davidfucillo ... Feb 5, 2018, 6:45am PST
This has to be a serious consideration:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_...ican_football)
" ...On March 6, 2017, Irving re-signed with the Cowboys.[11] On May 23, 2017, it was announced that Irving would be suspended four games due to violating the league's performance enhancing drugs policy.[12] His appeal was denied and was officially suspended the first four games of the 2017 season.[13]
Despite missing the first four games because of his suspension, and the final two because of a lingering concussion, Irving still accrued seven sacks on the year.[14] ..."
TO campaigned pretty hard that he was getting different standards applied to him than others. So much was brought up about his antics that were not a measuring stick that was applied to other players. I think he made just enough sense and got other players already in the HOF agreeing with him and stumped for him as well to be in that they convinced enough voters. I also think that the writers like to get in some final dig at the players they didn't like. By keeping them out of the HOF for a year or several years, they get some last bit of pettiness at the player.
Yes I agree and the 'tbe be patient with us as we had to be patient with your impetulant ways in the past' factor and holding TO out until year three of eligibility.
Then there is the possible Point of bringing in Randy Moss as a First Ballot Candidate and any consideration of holding Moss out based on his off field behaviour.
I think it came down to this:
Looking at Terrell Owens and Randy Moss, it became way too obvious that there game production had to place both in the NFL HOF.
When a NFL player has to be seriously considered and game planned for year after year that player has to be seriously considered for the NFL Hall Fame.
Here's a couple of examples of NFL Players excelly in the NFL at 40 Years of age.
http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/careerstats
2017 Season NFL MVP Tom Brady (Born: 8/3/1977)
Did you forget this Guy?
Brett Favre: Born: 10/10/1969
Brett Favre's Stat's 2009 included: 531 Passing attempts and 363 Competitions for a Career BEST 68.4 %
Favre passed for 4202 Yards that Season for a Career BEST 7.9 Yard Average.
He averaged 262.6 Yards/Game or the 3rd Best in his 20 Year NFL Career.
Favre had 33 TD's or Tied for 4th Best in his Career.
Bruce Matthews - Clay's uncle - is another. His brother, Clay Jr. also played to 40 or so, I think, as a LB. You get a few freaks of nature at just about every position who last extra long. Luck has more to do with it than anything else, as even a lot of extremely well conditioned players get hurt bad enough to kill their career or at least greatly diminish their ability.
The Butler cannot do it.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...alcolm-butler/
Last offseason, Justis Mosqueda did the research on Thompson’s tendencies for CheeseheadTV. What he found: The Packers like their cornerbacks to be at least 5-11 (or very close), with a 40-yard dash time of 4.57 or better and a three-cone drill time of 6.87 or better.
Butler is listed at NFL.com at 5-11, but that appears to be a stretching of the truth. His pro day results, provided by NFLDraftScout.com, tell a different story.
Butler was measured at Alabama’s Pro Day in 2014 at a little under 5-10. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.62 seconds and posted a three-cone time of 7.20, both well below Thompson’s athletic standards.
Okay, but Thompson isn't the GM and Capers isn't the DC. Isn't it possible that Gutekunst/Pettine will have different parameters for a CB than Thompson/Capers did? It's hard to say, because I'm not sure how much input Capers had with Thompson, or Pettine has with Gutekunst.
If BG is a Ron/Ted guy, then the Packers are doomed to fart away the rest of Aaron Rodgers' career, same as Ted's last few years. Butler may not be the answer, but we need free agent talent to make up for Ted's last few years - Jimmy Graham for sure and some kind of a solution at Corner.
Why is everybody so hot on Jimmy Graham? He's injury-prone, hates to block, and his great-grandpa just died.
It'd be like signing Jermichael Finley after his injuries.
I wasn't aware Graham is attempting to return from a catastrophic, potentially career-ending injury. And how the fuck is the guy "injury-prone?" Dude missed 5 games in 2015 (a fluke), but played in at least 15 games in each of his 7 other seasons. By comparison, A-Rod has landed on the IR at least 3 times in his career, in addition to dealing with calf problems once - Is Rodgers injury-prone?
I could see Graham reviving his career in GB the way Tony G did in Atlanta. German Shepherd needs to sign Graham. Whatever it takes.