Michael Bennett: Police singled me out, put a gun near my head

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Originally Posted by woodbuck27

I suspect that your more than less 'a Racist'. Being 'White' doesn't give you legitimate insight into what it means to feel as a majority of Blacks and other ethnic people do.

I also suspect that if you made the above statement to Michael Bennett's face he might very well 'kick your ass'. :-)

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I suspect that you don't know me. If you did you would know better. I also suspect that Bennett COULD kick my ass since he is 17 years younger than me, and much larger. Not so sure he WOULD. It would show exceedingly poor judgement on his part.

I also suspect you feel very dis empowered in your everyday life that you feel the need to tell me how weak I am compared to an NFL defensive lineman as if that doesn't put me in the 99.9%

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Originally Posted by bobblehead

Yes, that is what cops do. When they decide to arrest you, they talk forcefully to ensure compliance. They immobilize you with a knee in the back as its the most effective place. They put the cuffs on very tight so you can't slip out. This is known as P.O.S.T. also known as "not abuse".

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No no no !

You skirt the issue and your version, that Michael Bennett had no complaint and excessive abuse.

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Originally Posted by woodbuck27

Stray dogs are treated better than Michael Bennett was by these Policeman.

It is too clear he has a legitimate complaint.

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You have clearly never been forcefully detained by law enforcement.

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Originally Posted by bobblehead

I suspect that you don't know me. If you did you would know better. I also suspect that Bennett COULD kick my ass since he is 17 years younger than me, and much larger. Not so sure he WOULD. It would show exceedingly poor judgement on his part.

I also suspect you feel very dis empowered in your everyday life that you feel the need to tell me how weak I am compared to an NFL defensive lineman as if that doesn't put me in the 99.9%

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The way you Blah Blah Blah ...MB might just have to kick your ass. :-)

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Originally Posted by woodbuck27

No no no !

You skirt the issue and your version, that Michael Bennett had no complaint and excessive abuse.

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If that is excessive abuse (as opposed to allowable abuse) then every officer ever making an arrest is guilty. He has ZERO complaint of excessive force.

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Originally Posted by woodbuck27

The way you Blah Blah Blah ...MB might just have to kick your ass. :-)

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Good logical argument. Clearly you got me.

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Originally Posted by bobblehead

You have clearly never been forcefully detained by law enforcement.

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Of course not.

I know how to behave. I am also an intelligent and wise man.

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Originally Posted by bobblehead

If that is excessive abuse (as opposed to allowable abuse) then every officer ever making an arrest is guilty. He has ZERO complaint of excessive force.

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Again.... I am 100% sure that Michael Bennett would disagree with you.

Your on 'the Idiot Walk' now...so (maybe!?) simply let it go.

If we are playing Match Play Golf. Your down Nine Holes with just the Back Nine to go.

Let's toss it up ... go for a beer.

Better still bobblehead your so brilliant; why not show us all of that and join the Pro Pickem' Challenge here @ Packerrats.

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Originally Posted by Brandon494

Then these whiny ass cops write a letter to the NFL mentioning how Bennett doesn't stand for the flag like that has anything to do with what happened.

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Actually his anti police, anti patriotic political views that he spouted using his fame to get them out there. Have EVERYTHING to do with this incident.

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Originally Posted by bobblehead

You have clearly never been forcefully detained by law enforcement.

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Of course he hasn't, Mounties don't actually get off their horses and do that stuff;)

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Originally Posted by mraynrand

I was removing an AC from a window at my church, and a neighbor called the police, thinking I was breaking in (unbeknownst to me). The police arrived soon (five cars if you can believe it) and surrounded the building. I saw one out the window and asked him what was going on. He told me to come to the door. I opened the door and stared into two draw semi-automatics rifles and a pistol. I did exactly as they told me. Eventually I gave them my wallet and proved who I was and why I was there, but could have been shot pretty easy had I not followed instructions. There were no body cams. Honestly, I would not run at all. I would get on the ground and put my hands behind my head and await instructions if police are involved.

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On its face, pulling guns about a property crime seems like unnecessary escalation. Did they have reason to expect you to be armed? I understand they don't want you to get the drop on them, but given you were already seen, seems like there is another way to safety approach.

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Originally Posted by bobblehead

I saw at least 10 black men run past the police in that video. They didn't chase any of them. Why not?

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Don't know. But I cannot tell who is who in that video.

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Originally Posted by Rutnstrut

Actually his anti police, anti patriotic political views that he spouted using his fame to get them out there. Have EVERYTHING to do with this incident.

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Stfu, you are just as clueless to real world issuess as you are in football talk.

Sheesh....we'ere about an hour from the beginning of the season....PB is a couple post's away from a milestone....Patler is preparing for his second game day experience......

Get a fuckin' grip...

I have no problem with overwhelming force to overcome a threat. But I don't see the threat. Perhaps there was, but I haven't seen anything convincing yet.

The letter from the Union chief is not convincing because he picked a side before any of this happened. His job is to defend and deflect.

The review procedures most organizations use is WAY too insular. Only police and their supervisors are on them. Citizen involvement is limited, some of them have no say, they are observers only. The Police protect and serve the public. If there are questions about their public conduct for their job, the evidence should be public. So I am not optimistic this gets cleared up.

The cameras being off should be a fireable offense.

The lack of thorough data being collected and reported by departments about interactions with the public is ridiculous.

A life threatening encounter with police (at the casino or doing air conditioner repair) should not rest on a fight/flight or flee response by a panicked individual.

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Originally Posted by QBME

Sheesh....we'ere about an hour from the beginning of the season....PB is a couple post's away from a milestone....Patler is preparing for his second game day experience......

Get a fuckin' grip...

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I'd give up that post to have better and more video.

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Originally Posted by pbmax

I have no problem with overwhelming force to overcome a threat. But I don't see the threat. Perhaps there was, but I haven't seen anything convincing yet.

The letter from the Union chief is not convincing because he picked a side before any of this happened. His job is to defend and deflect.

The review procedures most organizations use is WAY too insular. Only police and their supervisors are on them. Citizen involvement is limited, some of them have no say, they are observers only. The Police protect and serve the public. If there are questions about their public conduct for their job, the evidence should be public. So I am not optimistic this gets cleared up.

The cameras being off should be a fireable offense.

The lack of thorough data being collected and reported by departments about interactions with the public is ridiculous.

A life threatening encounter with police (at the casino or doing air conditioner repair) should not rest on a fight/flight or flee response by a panicked individual.

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It is pretty easy for us to "Monday morning QB" the situation. We can't say what we would do if we haven't been in that kind of situation.

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Originally Posted by Rutnstrut

It is pretty easy for us to "Monday morning QB" the situation. We can't say what we would do if we haven't been in that kind of situation.

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I am not MMQ this situation. I am saying the entire approach to police conduct, from training through conduct review and correction and data collection, is riddled with holes and self dealing.

The administrators allowed to get away with this have reasons to bury bad news. Its almost the union head's job. Those who do poor police work have obvious motives. Its simply a stupid way to do the public's business. There are exceptions and model programs and departments. But the fact that the difference never even gets discussed is why this never gets fixed. And trust is not earned back. Its either with the police or against them.

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Originally Posted by Rutnstrut

Of course he hasn't, Mounties don't actually get off their horses and do that stuff;)

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That's not actually correct. I have the Proof:

https://barbadosfreepress.files.word...r-barbados.jpg

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Originally Posted by woodbuck27

That's not actually correct. I have the Proof:

https://barbadosfreepress.files.word...r-barbados.jpg

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Freakin mounties profiling a white guy.