If you bought a replica jersey with silk screen numbers, you're probably not going to get an authentic jersey with embroidered numbers. I suspect that's what they meant.
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Interesting to me is how it is looking like these guys were making a habit of this, with the police linking 2 other killings to them, and a shooting in Florida, but they seem to be incredibly inept at it. Starting with how easily the body was found...leaving spent shell casings in rental cars? Using a gun that there is a picture of you holding floating around the internet?
Nobody said they were smart.
I've seen you make this type of comment twice now. Forgive my ignorance as I haven't closely followed the PED discussion between the league and the NFLPA, but isn't the NFLPA balking on PED testing because of distrust in Goodell stemming from the bounty fiasco?
My understanding was that the league had agreed to third party arbitrators regarding appeals of positive PED tests but the NFLPA was trying to push for third party arbitrators of all appeals - disciplinary, etc. You can argue that pushback is warranted after Bountygate, but I'm just wondering which of the league's PED testing suggestions you are in disagreement with. Again, sorry to go off topic but I'm looking for more information.
Guy on NFL radio said the opposite is true. He will be a marked man. The guy who kicks his butt will rise in esteem throughout the prison. There will be lots of psycho wanting to move up the pecking order by taking a famous athelete down to size. Guy says, he will likely be in soliatary and have little contact with other prisoners for his own safety.
I'm not sure where this came from, JH.
You posted a thought that Hernandez wasn't like the many sociopaths who populate our prisons. I suggested that maybe he is actually one of them. I have no proof, and offered no conclusion, just the possibility that he is.
I then wrote that IF he committed the crime as alleged, a planned and calculated (albeit poorly) execution of a quasi friend who was apparently the boyfriend of his sister-in-law to be, and/or murdered the two others in 2012, for which he is now being investigated, I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep worrying about how comfortable he is in prison. After all, these weren't murders committed in a moment of passion or anger. They were planned events from which he had time to back away.
That's it. Nothing more. From that you have apparently concluded that I have no feelings for the lives of women and children lost in war. You imply that I revel in knowledge of the dead babies and children. Well, I knew personally a great many lives that were lost in war, some close to me, all combatants. Not only do I grieve those that I knew and the others "on our side", I assure you that I also grieve the innocent women, children and noncombatants. Now, a bit of enlightenment for you: I also grieve the enemy soldiers, most of whom were no different than us. They were simply born in a different country, in a different culture. For that stroke of fate, we killed them and they killed us. We could just as well have been comrades in arms on one side or the other.
I am insulted to the very core of my being that you would accuse me of being otherwise.
Now, do I have the same compassion for Hernandez if he committed the murders as alleged? If I am honest with myself, the answer is no. Did I have the same compassion for Jeffrey Dahmer? Again, the answer is no. Did I wish Dahmer to be killed in prison, or do I hope that harm will come to Hernandez? Of course not.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt on this one, that you typed without thinking.
But I assure you this, you have gone very far out of line with your accusations and analogies in the response I quoted and others at about the same time. Calm down and we can have a discussion. Continue with over the line personal accusations, and we can not have a discussion. It's up to you.
His post was well-reasoned. Yours was not. What could you possibly disagree with? Our snipers love the cloud of pink mist that means one less kid will drop an RPG on one of our vehicles. And they love their children. Your comment shows a typical low-information mindset.
Now I'm not sure where we are in your point of view. I thought I agreed with everything in your first post, but if you don't see our warrior as the good guy I've got a problem.
However, leaving aside the morality of the military mission, you are absolutely right that our warriors are trained to feel zero remorse at killing the enemy according the rules of engagement.
Seems as though things are a bit intense in this thread.
I wonder how Tom Brady feels about his receiving corps now. Lost Welker, Hernandez and Gronk is questionable with his back and arm. There's 3 targets he knew like the back of his hand. As for Hernandez' jersey, the Pats should hire that Packer fan who turned Bert's # 4 into a Havner 41. It's going to be tough but that man had talent!
Dahmer was in isolation for a while, but had been transferred to the general prison population. He survived an attempted slashing, but was left in the general population. He, Jesse Anderson who murdered his wife in a mall parking lot and blamed it on muggers and a third convicted murder were left alone on a cleaning detail, without a guard. The third guy bludgeoned both Dahmer and Anderson.
I apologize, Patler. I don't think I was even responding to you, it was the guy who called me a moron or idiot, or whatever it was. Not my proudest moment.
Good god, max prison sounds horrible.
Re: Aaron Hernandez comparable value.
The value involved is actual fabric that the pros wear made street ready for the civilians.
I bet you it is style for style.
Wonder if I can get a Jim Plunkett?
http://library.kraftsportsgroup.com/...e_in_rules.pdf
Here is the exchange policy.
It was win-win-win. Got the capital punishment he deserved, it didn't cost an arm and a leg (it is apparently more $$$ to put someone to death than to incarcerate them for 25 years!) and he got a lot more of the pain and suffering he deserved than if he was killed by the state!
Wikipedia tells me the killer was named Christopher Scarver. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Scarver
I'd never read the story - wow, took the two of them out single handedly. I doubt Dahmer or the Anderson guy were real tough nuts though.
I follow both of these guys and I was on board with Danny Pro Bowl Amendola (in fantasy circles I've been calling him that ....jokingly...for a while.............but I have to put two things out there
Welker is quicker in his cuts in route running than DA is
And Amendola.....my annual sleeper for my fantasy roster...can't stay healthy...Welker generally does
Not every teammate has bailed on Hernandez. Deion Branch speaks up for his former teammate, though he wisely steers clear of pronouncing him the victim.
http://m.albanyherald.com/news/2013/...mplates=mobile
Quote:
“Aaron is a great guy and a great friend of mine and a great teammate,” Branch told The Herald “I love him to death, and it was shocking to hear his name involved in this situation. I truly hope and pray he doesn’t have any dealings with it.”
Quote:
“That’s my guy, man,” Branch said of Hernandez. “That’s my guy. It really shocked me. He was a great kid. Overall, I hope the best that he isn’t involved with it and I hope he gets his name cleared, but most importantly I send my prayers and condolences out to the Lloyd family.”
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports...oting/related/
Hernandez was interviewed by the Gainesville Police as part of an investigation into a shooting when he was at Florida (I think this was his freshman year). However, the police are saying the interview was very brief and that the interview was prompted because his name came up once the the initial report as having been in the area of a club near the shooting. Also mentioned as interviewed were Reggie Nelson and the Pouncey twins.
But this quote is what caught my eye:
Was he in such trouble with his drug tests that he needed this intervention or were there other things going on? And how many players were in the group?Quote:
Hernandez played for the Gators from 2007-10 and was a member of Urban Meyer‘s third UF recruiting class. Meyer, now the head coach at Ohio State, has come under scrutiny since his former player’s arrest, with the New York Times publishing an exposé in which the paper wrote that the coach said the talented but troubled player “had been rehabilitated with daily Bible study sessions that the coach conducted personally.”
With the added bonus that he won't cap Branch's ass next time he sees him!
Read some comments on that story, some calling Branch naive, etc, that he's guilty as sin after this trial by media. One poster brought up a good point though...before you declare him guilty, read the following:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_case
It's the story of the three Duke lacrosse players that were tried by media, a ridiculously overzealous prosecutor and a flawed process which included, among other things, the accuser being shown a photo lineup that included only the suspects. The lacrosse coach was forced to resign and the Blue Devils cancelled their season.
The Duke lacrosse team situation was almost the exact opposite. Players had receipts and witnesses that put them in completely different areas at the time of the assault. Per one report of the Hernandez indictment, the police have solid evidence of Hernandez picking up Lloyd, and their cellphones pinging the same towers at the same time from Lloyds place to where his body was found, the last within minutes of the estimated time of death.
Maybe I should not have mentioned the police side, because you are right, by all appearance so far it seems like they've got it all together, and have stepped carefully...as they are want to do in a situation where the defendant is going to have a few million dollars at his disposal to spend on his defense.
I was referring more to the trial by media...where everyone assumes he's guilty because of what's been written about it.
I think there is a parallel seen from this point of each incident. The initial, publicly released material in the Duke case all seemed to point to a team event and assault of a woman. It was after that public disclosure of the prosecutor's information that mitigating details, including the reason the women was familiar with the team to begin with, etc., began to surface.
Many players on the team did have alibi's and weren't involved, but those details emerged later from the defense. And we haven't heard much from the defense yet.
My recollection is that the Duke case seemed weak from the start. Holes were evident at every stage of the investigation. My impression was that the media very early on portrayed the prosecutor as grasping for straws in pursuing the case. The school may have over-reacted, but was probably in a situation were they could do little else.
I think there is a reason we haven't heard much from the Hernandez defense yet, they haven't figured out what to say. All he argued at the hearing was that the case was circumstantial, which in reality is no different than a great many criminal cases. Even the judge said although it was circumstantial, it was “...a very, very strong circumstantial case." I don't recall anyone feeling that way in the Duke players case, even at the start.
So does this mean NE is in the market for a receiving TE? You think they'd trade for D.J.Williams? I imagine there are a lot of phone calls going around the league on the Patriots' receiving corps.
I don't know if NE would be willing to part with a draft pick for Williams. They might decide to wait and see what players don't make other squads at the end of TC.
If they want production and feel they need more talent, they will try to get someone sooner rather than later to get the timing with Brady down. As for parting with picks for Williams, what is he actually worth? Maybe a conditional 6th at most. They'd probably give a good pick for Finley, but with the Hernandez cap hit, I don't think they can possibly take on Finley's salary.
Well, in the Lacrosse case you had two groups of people giving slanted and plain bad info to the public. DA Nifong, who was disbarred over his actions during the investigation and trial.
And columnists who were grinding a "no snitching" axe and felt that the La Crosse case fit the template: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...50C0A9609C8B63
Straight news pieces might have painted a different picture but I recall it took some time to walk back the conventional wisdom on that one.