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Drafting is about being the least terrible.
QB (3) Rodgers, Flynn, Tolzien
RB (4) Lacy, Starks, Harris, Kuhn
WR (5) Nelson, Cobb, Boykin, Adams, Janis
TE (4) Bostick, Quarless, Rodgers, Taylor
OL (8) Linsley, Tretter, Lang, Sitton, Bakhtiari, Bulaga, Sherrod, Taylor
DL (6) Boyd, Jones, Thornton, Daniels, Pennel, Raji
OLB (6) Bradford, Matthews, Elliott, Perry, Neal, Peppers
ILB (4) Barrington, Hawk, Brad Jones, Lattimore
CB (5) Bush, Hayward, House, Shields, Williams
S (5) Hyde, Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Richardson, Banjo
ST (3) Crosby, Masthay, Goode
IR: Abbrederis, Barclay, Lyerla
PUP: Guion
PS: Gerhart, Aaron Adams Goodson, Doughty, Thomas, Rajion Neal, Perillo, Dorsey*
*Not sure if Dorsey qualifies for PS.
I like this projection. I had kept Palmer on because of special teams, but I can't see them cutting a guy with Elliott's pass rush potential. I'm not sure Bradford deserves to stick, but he was a 4th round pick. Plus, if he can't play OLB, he still offers potential at ILB. It will be interesting to see how Guion performs. I'm guessing they'll give Pennel some snaps earlier in the game to see how he does against better competition. Rolle would be one of the tougher cuts for me. I know Harris had the fumble, but I liked the way he ran. I think this game actually helped his stock--since it looks like he's closer to where he was before the injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joemailman
I am fully off the Perry Bandwagon. I still had a toe on there, but after seeing him look very average against the 2s and 3s this week, it wouldn't shock me at all if he were cut.
I thought Perry looked fine. Had some decent bull rushes and set a hard edge in the run game. If I get time to rewatch, I'll focus on him. He doesn't have the agility to get around the edge--like Clay. He does have a good bull rush and pushes the pocket and sets up other guys. I thought Daniels had a great game.
There's a step down from Clay & Peppers to Neal & Perry, but if you want to see anemic pass rush watch Palmer, Mulumba, & Bradford.
I am pretty excited to see more of Jay Elliott in this next game. If he plays well again, he stands a decent chance of bumping Mulumba or perhaps Palmer.
Mike McCartney @MikeMcCartney7 3h
NFL supposedly going to increase Practice Squad from 8 to 10 players. That'll be good for the 64 additional players working.
This guy is usually pretty legit but I have not seen it elsewhere.
Jayrone Elliott against good competition (Florida & Missouri):
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9619784
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9645691
Most of his sacks come via speed off the edge, but this was a nice play.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9883622
I was hoping to see him jump off the screen a bit against what should be inferior talent. He just doesn't and maybe he's peaked?Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers
The thing that bothers me just a little bit is that all of them, Perry, Peppers, even Jayrone did their best work from the Right OLB spot - where Clay plays most of the time. I'd love to see one of them show some bookend ability from the left side. However, it's still early, and I doubt the Packer D is giving anybody the real thing to have a film of.
The game is going to be shown at 10 am EDT this morning on the NFLN.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers
I think Clay's been playing LOLB a lot this year. He's played there before, including 2010.Quote:
Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker
Edit: The NFLN website lied. The game is going to shown in the middle of the night later on. :-xQuote:
Originally Posted by Pugger
QB (3) Aaron Rodgers, Matt Flynn, Scott Tolzien
RB (4) Eddie Lacy, James Starks, DuJuan Harris, John Kuhn
WR (5) Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Jarrett Boykin, Davante Adams, Jeff Janis
TE (4) Richard Rodgers, Brandon Bostick, Andrew Quarless, Jake Stoneburner
OL (8) David Bakhtiari, Josh Sitton, J.C. Tretter, T.J. Lang, Bryan Bulaga, Derek Sherrod, Corey Linsley, Lane Taylor
DL (6) Mike Daniels, B.J. Raji, Datone Jones, Josh Boyd, Khyri Thornton, Mike Pennel
OLB (6) Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers, Mike Neal, Nick Perry, Andy Mulumba, Jayrone Elliott
ILB (4) Brad Jones, A.J. Hawk, Sam Barrington, Jamari Lattimore
CB (5) Sam Shields, Tramon Williams, Casey Hayward, Davon House, Jarrett Bush
S (5) Morgan Burnett, Micah Hyde, Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix, Sean Richardson, Chris Banjo
ST (3) Mason Crosby, Tim Masthay, Brett Goode
IR: Jared Abbrederis, Don Barclay, Colt Lyerla
PUP: Letroy Guion
PS: RB Rajion Neal, WR Myles White, WR Kevin Dorsey, TE Justin Perillo, OT Aaron Adams, OC Garth Gerhart, LB Carl Bradford*, LB Joe Thomas, CB Jumal Rolle
*Being a 4th round pick, Bradford probably wouldn't clear waivers. If he's claimed, I'll give the spot to DL Carlos Gray. The Packers may think Bradford has a future at ILB though, so it wouldn't surprise if they kept him.
The other tough calls were Ryan Taylor vs. Stoneburner (or even Perillo) at TE and Elliott vs. Nate Palmer at OLB. The fact that other players have been getting reps on the top special teams units over Taylor and Palmer may mean these guys may not make it on their special teams abilities alone. A lot will depend on how some new guys do on special teams. I think Elliott will get his chance in the next game, but I really like his pass rush potential... even going back to the first preseason game. I watched a bit more of the last preseason game. I thought Mulumba and Lane Taylor had bounce back games and may have solidified their spots on the roster. I think Brad Jones has been quietly fantastic in the first two preseason games--while Lattimore has been a disappointment. He's had several coverage breakdowns. Barrington has had a good preseason.
Solid analysis, Harve.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers
I'd like to see Ryan Taylor cut bc I'm sick of waiting for him to do something and I really don't see his ST skill set as being all that. We probably go 8 OL bc we don't have a 9th worth being on the roster. I feel sorry for Bradford, I think they asked him to do a job he couldn't handle and we may lose a good player over it. 3 QB's? probably. Both TT and M3 don't want to go thru last season's back-up QB nightmare. HH, Flynn is the back-up QB by a good margin.
I'd like a solid big back RB, Harris is such a mite I dunno if he can last another season, even as a back-up.
Agree on Brad Jones, he's many posters whipping boy, the guy has skills.
Lattimore better get going, I could see them picking up an ILB if one becomes available, there will be some out there.
While I think they might keep 3 QBs initially if the roster is healthy and they don't have 3 or 4 keepers who are unable to play, I think it is a waste of a roster spot when they start getting injuries. I know, I know, they needed 3 last year, but what are the chances that they will again? Only once in the last 22 years have they had to play their third QB. The chances of it happening again are small.
I doubt there will be much interest in either Flynn or Tolzien if they are waived. Nobody wants to bring in a cold QB after they have been working with others in their system all summer. What TT did last year was very unusual. Besides, Flynn has been a flop everywhere but GB, and there will be more experienced QBs than Tolzien who will be looking for work. The appeal with Tolzien last year was that he was practice squad eligible. That is gone for him now.
Great reaction after jumping to bat down a ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers
BTW, what's the point of having eligibility requirements for the practice squad? Why not just let anybody be eligible?Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
All I can think of is that the player's union hates the practice squad because it takes away real jobs with real good pay.
As a fan, I just want larger rosters so there is a better product on the field. Maybe less player movement. Practice squads help stabilize things in a small way
Since the player is free to sign with anyone either on a practice squad or a regular roster after he is released from a training camp roster; and since he is free to leaving the practice squad to go to any team's regular roster, there doesn't seem to be any good reason to limit eligibility, does there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
Maybe this is the league and union trying to have a decent apprenticeship program.