Sure looks like faith when they draft 3 RB's.
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Sure looks like faith when they draft 3 RB's.
Or less faith in the backups.
Last time they needed a starter, they took one late in round 2. This time their first RB was late Round 4.
Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 29m29 minutes ago
Mike McCarthy: Ty Montgomery is our starting running back.
We have no one behind him though
They know they will NEED the back ups as Monty is not able to handle it full time.Quote:
Originally Posted by pbmax
If anything this shows lack of faith in Christine Michael as a backup and/or John Crockett. 3 low round picks are not a threat to Montgomery.
If this is a pass first team, as it damn well better be, Montgomery won't be carrying all that big a load.
C'mon, this is just whistling past the graveyard. How many RBs are a go for 16 games?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rutnstrut
He won't even make it to the bye without missing time.Quote:
Originally Posted by pbmax
That may be true but I would bet very few running backs make it to the midway point of the season healthy
I didn't say healthy, I said missing playing time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz
So you expected Green Bay to go into training camp with Ty Montgomery as basically the only RB on the entire roster?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rutnstrut
We had to replace Starks and Lacy just from the 53 man roster...let alone the 3-4 other kids we'd bring in for camp. Only a complete idiot would suggest taking 3 RBs in the latter half of the draft is a sign that Green Bay has no faith in Ty.
Yeah, because they have never went understaffed at RB, oh wait...Quote:
Originally Posted by King Friday
So you are saying it is crazy to be understaffed...but the Packers have no faith in anyone on the roster since they actually drafted a few guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rutnstrut
Perhaps they just learned a lesson last year and didn't want a repeat? You are reading way too much into this.
I very well could be, and I really hope they did learn from last year. I don't think TT would ever admit last year was a screw up, but oh well.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Friday
the lack of rb depth was ridiculous last season. it's fixed now. we won't keep 7 (or 8...whatever it is) so look for a few to go away (michael + +).
Anyone else wish Lacy and Crocker ever played together? Crockett and Tubbs would have been awesome.
Williams and Jones will make the team for sure. With Michael that gives us 4 solid options. Having Williams back there allows us to move TY around I would guess. I like the draft for this position but would have liked it even more if we had Perine paired with Jones. I really think TT missed a really good one there. Perine could have been the guy that wears down a Defense and just punishes in the 4th QTR. I have to have faith that Williams will be good enough but I do predict that Jones is gonna be a HUGE surprise for us.
The problem, if you can call it that, is that we have too many quality receivers and to only a slightly lesser extent, a bunch of RBs. You just can't stockpile them, considering the fact that players on the practice squad can be easily signed by anybody.
No way needed Perine or somebody like him. On second glance, I see that Mays is not that - thankfully. If/when we need a short yardage power guy, Ripkowski will do just fine.
If he doesn't fumble again...
Sums it up about right.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Friday
Personally, I love Monty with our FA TE signings. The Pack can come out in 12 personnel. What does the D do? Do they play heavy run, base or nickel?
If the D plays run heavy or base you can split Monty and/or 1 TE out. If they go nickel, you pound the ball into a 6 man box with 7 blockers.
Effectively 12 personnel for the Pack is a hybrid 02 with a WR playing RB. It can be a heavy run package or similar to a 5 wide package.
I agree Thunder.
I'm not sure I understand the point/argument that Rutnstrut is trying to make. Monty should feel a lack of confidence now that the Packers have tried to create some quality depth during the draft? Rut, are you saying the Packers showed lack of confidence in Monty? You almost make your own counter argument in your replies when you talk about how things went last year with the lack of depth. I would agree that they did have lack of depth, but that will happen when you lose one backup even before the season starts (Crockett), and significant time to complete season (Starks and Lacy). It's pretty rare that your depth gets challenged so much that you have to convert a WR to a RB. I like to focus on the fact that they found a good, somewhat unexpected option. I knew he had some running back experience in his football career, but never expected the Packers to need it, let alone how well he did when pressed into the role.
This argument is a non-starter. I look at this as nothing more than trying to build up quality depth behind Montgomery. Michael, Jackson, and Crockett are not guaranteed to make the roster. The team has not invested much in them, certainly not enough to stand pat with them and not try and build more competition/depth at that position through the draft or college free agency (although I didn't noticed any more RB's in that class). After yesterday, I think the team hears your depth argument loud and clear, don't you?
Thompson said it was a really deep draft for RB and that's why he ended up with 3. Convenient cuz we needed RBs. They all look like they could be good. Man, would be great if we had one of those once in a decade drafts where we get two stars and a handful of good starters.
GB gave up on John Crockett at the beginning of March, when they declined to tender him even though all it required was a minimum salary offer because he was an exclusive rights free agent. He can't be signed for anything less than that by GB or anyone else. They could have given him the option of signing with them, or sitting out the season. They let him become an unrestricted free agent instead.
Prior to the draft the Packers had just three RBs on their roster (not counting fullbacks). When have they ever gone into training camp with less than 5 or 6? I doubt they could even run the practices they want to with just 3. It's the same reasons why they will start with about 10 WRs.
Right now they will have at least 5 guys auditioning for one or two spots behind Montgomery on the final roster, and another one or two on the practice squad.
Drafting three was just a way to fill up their off season roster needs with players they think have potential to stick behind Montgomery, because he is the only one with a virtually guaranteed roster spot.
I'm guessing the RBs next season will be Ty, Williams, and Jones with Mayes to the PS.
This is exactly what I was thinking as I read this thread. FWIW, I really like the way Monty runs. But the Pack will not assume he has 240 carries in him so they would be fools not to load up on back-ups. Monty has that mysterious sickle cell trait issue that could pop up at some point again. We need other Backs to be ready. If one of them turns into this year's Jordan Howard (5th round Bears pick last year) --all the better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carolina_Packer
Do you think they release Michael?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon494
ted's pretty loyal if the $ are the same. in this case they won't be. if he thinks one of the noobs is as good as michael...michael is gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by VegasPackFan
Now that Michael has a full off-season with the team, and since he projects as a backup, I'm guessing that he'll have to prove his worth playing special teams as well as whatever snaps he might get on offense. If one of the younger players catches on fast and is more versatile, Michael may be gone.
The guy has had a couple of spectacular runs and a whole bunch of dumb ones. If a rook can play better on ST, and pick up the assignments and move forward, Michaels will likely be gone.
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Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker
Rip-a-fart-kowski is a fumbler and can never be trusted again! During the most important game of the Packers season and the most important game of his lifetime, the guy doesn't even bother protecting the football with his life! Still really puzzled why y'all like this guy so much?
I'm excited to see this Jones kid in camp, I think he might end up being the gem of this draft class.
Agreed! Jones is going to be a dynamic back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon494
Just don't let Micheal return kicks...Quote:
Originally Posted by Carolina_Packer
Huh? He had a grand total of one fumble last year and in his career. It was unfortunate it was in the NFCC game but that was his lone fumble ever so you can't say he is a fumbler.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
maybe but there's something to hitting the hole quickly too, or launching yourself over the wall. got to be athletic.Quote:
Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker
just cuz he goofed up one kick return...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugger
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Chrissy never should've been re-signed in the first place. The guy loves running into an OL player's ass at full speed. He's either blind or gay...can't make up my mind as to which it is.
Perhaps he is both.