Best pass rusher available is Carl Lawson of Auburn. He's been injured a lot last 2 years. What say you?
According to CBS best available player is Chad Hansen - WR - Cal. Hey Mad! He's white!
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Best pass rusher available is Carl Lawson of Auburn. He's been injured a lot last 2 years. What say you?
According to CBS best available player is Chad Hansen - WR - Cal. Hey Mad! He's white!
Last thing we need is a guy with injury history ala Justin Harrel on the defense. I say pass on Lawson and look elsewhere.
Top of the 4th, stay true to your board, but with an on on a needed position. I think I would go RB with either Samaje Perine, OK or Marlon Mack, USF. Perine would replace the type of player Lacy is, and Mack would be like a Dalvin Cook.
With the late 4th round pick, I would go pass rusher. Here are some that look promising. Still plenty of opportunities and available talent to get a good pass rusher.
Keion Adams, OLB, Western MI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xle8yF0PMvk
Samson Ebukam, OLB, Eastern WA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvbt1ygEaWA&t=22s
Javancy Jones, OLB, Jackson State
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiFvCUM34WI
Vince Biegel, OLB, WI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRY6d4duaJA
Other guys worth mentioning are
Jojo Mathis, OLB, Washington
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXfMvHP8mE
Carroll Phillips, OLB, Illinois
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-Ln_lK7f2U
RB Samaje Perine and TE Bucky Hodges are must drafts today!! You can do it Teddy, the rest can be below average D linemen just to satisfy your below average D Linemen cravings!!!
I still absolutely don't want Perine, and I think Ted will see it that way too. Also, why in the hell would we draft a TE?
I'd like to see the Packers get Vince Biegel with either the early or late 4th round pick. I also still say Dede Westbrook is an exceptional WR - enough to draft him even though we really don't need a WR. I suppose whether I like it or not, we need a RB today also. I just hope it is a speed back, not some big plodder. I'm sure Ted will pick up an O Lineman too, probably with one of the 5th round picks.
Perine seems like the easy call here; he's BPA nearly everywhere I go but TT most likely knows better. Tex, he's been productive and looks like he could start in the NFL. Why don't you like him ? He seems like an easier call than our 1st rounder, who we almost had to draft given the current state of our secondary
I'd like to see us get a PR/KR today. With Hyde gone and if Davis ends up in the dog house again, we need someone to return punts. I guess Cobb could do it, but I'd rather see someone else.
I think Marlon Mack is a better overall running back than Perine. I don't think the Packers should necessarily look to replace Lacy with another Lacy like guy. Mack in my opinion is the best running back available.
I wouldn't be mad if we took the OL from Pittsburgh but still hoping for my RB
I don't think Biegel will last to the end of the fourth round but if he is there the Packers should grab him. I don't think he is the overall athlete as Watt, but I think he could bring just as much value as Watt brings in the first round
A month or two ago I didn't know many of these guys from Adam. Yeah, I've seen some play. Some of the Badgers. Some Big Ten guys. A few SEC guys. I've heard of others, but haven't seen them play.
So my opinion doesn't count for much.
I do like to hear first hand accounts of guys though. Like when Fritz says he's seen a lot of Malik McDowell and the guy is a cancer. Those kinds of comments are incisive and, in this case gratifying, since McDowell went to the Seahawks and the damnable Pete Carroll.
This pick is a 'no brainer'. Look at his film (LINK below). Ted Thompson PLEASE pick RB Samaje Perine. I have checked and a lot of Packer fans want this guy and we need a real RB.
Samaje Perine is the obvious choice. He is out of sight strong (30 Rep's and overall solid meaureables) and a real team guy.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profil...ine?id=2558138
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/s...1&action=click
I'll be disappointed if TT passes on Samaje Perine and especially so given the need.
we need pass rush bad
i didn't like the third pick yesterday, how many fucking d-linemen do you need when you only play 2 or 3 at a time?
Day Three Prospects for the Packers
Marlon Mack RB USF - he has some quickness and vision that is on par with the elite backs in this draft. He will try to avoid contact
Howard Wilson CB Houston - also a kick returner. has the frame and numbers but needs to mature his body
Nico Seragusa OG SDST - Mauler at offensive guard
Isaac Asiata OG Utah - Decent athlete could be a bit soft at times
Vince Beigel OLB Wisconsin - Nonstop motor loves the game
Carl Lawson OLB Auburn - Aggressive but stiff probably best athlete left as a 3-4 edge rusher
Anthony Walker Jr. MLB Northwestern - Muscle bound fellow, aggressive and has some speed 4.65 forty
Blair Brown MLB Ohio - Spark plug type player, good athlete quick, he has to get stronger
Jarron Jones DL Notre Dame - Mixed bag.
Jaleel Johnson DL Iowa - He is a hustler and has size
Noah Brown WR Ohio St -Very young and probably should have stayed in school, but he is a big bulk receiver
Dede Westbrook WR Oklahoma St - painfully thin in the lower body but he is fucking fast and can run great routes
Jeremy Sprinkle TE Arkansas - Good blocker and and offers some pretty good speed at the position
Jeremy McNichols RB Boise St - Pretty complete back decent size, not very sudden
Samaje Perine RB Oklahoma St - Big back runs like a bulldozer and is one cut and go runner
Brian Hill RB Wyoming - good size and production for an every down back, may lack vision and elite natural ability to run the football at the next level
Here is film of your guy. He's quick and has great balance. He lacks Samaje Perine's power and strength and has excellent balance and sheds tacklers with ease.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEEweKyYcDA
Samaje 'The Real Deal' Perine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-hxd55alKE
Ted waiting for a call.
Yes!!!!!
Kid is a player, Biegel!!!
there we go
sooo, defensive holes all fixed?
still could use another ILB, but i say get another o-lineman in the later 4th, then grab BPA the rest of the way
Horrible pick
i guess they think rip can be the banger rb.
Round 4 and Pick NO. 1 ....Packers (From Browns) Biegel, Vince OLB 6'3" 246 Wisconsin 5.2
One of the popular choices here. Sadly not the RB I hoped for Samaje Perine.
maybe they'll trade up this round. wash has two up and coming picks.
There are still a lot of good RB's and WR's available.
Kid is a 5th round talent at best and we take him with 1st pick in the 4th...smfh
I like the pick of Biegel. I think he will be a fan favorite. He certainly has a passion for playing the game, and if he can make splash plays off the edge, like Clay did in his younger playing days, he'll need a new sack dance!
Biegel arguably is just as good as T.J. Watt. He had the foot injury, and even when he came back he probably wasn't 100% - the reason for a lesser senior season and falling in the draft. I don't think there is anything chronic about the injury, so if/when he is healed, he ought to be at least as good as his junior season - which was damn good.
Here are the Top Prospects remaining when TT made his pick at the top of Round Four:
56. Dorian Johnson, OL, Pittsburgh
58. Davon Godchaux, DT, LSU
59. Tedric Thompson, S, Colorado
64. Malachi Dupre, WR, LSU
65. Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma
70. Desmond King, CB, Iowa
74. Jordan Leggett, TE, Clemson
76. Josh Malone, WR, Tennessee
77. Carl Lawson, DE, Auburn
81. Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming
83. Joshua Dobbs, QB, Tennessee
84. Isaac Asiata, OG, Utah
86. Zach Banner, OT, USC
87. Jeremy Sprinkle, TE, Arkansas
89. Josh Reynolds, WR, Texas A&M
90. Vince Biegel, LB, Wisconsin
92. Roderick Johnson, OT, Florida State
95. Jaleel Johnson, DT, Iowa
97. Julie'n Davenport, OT, Bucknell
98. Dede Westbrook, WR, Oklahoma
99. Nathan Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh
100. David Sharpe, OT, Florida
There goes Perine to the Redskins.
Well, the Badger/Packers homers have to be happy. Biegel is a decent player but I would have preferred that we took either Perine or Mack with that pick. Evidently TT still has nightmares from the Falcon game so he's hell bent on adding more bodies to the D and trying to do something about it. I'm feel pretty, "meh" about these last two picks but I hope Biegel and Adams work out for us.
I wonder if they still could have drafted Biegel at 29 in the 4th if they had picked up Perine with the first pick. Clearly the Packers valued picking Biegel in that spot and not risk losing him. Now, perhaps they can go Marlon Mack at the end of the 4th.
well dang it. guess i'll take the dogs for a walk. smh
Samaje Perine is the 9th RB picked in this Draft and is now a Washington Redskin:
Round 4 ....Pick NO. 7 (114) Redskins (From Jets) Perine, Samaje RB 5'11" 233 Oklahoma 5.6
The bigger and higher graded RB's (220-240 lbs and 5.4 or higher grades) are off the board leaving possible targets:
Clement, Corey RB 5'10" 220 Wisconsin 5.2
Green, Tion RB 6'0" 230 Cincinnati 5.2
Yearby, Joe RB 5'9" 200 Miami 5.1
Rogers, Sam FB 5'10" 231 Virginia Tech 5.1
Carson, Christopher RB 6'0" 218 Oklahoma St. 5.1
Mays, Devante RB 5'11" 230 Utah St. 5.1
Smith, De'Veon RB 5'11" 223 Michigan 5.1
Shell, Rushel RB 5'10" 227 West Virginia 5.1
Ogunbowale, Dare RB 5'11" 213 Wisconsin 5.1
My feeling is that if TJ Watt's last name was Biegel, they would have gone within a round of each other. Both good, not great pass rushers. Smart, pretty fluid, with good measurable. Last year, Biegel would have gone in the late 2nd, early 3rd, because of the lack of edge players. Good pick.
Yes was doing so well then he had to fuck it up and draft need over BPA....so pissed right now