Anyone watching tonite's Titian-Jaguar battle for southern subparity? Cos I'm not.
That pbmax has me confused. A Packers win plus a Cowboys win = playoffs for Packers? JSO, ESPN, CBSsports and JohnElwayIsAGod.com all say so.
Anyone watching tonite's Titian-Jaguar battle for southern subparity? Cos I'm not.
That pbmax has me confused. A Packers win plus a Cowboys win = playoffs for Packers? JSO, ESPN, CBSsports and JohnElwayIsAGod.com all say so.
Great game
The game went about as one might expect.
Two teams struggling for or to avoid all the hype associated with owning the NO. 1 Draft Pick.
One team Tennessee better on 'O' than the other Jacksonville with a superior 'D' and at home.
Question:
Which team do you pick when straws separate them in overall efficiency?
Right !
That team won the game.
NFL.com still says nope. The only way a Cowboys win puts the Pack in this week is if its combined with an Eagles loss OR combined with a Packers and Eagles games both ending in a tie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister
The Packers clinch a playoff spot with:
1) a win plus an Eagles loss or tie
2) a win plus a Cowboys loss or tie
3) a tie plus an Eagles loss
4) a tie plus an Eagles tie and a Cowboys win or tie
5) an Eagles loss plus a Cowboys win or tie.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ffpicture_news
fans care about this crap. Players on the field really don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by woodbuck27
I think you are mixing it up, if I'm understanding. The scenario above is an or situation. A Packers win + Eagles loss gets the Packers in OR Packers win + Cowboys win. If the Cowboys win or Eagles lose, the Cowboys clinch the East. The Packers own the tiebreaker against the Eagles.Quote:
Originally Posted by pbmax
That is what ESPN is saying. But that chart is a list of OR scenarios that are separate scenarios each.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers
Packers can clinch if Eagles lose AND Cowboys win or tie.
Packers can clinch with tie AND Eagles loss.
Packers can clinch with tie AND Eagles tie and Cowboys win or tie.
The only way a Cowboys win gets the Packers in (regardless of what Pack does) is if Eagles lose or tie.
These also involve Packers:
The Lions clinch the NFC North with: a win and a Packers loss.
The Lions clinch a first-round bye with a win, a Packers loss and a Cowboys loss.
The Cowboys clinch a playoff berth with: a win plus a Packers loss or tie plus a Lions loss or tie as long as both results don't tie.
A Cowboys win plus an Eagles win would force a Packers win to clinch. The Cowboys clinch the East but if the Packers lose out and the Eagles win out the Packers are out out.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers
I'd say it's likely the Eagles win out vs. the dysfunctional and possibly checked-out Skins and Giants remaining.
My head hurts.
"Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist; but football is only two things - blocking and tackling."
- Dan Devine
take some ibuprofenQuote:
Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25521617
Oh boy, "Enhanced Longevity." But will I get to feel like I'm 80 again?Quote:
Originally Posted by mraynrand
1) We're not talking about the Packers losing out.Quote:
Originally Posted by vince
2) We're talking about scenarios where Dallas wins + Green Bay wins this week. pbmax had stated a Dallas win + Green Bay win doesn't guarantee a playoff spot for Green Bay. According to ESPN's playoff machine, if the Cowboys win this week and we win, we are in. Let's say Dallas, Philadelphia, and Green Bay all win this week. Dallas and GB at 11-4 with Philly at 10-5. If we lose next week, we'll be 11-5. If Dallas and Philadelphia win next week, the Cowboys we'll win the East at 12-4. Green Bay would own the tiebreaker over Philly by virtue of their win over Philly. GB would be a Wild Card. If Dallas loses and Philly wins next week, the Eagles we'll win the East. The tiebreaker with Dallas would flip to Green Bay by virtue of a better conference record. GB would be a Wild Card. If Philly loses next week, we'd have a better record. GB would be a Wild Card. I just don't see a scenario where GB doesn't make the playoffs with a win + Dallas win this week.
The nice thing is, rooting for a Dallas win isn't rooting against a first round bye. Dallas would own the tiebreaker over us if we lost a game because our conference record would be the same as Dallas but they own the next tiebreaker. However, if we win out, we own the tiebreaker on the basis of a better conference record.
Go Green Bay and Go Dallas!
That explains a lot about Devine actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
You have to figure in a three way tie to wild card scenarios. Presumably, possibly remotely, there is a 3 team scenario where the Packers H2H win over Philly doesn't get them through.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers
Here we go. Now, recognize that it took me 8 minutes of fiddling to produce a 4 way tie for the wild card at 11-5 and the odds of the Packers making the playoffs today, before the result at Tampa is know is roughly 93%. But a GB win plus a Dallas win this week does NOT clinch a playoff spot. But regardless, their chances of being in the postseason are good. Winning at this point is more about the 2 seed than the 6 seed, versus making the tourney at this point.
EDIT: I did have a screen shot all cued up of the Packers and Cowboys both winning in Week 16 and Packers getting the tie breaking shaft at 11-5 but I screen capped Week 17 by mistake. Going back, the only way to get that scenario was to have Dallas lose out of conference this week (16) but win in conference next week (17). I could not create a scenario where the Packers were out if they and the Boys won this week.
It might be that a tie is necessary to produce that condition. And the playoff calculator doesn't do ties.
THIS IS JUST AWESOME !Quote:
Originally Posted by woodbuck27
Check this out. It's so much better to win.
Posted: 17 hours ago
EXCLUSIVE: Gus Bradley Postgame Speech
Go inside the locker room as the Jaguars celebrate their win over the Titans on Thursday Night Football.
http://www.jaguars.com/media-gallery...d-8394dc5ac1fb
and In more Jaguars news;
Jacksonville QB Blake Bortles wants to start in spite of any lingering injury just like Brett Favre did.
He wants to chase Favre NFL consecutive starts streak record.
I want to be reincarnated and live a life like Mr. Jean Beliveau did.
Well stated.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers
actually that is a Vince Lombardi quote. I thought it was famousQuote:
Originally Posted by pbmax
90 is the new 80Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi
Deliberately misquoting and misattributing Lomabardi? negative repped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
Quote:
Originally Posted by http::/Packerrats.com
Explaining the joke is useless, so i will just cop to the failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
who dat?Quote:
Originally Posted by mraynrand
Well it turns out the ESPN and Yahoo! playoff machines each have the tie game option. Still couldn't find the apparently anomalous set of circumstances that NFL.com has where GB and DAL win in Week 16 doesn't clinch for GB.
At 11-5 (only way to win in Wk 16 and not win division), they have the tie break over Dallas (conf) and Eagles (head to head). Even if you make Eagles the Division winner, can't get Dallas over the Packers for WC.
Couldn't create a tie game that helped.
Packers.com agrees with Tank and ESPN:
http://www.packers.com/news-and-even...41220_37692147Quote:
With a Green Bay win, the Packers would need either the Eagles (9-5) to lose or the Cowboys (10-4) to win to be assured of getting in. Just one of those other games would need to go Green Bay’s way, but not both.
We want Cowboys to lose so Packers have homefield over them in playoffs. That's the royal "we"
But the Cowboys play better away than at home. Ergo, shouldn't we want the Cowboys to win?Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
The Roughing the passer rule has to be reviewed in the off season.
Washington got a call on a bang bang play. RGIII pass's and is hit softly within a second. The defender actually relaxed the hit closing and quickly opening his arms on the hit. It was a soft hit. RGII felt little impact.
The Official is right there ! Roughing the passer is called.
The call gives Washington new life and they go on to score a TD to go out in front by 3 Points in the 3rd Qtr.
Refferfuckin' Refereeing. What the 'H' is this football or 'Pansy ball'?
I really wonder sometimes if the fix isn't in. The officials get a nice check from Vegas?
There is no way that Washington should win this game without the Officials helping.
The score is now 17-14 and the Eagles are lining up another short FG. Pokey missed a chip shot earlier a 34 Yarder.
Holy mackeral he miss's it again.
Last Play - 02:28 Q3
C.Parkey 46 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-J.Dorenbos, Holder-D.Jones.
Cody Parkey came into this game 29 of 31 and he miss's two so far today.
As I'm writing this the Redskins scored again after another long pass to DeSean Jackson who's up to 4 receptions and 126 yards on his day so far.
The Eagles are stuffing it in Washington right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi
They just got called for their 11th penalty and they missed 2 relatively easy FG's.
Their snake bite.
Eagles just tied the Redskins with 6:17 left in 4th qtr.
Philadelphia is about to get beat.
another roughing the QB call against iggles.
Thank you...Dirty Sanchez.
Redskins beat the Eagles 27-24.
WOW !
The Eagles lose three consecutive games.
SCORE Skins 27 - Eagles 24
The Eagles had 13 Penalties. They missed two FG's that were very makeable.
I'm not Tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by pbmax
:)
What is with the networks cutting to commercial before the replay on a pick or fumble. To allow us to see the play before any review.
What's up with that?
A wild game in San Fran tonight.
With about 5 minutes remaining it's 49ers 35 - Chargers 28.
The 49ers are 14 yards rushing away ...... from a franchise record for yards rushing in a game.
Gore has 158 yards and Kaepernick has 131 (add another 26 yards) for a total of 315.
The Chargers are trying hard to recover now....2 minutes remain. The ball is on the San Fran 45 2nd and 10.
Holy crap the San Diego Chargers have tied it up with 29 sec's left in regulation time.Quote:
Originally Posted by woodbuck27
They had trailed 21 - 0.
The 49ers have the ball with 26 sec's left and need about 35 yards for a FG shot.
16 seconds left and the ball is on the San Fran 34.
Kaepernick runs to the San Diego 46 and 16 seconds left.
Here comes Phil Dawson for a 60 yard FG...........wide right.
END ON REGULATION.