http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWDCOV5Cktk
Yeah Green Bay made the WORST decision they could have by getting rid of Favre.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWDCOV5Cktk
Yeah Green Bay made the WORST decision they could have by getting rid of Favre.
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That sounds like some of the posters here last fall. I wonder how this guy enjoyed eating his foot?
Good, bad, or indifferent the fact is the team went 6-10 last year and that won't cut it. If Mr. Rodgers doesn't lead this team to some winning records and playoff wins, nobody will care how his numbers look. The 21st century Packer fan is alot less forgiving that us from the Lynn Dickey years! We want wins, a pretty offense just won't cut it!
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Originally Posted by LEWCWA
Explain this ;)
Offense 8th ranked (nfl.com yards)
Defense 20th ranked (nfl.com yards)
ST's 26th ranked (Dallas Morning News overall ST's ranking *Rick Gosslin)
Strength of schedule 12th toughest (nfl.com)
Passing offense 4th ranked
Running offense 26th ranked
Rodgers (4th yards) (6th Passer Rating) (4th TD's) (10th comp %)
I don't think Rodgers has much left to prove, except to the few people like you, who will be proven wrong.
Yes. Aaron Rodgers isn't the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustinHarrell
maybe this guy should find some new work cause he kinda sucks at this!?!
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Originally Posted by LEWCWA
Great Post!!!... at least the bold typing... you are correct the TEAM went 6-10... and the defense gave up 4-5 of those games in the 4th quarter or overtime... if the 'D' can improve this year and the offense at least stays the same, we are hopefully looking at 11-12 wins this year... at least some fans are hoping anyway... some i'm not to sure about... but i'm not here to mention any names... :wink:
Prove us wrong just like your wonderful Justin Harrell has? I sure as hell hope not or the Pack is in huge trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustinHarrell
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Originally Posted by Gunakor
Add one more point to start thread total :wink:
This is so funny that it almost facepalms itself! What messed up fucking logic! The very idea that someone would actually believe this!Quote:
Originally Posted by LEWCWA
Can he improve? Surely.
Could we have had a championship caliber team with him + a defense last year? Abso-fucking-lutely.
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Originally Posted by JustinHarrell
Did I say that he has anything to prove? He played excellent last year. I was just comparing last years team to many I watched in the 80's. Some of those teams were awsome on offense, but still had shit records. I don't see anyone talking about how great Lynn Dickey was 25 years later! Only point to my post was, if Rodgers puts up good to great numbers for 5-6 years and the Pack is a mediocre .500 type team, he will be lumped in with those Packers. Nothing more nothing less....
FYI I didn't even look at the youtube link, because I don't really care. To me it doesn't really matter about Favre. He is finished and thats that. Rodgers is the man now and I would much prefer a Favre type legacy than a Lynn Dickey one. Ya gotta be better than 6-10 though.
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Originally Posted by LEWCWA
Wouldn't that be a Packer problem overall not a Rodgers problem individually? Dickey, Lofton and company probably don't get the credit they deserve, which is another example of why I believe the team is much more important than the QB.
Minnesota (very good D, great running game, bad QB) playoffs
Packers (bad D, bad ST's, bad running game, good QB) no playoffs
Like I said, you're a doubter. You think we're losing because of Rodgers. I think you will be proven wrong over time. We can sit here and talk about how Dickey ruined the 80's defenses and how Rodgers ruined the 2008 defense and you think you have merit. Time will take any relevancy you have away. For now, keep digging. I'll argue as far as it takes to draw a contrast and then let time decide who is right.
Who cares what that guys thinks. Hell he looks like he just got in from little league practice. He has never seen anyone besides number 4 under center anyway.
I'm glad they don't have any video of me predicting that Odell Thurman and Robert Ferguson were going to be stars in this league!
I guess I don't see how he's that far off point.
He said he's fragile.. He did get hurt last year, in addition to every other year he's been in the league. Sure, he played through it, but will he be able to stay healthy next year? Maybe, maybe not.
He also said the Pack was a contender in 2007, and wouldn't be in 2008 with Rodgers. They weren't in 2008 with Rodgers.
With that said, his wording is a poorly chosen. At no point does he say Rodgers is a bad player or anything like that. He simply implies the Packers 2008 season will be a disaster, and it was.
Considering that the speaker in the Youtube video was doing a Fantasy Football analysis, he absolutely does look like an idiot at this point. From a Fantasy Football perspective, Rodgers was stellar last year, since Fantasy throws out all the things about "wins and losses" and "clutch performances", and Rodgers was (statistically) one of the best QBs in the league last year.
You need to look no further than the title of the video and his first line. "One of my bigger busts is Aaron Rodgers." He wasn't a bust. Also, no one would have been a contender with our defense last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partial
He said "Rodgers would be a bust in 2008". Did you miss that part? Also he implied Rodgers would be the reason they wouldn't be a contender. Rodgers wasn't the problem. The length you continue to go to bash Rodgers is getting down right pathetic.Quote:
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Partial, the lengths to which your brain goes to block out, misfile, misunderstand and make nonsense out of that which is not in alignment with your preconceived opinions is truly amazing. What a powerful ego you have.Quote:
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By that analysis, Brett Favre was fragile too. In how many years was he injured, but played through it?? Most of them, by my recollection. Being injured at some point in the season does not mean you are fragile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partial
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Originally Posted by Patler
These days I think he's more emotionally fragile. The dude cries more than Dick Vermeil watching Old Yeller.
Well.. how was he not? Quarterbacks are ultimately judged on wins and losses, not pretty stats in the middle of the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by cpk1994
Agreed, but this was prior to last season, when he showed a remarkable ability to hurt himself :P . So far, he's made it through one season. Hopefully he can do it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
Actually, you've missed the dude's whole point. He was trying to say that the Packers would absolutely suck because they made a horrible mistake in not handing Brett the starting gig back. That the team would suck because it was not led by Brett Favre, but as been posted a million times already, Favre was not statistically better. The Jets imploded at the end of the season and their win/loss record had far more to do with their QB than our record had to do with ours. Therefore, yes, the guy is a moron. If you bring up injury and their record at the beginning of the season, I will remind you that a true leader would have sat himself down when it became apparent that his injury was affecting the bottom line of the team. I wonder if that's why a certain coach lost his job...???
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Originally Posted by MJZiggy
The streak was more important than Mangini.
Aaron Rodgers is only effective in the middle of the field? Are you suggesting he can't put the ball in the end zone? Where in the hell do you get this stuff and how can you possibly believe it to be true? I don't think I've ever seen a more appropriate avatar than yours with that guy who babbles on and on and on like a broken record. Is your entire persona some kind of ruse I'm not hip to? The Rogue Rat? You know what that means I assume...Quote:
Originally Posted by Partial
Only three quarterbacks in the league put the ball in the end zone through the air more than Rodgers did lin his first year starting last year. Only effective in the middle of the field? Rigth. Can't put the ball in the endzone? Right. He also ran for 4 TDs himself.
Inside the red zone, he threw for 19 TDs and 0 INTs. Yes a big fat goose egg. Oh, and that comprehensive quarterback efficiency statistic you conveniently use when it suits your opinion, and dismiss when it doesn't...Rodgers' QB rating was 106.8 inside the opponent's 20 yard line.
Only effective in the middle of the field I tell ya. The power of the ego at work...
Yup, the Packers were 6-10 last year. Therefore, Aaron Rodgers is only effective in the middle of the field and can't get the ball in the end zone.
You're still in school aren't you P? You need to take a course in logic my friend.
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Originally Posted by vince
I assume he's still just upset about the whole Brett fiasco.
Partial has been talking about how irreplaceable Favre was and how there was no way a 25 year old (never started a game) QB could come in and lead a comparable offense with the same players. He argued over and over there was no way the Packers would choose Rodgers over Favre. When it happened he swore they were ruining their franchise (pretty much the same stuff this guy said in the vid)
Rodgers (in his first games ever starting in the NFL) came out and lead a comparable offense.
Now, he hangs on the last little shred of hate he can. He says Rodgers only throws to the outside, said he can't throw over the middle of the field. He says it, but he's never proven it. It's just something he says that allows him to not accept reality.
The reality is that first year Rodgers is as good as recent Favre (better now). He can't admit that to himself. I wouldn't take offense to it. Partial isn't enough of a man to admit (to himself) when he's wrong. Every time you see him beating his dead horse, feel bad for him because it's his weakness. Think of it as him squirming because everyone except him knows he's full of shit.
I've never seen a QB get more love for leading a losing team. You guys are such homers.
Remember, Rex Grossman led the league in games with QB rating above 100+ too. Stats do NOT tell the entire story about a player.
He went to the SB that year :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Partial
You still think Rodgers is not the real deal, huh Parsh?
Well, you and LEWCA can have that corner. It's going to be awfully lonely awfully quick.
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Originally Posted by MJZiggy
What a load of homeristic bullshit; gosh do you really believe this ?
For years we glorified the guy for playing though pain; celebrated the Giants TD when he comes running off the bench. Celebrate his often success when he was far below 100%. When he lost those games we didn't hammer him to death for not realizing he was "hurting the team" by playing with pain. Like an athlete has that ability. That's a coaches call.
Now we ream him for playing with pain and expect him to magically realize it's apparent he's hurting the team. Gimme a frickin break.
FAHU
Frickin Absolutely homeristically Unbelievable
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Not the real deal? He's certainly not a top 5 quarterback imo. Most people in the world aren't. Define real deal. I think he's the 14-16 best starting QB in the NFL right now. Could get better, could get worse. He has an unbelievable amount of talent around him right now, and it will undoubtedly be significantly worse in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustinHarrell
Exactly. Every player in the NFL is hurt at some point in the season. Nobody in the NFl goes thru a season healthy. They are playing football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
Fuck, every year we have someone explain the difference tween being hurt and being injured.
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Originally Posted by Partial
I'd definitely put Rogers top 12; possibly top 10 with current performance.
That is not taking into account looking into the future
Figure it out Partial. The defense of Rodgers is due almost exclusively to your nonsensical statements designed to undermine his performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partial
Then you keep throwing more nonsensical logic to protect a fragile ego over the possibility of being wrong.
Has it occurred to you that those defending Rodgers are placing the bulk of the blame (yes, blame is being placed on the Packers) where it actually deserves to be placed - on the defense and special teams, and to some extent on injuries to key defenders! Yes, those are the PACKER defense and special teams!!! But us homers would never criticize the team, would we....
Actually, I have now figured it out! Partial, you are actually Aaron Rodgers' brother or work for his agent and you are consistently spewing lies disguised as ignorance about him in order to motivate fans to do the research about his actual performance in order to crystalize and grow fan support in Rodgers' favor! Now that's sheer brilliance - and a highly effective strategy. Well done sir.
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Originally Posted by JustinHarrell
Stats don't matter, only winning does...except when you lead your team to the Superbowl...then the stats clearly show that....well, my head is exploding. :oops:
So, if Arod had shitty stats and lead us to the SB..then it would be the result of everybody else..the team won despite Arod.
If Arod had great stats and lead us to the SB...proves nothing, cause stats don't mean anything.
If Arod had great stats and we don't get to the playoffs/SB....IT PROVES EVERYTHING.
If Arod had poor stats and we dont' get to the playoffs/SB...IT PROVES EVERYTHING.
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Originally Posted by Partial
Brain exploding.Quote:
Quarterbacks are ultimately judged on wins and losses, not pretty stats in the middle of the field.