Abuse within the NFL games

Watching the New York Jets DL Muhammad Wilkerson #96 today made me wonder about what his punishment for swinging not 1 or 2 punches but possibly 4 or 5 (I'd have to rewatch the game and it also depends on what you consider a punch). How different are his actions in todays football game against the numerous Packer players than Ray Rice's against his then fiancé?

Should Wilkerson be subjected to the same punishments as those who are involved in domestic abuse? Are his actions less bad because he is not in a relationship with any of the Packer players? I think if you punched people out on the street you would get arrested, why should it be different because it occurred during a football game?

He'll get suspended for a game. Maybe one punch and he could skirt the suspension, but he threw more than one and seemed proud of it after the fact. One game and one game check.

He should be suspended for stupidity. I've never understood the reasoning behind punching a helmet

He was flailing like a girl. It's in the heat of the moment and our guys can protect themselves. $25k fine and that's it.

This is a ridiculous thread - have none of you ninnies ever been in a fight??

Football is a rough sport... testosterone and adrenaline. Throw a fine at the guy to placate you sweeter than sugar types, and forget about it.

The older I get, the more I realize just what wimps younger Amerikans have become.

I agree with wist. The premise of this thread is absurd.

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Originally Posted by channtheman

Watching the New York Jets DL Muhammad Wilkerson #96 today made me wonder about what his punishment for swinging not 1 or 2 punches but possibly 4 or 5 (I'd have to rewatch the game and it also depends on what you consider a punch). How different are his actions in todays football game against the numerous Packer players than Ray Rice's against his then fiancé?

Should Wilkerson be subjected to the same punishments as those who are involved in domestic abuse? Are his actions less bad because he is not in a relationship with any of the Packer players? I think if you punched people out on the street you would get arrested, why should it be different because it occurred during a football game?

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Ray Rice's fiancee wasn't wearing a helmet. I think that's the difference.

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Originally Posted by smuggler

He'll get suspended for a game. Maybe one punch and he could skirt the suspension, but he threw more than one and seemed proud of it after the fact. One game and one game check.

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And threw punches at 3 different players. He had to go that far to get kicked out of the game, that doesn't happen that often.

But I think that will serve as the suspension.

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Originally Posted by wist43

This is a ridiculous thread - have none of you ninnies ever been in a fight??

Football is a rough sport... testosterone and adrenaline. Throw a fine at the guy to placate you sweeter than sugar types, and forget about it.

The older I get, the more I realize just what wimps younger Amerikans have become.

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Its not a rough sport if you are punching someone with a helmet. That's just self-abuse.

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Originally Posted by channtheman

Watching the New York Jets DL Muhammad Wilkerson #96 today made me wonder about what his punishment for swinging not 1 or 2 punches but possibly 4 or 5 (I'd have to rewatch the game and it also depends on what you consider a punch). How different are his actions in todays football game against the numerous Packer players than Ray Rice's against his then fiancé?

Should Wilkerson be subjected to the same punishments as those who are involved in domestic abuse? Are his actions less bad because he is not in a relationship with any of the Packer players? I think if you punched people out on the street you would get arrested, why should it be different because it occurred during a football game?

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No, when you sign your contract to play football there is a recognition that football is a violent game.

The Jets player was penalized enough when he was kicked out of the game. I am sure he will get some token fine from the NFL and that will be it.

Spouses and children don't sign up to go toe-to-toe with other 200+ pound freaks of nature.

He might get a 1 game suspension, I can't see it being any more. They were still in the 3rd quarter with the game on the line, so losing him for the rest of it is a fair amount of punishment.

I get a kick out of all the flags that got thrown, and near as I could tell his was the only penalty assessed? Everything else was offsetting? lol Richardson and Quarless were going at it pretty good. Richardson had Quarless' by the face mask and was jerking his head around, and Quarless retaliated by ripping his helmet off, but that seemed to be ignored.

To compare an in-game fight to the Rice altercation is nothing short of ignorant, but I suspect channtheman was trolling or trying to expose the ridiculousness of one thing or another. I missed it.

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Originally Posted by Joemailman

Ray Rice's fiancee wasn't wearing a helmet. I think that's the difference.

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Thank you. There is a BIG difference between the heat of the moment on the football field and punching a woman in the face and knocking her out cold in an elevator.

Rice's fiancee also wasn't a world class athlete. This thread is silly.

Football is a sport where you do things to other people that would land you in jail otherwise. If I tackled someone on the street, or even shoved them like I was blocking, I might get prosecuted. The context matters, at least to most people.

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Originally Posted by sharpe1027

Football is a sport where you do things to other people that would land you in jail otherwise. If I tackled someone on the street, or even shoved them like I was blocking, I might get prosecuted. The context matters, at least to most people.

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Most people who don't consume faux outrage-based products, anyhow.

Channtheman has a point that nobody has been willing to acknowledge. Wilkerson threw punches in the north end zone in Lambeau, which is the Packers' home. Domestic abuse, aggravated by the fact that it happened in someone else's house.

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Originally Posted by hoosier

Channtheman has a point that nobody has been willing to acknowledge. Wilkerson threw punches in the north end zone in Lambeau, which is the Packers' home. Domestic abuse, aggravated by the fact that it happened in someone else's house.

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What would be the South end zone be, neighbors or a park?

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Originally Posted by pbmax

What would be the South end zone be, neighbors or a park?

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A Wal-Mart parking lot.

It'll be zero games. Andre Johnson and Cortland Finnegan ate a 25k fine with no suspension for their brawl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zYmfz9wxdc

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Originally Posted by denverYooper

A Wal-Mart parking lot.

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Can I tailgate there before the game?

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Originally Posted by Tony Oday

He was flailing like a girl. It's in the heat of the moment and our guys can protect themselves. $25k fine and that's it.

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Under the new rules, that statement is domestic abuse and you sir, should be suspended from this board. That's the kind of attitude towards women that causes abuse. /SARCASM OFF

what ever happened to the guy that kicked that punter in the face week one?

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Originally Posted by gbgary

what ever happened to the guy that kicked that punter in the face week one?

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He's starring in the new Kung Fu remake.

I like some of the new rules in the NFL that take away cheap shots and dirty play. Grabbing face masks or punching a guy in the throat in the trenches is crappy, they've cut that out. They're stopping low blocks that kill knees. Chuck Cecil was never really so tough, putting your helmet in the back of a defenseless receiver is not impressive.
I'm even partially onboard with protecting QBs, especially from late hits.

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Originally Posted by gbgary

what ever happened to the guy that kicked that punter in the face week one?

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Antonio Brown. He got fined and will now be on every "best of" highlight reel for this season. Even the ones the NFL compiles.

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Originally Posted by VegasPackFan

Under the new rules, that statement is domestic abuse and you sir, should be suspended from this board. That's the kind of attitude towards women that causes abuse. /SARCASM OFF

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Are you part of the PC police now? Using the term "flailing like a girl" is domestic abuse? Get real.

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Originally Posted by Teamcheez1

Are you part of the PC police now? Using the term "flailing like a girl" is domestic abuse? Get real.

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https://warosu.org/data/tg/img/0306/...3939120076.jpg

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Originally Posted by Teamcheez1

Are you part of the PC police now? Using the term "flailing like a girl" is domestic abuse? Get real.

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I guess you don't get sarcasm.

Some people may have seen or heard that prior to the Thursday night game, Mr. James Brown of CBS took the time to monologue/lecture the country on domestic abuse and he actually stated that saying something like "you throw like a girl" is where these problems start because it demeans women. I turned off the TV. But this is the type of PC crap they lay on us all the time.

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Originally Posted by VegasPackFan

I guess you don't get sarcasm.

Some people may have seen or heard that prior to the Thursday night game, Mr. James Brown of CBS took the time to monologue/lecture the country on domestic abuse and he actually stated that saying something like "you throw like a girl" is where these problems start because it demeans women. I turned off the TV. But this is the type of PC crap they lay on us all the time.

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Its just a programming error. You forgot the invoke /SARCASM ON tag at the beginning of your post. So TC didn't get the pop-up message.

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Originally Posted by VegasPackFan

I guess you don't get sarcasm.

Some people may have seen or heard that prior to the Thursday night game, Mr. James Brown of CBS took the time to monologue/lecture the country on domestic abuse and he actually stated that saying something like "you throw like a girl" is where these problems start because it demeans women. I turned off the TV. But this is the type of PC crap they lay on us all the time.

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I'm with you brother!!! You're 100% correct (and then some).

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Originally Posted by VegasPackFan

Antonio Brown. He got fined and will now be on every "best of" highlight reel for this season. Even the ones the NFL compiles.

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that's it? should have had a suspension. that's as bad as any stomp i've seen.