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Too bad you can't take Cohen with you.
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Too bad you can't take Cohen with you.
I like that he went out on top with his successful mock draft.
I like McGinn. Y'all can hate on him but he is universally respected as a reporter. He'll be missed. I like Cohen too. I'm not sure if he has Ty Dunne talent with words, but he is pretty good.
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Gotta have at least one beat writer to bitch about on this board, or we'll get way too quiet in the off season.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcilite
He turned sensationalist at the end. I liked him for most of his career, but the last few years he's either been mailing it in or flip flopping to tell whatever story he wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael
I'll miss his post-game in-depth film-study game review articles. Someone will pick that up no doubt but I'm not sure any of the current guys will do that as well as McGinn.
My guess is this isn't the last we'll hear of him, though it won't be breaking down games. He won't be able to keep himself from blessing the peasantry with his unique knowledge about what it really takes to win in the NFL.
I liked his scouting pieces and game analysis/breakdowns. His predraft coverage was excellent.
The other stuff, especially the last few years, was clickbait.
He's one of the better packer writers for JSO and I'll miss 65% of his columns. :) Good luck to him in retirement.
Where's Cleft Crusty when you need him?
Love his reported pieces, and as vince said his game reviews, especially the Tuesday grades after watching the replay. Same for season in total and by the numbers.
Disliked his sensationalistic "the sky is falling" weekend pieces to get fans to choke on their Cheerios.
Overall, we are less well informed today.
And he isn't leaving writing, he said he is moving back to Ann Arbor and will pursue other avenues. Not retiring.
So, do we get Bedard back?
Yeah, there's no room for reporters in the Green Bay universe if you aren't forever sucking at the cock of the organization
I did not know the dude was from A2.
McGinn's writing that was based on watching film was outstanding. I wonder if anyone else will be willing to put the work in that he did. I just get the feeling that all the beat writers covering the Packers now are going to sound pretty much the same. I was critical of some of the stuff he wrote in recent years, but I was still glad he was doing it.
My only real issue with his articles is when he wrote things from a fact standpoint instead of opinion.
The guy was connected in the NFL, I think, and he certainly seemed to put a lot of work into some of his analyses. I didn't like all of his work - maybe the nature of the news game today demanded some of those dumb clickbait pieces, but on the whole he was a professional and I think he will be missed.
ding ding dingQuote:
Originally Posted by Joemailman
Why would anybody celebrate McGinn leaving just because he has strong opinions you sometimes disagree? Distinctive personalities are good. He was very serious about his job, and has a wealth of knowledge about how the Packers and NFL have operated in the past. He's smart.
I don't lament the ditching of all old-timers. Not to mention any names - Bud Lea - but some guys have lot of knowledge but are kinda bland.
Is Vic Ketchman leaving? http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?28978-Vic-Ketchman
That's another old timer who added personality - too opinionated for some.
I with you.
I'll actually miss his perspective on things.
McGinn knows his football. I have to wonder if journalism didn't demand 90% sensationalism, comment generation, page-views, and facebook shares what McGinn would have chosen to write. Also wonder how much of that was necessitated for business sake to account for the Packers boring and tight-lipped front office. Either way guys who know the game and get paid to write about your team are rare and valuable. I'll miss him once a less knowledgeable writer takes over the buzz-feed duties at the JS sports desk.
Old-timers who are opinionated...:hrt:Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
I miss Christl. Nothing sensational there. I agree that the analytical part will be missed. Hopefully another guy steps up, but doubtful. <sigh> oh well. Sensationalist clickbait of the future, here we come!
Well, let's take a look at some not-so-distant future headlines from the next generation of Packer beat writers:Quote:
Originally Posted by Smidgeon
"Thompson Close-mouthed About Sexual Preferences"
"McCarthy Frustrated with Thompson's Style"
"Bennett Blowup Appears Imminent"
"Rodgers' Frustration Evident on the Field"
"Packers Unhappy and Angry: All Fingers Point at Thompson, McCarthy"
"Belichek to Green Bay?"
"Holmgren Hints at Return to Coaching; Green Bay a Possibility?"
Thats the sweet smell of success!! err .... could also be pigshit !?Quote:
Originally Posted by Smidgeon
Either way, both relate to McGinn's articles which always reek of opinion stated as fact. I agree, the after game rankings were good to read!
I liked that he was a realist and called it like it was as opposed to the constant homerism from most others.
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Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
Ketchman, unike McGinn, is a colossal dope.
You mean like predicting the Packers could make the Super Bowl even if they lost Aaron Rodgers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rutnstrut
Cohen had some touching quotes on Twitter about how Bob and his wife Pat looked out for him when he hit town with no family nearby.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcilite
Had him over for holidays and he stayed with them after he had knee surgery.
I think McGinn was fantastic and I'll miss him. One of the best and entertaining. He had his sources and he added a ton to JS. I appreciated critical thinkers and fear they'll just hire a corporate bobblehead aka...boring cheerleader.
WIST....I want WIST to replace Bob McGinn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cohen is boring. But maybe he needs a few years to get his confidence and develop a style. He is smart enough.
I agree that Cliff Christl was fun to read; McGinn never quite filled his slippers. It's a shame that Cleft Crusty left the business, but here's hoping he is getting the care that he needs.
Realism is usually another word for bullshit from those who don't have the balls to express optimism - usually REALISTIC optimism - about the home team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rutnstrut
Oh god I hated Christl. If I had to read that high school football was better than the NFL and that only 2 or 3 "playmakers" made a difference each year another time I would have puked on my keyboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
Cohen is a goober that spends his days looking at police botters on microform as basis for his articles
He's the only Packers writer that consistently held Rodgers accountable for his uneven performances in big games, so for me that was quite refreshing. Became a bit of caricature the last few years. But I'll certainly miss his anti-goober/homer perspective that is often lacking in Packer land.
How did he hold anyone on the Packers accountable? Did he dock their pay for bad games?