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Matty Flower had an interesting interview. He implied it's nice not to have a true number one WR because he's been a part of teams in the past where QB's would try to force the ball to the @1 when they should have been throwing to the open WR instead.
Wilde and Tausch were arguing about this; so I'm stealing this idea for a poll.
Which WR on our roster, and you can only choose one, best develops into our Number 1 WR
Maybe the 100 catch guy with at least similar, or more yards to the next ?.
I'd add, Wilde and Tausch, could not agree on the answer
Reed, his yards after the catch are amazing. He runs like the wind.
Yes, no, all of the above.
I said Reed. On top of being fast, having really good hands and playing bigger than his stature, I think he’s incredibly smart. I think over time, Love is going to have a special chemistry with him.
Physically, I think Wicks has the skillset that leads to volume numbers.
Watson is a big play guy, but he’s also very savvy in the red zone. He might end up with the most touchdowns.
But as the go to guy, most yards, I think it’s Reed.
I think it's Wicks. His combination of good size and great route running remind me so much of Adams. Guys the size of Reed don't become #1 guys that often. He's fast, but not Tyreek Hill fast. He's not as great a route runner as Jennings was. Watson isn't a factor until he proves he can stay in the lineup.
I think Watson has the most physical potential to be that guy, but who knows if he will ever get his career untracked? He's an injury waiting to happen, so far.
So I voted Wicks. He's got the build and the attitude. Reed is I think too slight to be that guy, and as someone else said, the slot guy is not often that guy.
I was torn between wicks and reed. Definitely, the size is a problem for Reed, but I like the savvy and speed. Kind of Jennings like that way.
i honestly have no clue, i'd say doubs is in the running too
reed could very well turn into a tyrek hill type of player, watson just can't stay healthy, and wicks has the potential but so far has a small body of work
at this point i've seen the most out of reed followed by wicks
Why do we even need a clear #1? All have been excellent so far. Keep the other teams guessing, then target whoever gets weaker coverage.
I voted for Watson because he still has the highest ceiling and hopefully gets over the injury thing. For now, they should use him lightly, a decoy and occasional hit on a deep pass.
Reed reminds me of C.D. Lamb. Is he as fast? Maybe, time will tell. Is Wicks the next Davante? He shows signs. He reminds me more of Michael Irvin, though, which is almost as good. Hell yeah, Doubs should be on the list too.
I don't see Doubs. Doesn't get separation often enough to be a #1. He may have a year like Jones had in 2012 when he led the NFL in TD's, but not likely to be the #1 guy.
I'm confused by the definition of #1 WR.
If it's the guy most likely to catch more passes, then it's gotta be Reed for me. He gets open and makes plays with the ball.
If it's a guy you throw when not necessarily open, that's not Reed. I'd go with Wicks or Watson.
I think #1 is determined by 2 things:Quote:
Originally Posted by sharpe1027
Who is the guy the QB wants to go to when he absolutely has to have a completion?
Who is the guy the opponent is most concerned about?
I mean, if the injury situation clears up in his future its Watson and its not close. I love the depth and balance, but Watson is just a different kind of athlete. If he learns how to prepare his body for the NFL season and stays healthy the sky is the limit.
But I'm in the camp of throwing it to who is open. I hope Love just continues to run the offense. I don't care if Melton McFuckDoggle is the guy who is open, thats where I want the ball going.
This a ridiculous poll. It’s obvious it’s going to be a rookie WR from next year. The one the Rodgers pick is used on.
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Originally Posted by red
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Originally Posted by sharpe1027
I struggled with the exact definition as well. I had started to define it, but instead decided to leave it out to spur on more debate.
ROUGH stats I was going to throw out where perhaps, a 90-100 catch season/ 14-1500 yards
FYI
Wilde thinks it's Wicks
Taucher started the answer with Reed, and then flipped his choice to Watson
I really like Reed. Wicks too though. And Watson. It’s a toss up. I think Reed is the most sure bet.
1400-1500 is too high a bar. Only 5 guys in the entire NFL had 1400+. I think 1200 would be more like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bretsky
1200 and 10 touchdowns is definitely a #1Quote:
Originally Posted by Joemailman
Davante is a borderline HOFer and he’s only gone over 1200 and 10 4 times in 10 years.
Does this sound right?
Reed is most likely to get lots of touches and make plays after the catch.
Wicks is more likey to be they guy to fight for the 50-50 ball.
Watson is more likely to beat everyone deep and go up and get a short TD pass jump ball.
Pick which one is your #1, but you want them all on the field.
Hahahahahahaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadtownPacker
because we are so deep at WR, do we trade one or 2 away, and when? (probably not this offseason)
Probably, if they all go the way they’re going. 2nd round pick is better than a 3rd compensatory.Quote:
Originally Posted by red
Could be a 1A, 1B between Reed and Wicks. I lean more toward Wicks, because he's been better against man coverage, but they've both been good and things like that can change a lot year-to-year.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...a8d3cbed&ei=10
As usual the national media is only about 3 months behind packerrats for good ideas. I guess that's why I spend more time here than packer "news" sites.
FYI what I love about the debate is that it has so many angles. Personally I think Wicks could be DAdams 2.0. He does everything Adams does. He's just a tad bigger than most WR. Plenty fast. Runs great routes. What can't he do? Doubs is sort of a poor mans Wicks in my book. He is the "least likely to fail, least likely to be the alpha" kinda guy. Reed will have a 100 catch season at some point in his career. Prototypical slot guy. Watson is simply so talented that rules don't apply to him. I've never seen a guy beat angles like he does. He's less polished than the others but it doesn't even matter. Maybe a Randy Moss comparison, but without the ball skills. Moss is the best I ever saw (when he wanted to be). I would say that 3 of these guys make one or more pro bowls at some point and Doubs will carve out a really nice little Donald Driver type career where he is never quite the man, but always doing the job.
I think you may be forgetting how good Driver was. He had 6 consecutive 1000+ yard seasons. I see Doubs as more of a James Jones-level receiver, which is great if he's your 4th most talented WR. I agree that Wicks has the potential to be a lot like what Adams was. I thought Reed would be a Cobb-type guy but he's more explosive than Cobb. He probably has as much in common with Jennings as he does with Cobb. When Watson was drafted, I thought he had the most potential to be a Randy Moss-type talent out of all the WR's in that great class. Still does if he's past the hamstring problems. It willbe interesting to see how long the Packers, with current WR salaries, can keep the group together. They had Driver, Jennings, Jordy and Jones together for 5 seasons (2008-2012).Quote:
Originally Posted by bobblehead
Completely agree. Consistent 700 yard seasons, probably plays 8 years in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joemailman
I remember how good driver was. He wasn't great though. He was good for a decade. A pros pro. Doubs plays nothing like Jones, he plays like Driver. Driver was also the main guy for a lot of years when he probably shouldn't have been. If you surround Doubs with guys like Malik Heath he will have 6 1k seasons also. You're probably right though. He isn't likely to quite be driver. More like 6 consecutive 800 yard seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joemailman
Joe and I weren’t saying he’s like Jones at all, just similar in production level. Doubs is a step slow and not big enough to be a possession guy. He won’t last past 30. That part is similar to Jones. But he’ll rack up a few thousand yards in 8 years.