Anyone watching tonite's Titian-Jaguar battle for southern subparity? Cos I'm not.
That pbmax has me confused. A Packers win plus a Cowboys win = playoffs for Packers? JSO, ESPN, CBSsports and JohnElwayIsAGod.com all say so.
Anyone watching tonite's Titian-Jaguar battle for southern subparity? Cos I'm not.
That pbmax has me confused. A Packers win plus a Cowboys win = playoffs for Packers? JSO, ESPN, CBSsports and JohnElwayIsAGod.com all say so.
Great game
The game went about as one might expect.
Two teams struggling for or to avoid all the hype associated with owning the NO. 1 Draft Pick.
One team Tennessee better on 'O' than the other Jacksonville with a superior 'D' and at home.
Question:
Which team do you pick when straws separate them in overall efficiency?
Right !
That team won the game.
NFL.com still says nope. The only way a Cowboys win puts the Pack in this week is if its combined with an Eagles loss OR combined with a Packers and Eagles games both ending in a tie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister
The Packers clinch a playoff spot with:
1) a win plus an Eagles loss or tie
2) a win plus a Cowboys loss or tie
3) a tie plus an Eagles loss
4) a tie plus an Eagles tie and a Cowboys win or tie
5) an Eagles loss plus a Cowboys win or tie.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ffpicture_news
fans care about this crap. Players on the field really don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by woodbuck27
I think you are mixing it up, if I'm understanding. The scenario above is an or situation. A Packers win + Eagles loss gets the Packers in OR Packers win + Cowboys win. If the Cowboys win or Eagles lose, the Cowboys clinch the East. The Packers own the tiebreaker against the Eagles.Quote:
Originally Posted by pbmax
That is what ESPN is saying. But that chart is a list of OR scenarios that are separate scenarios each.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers
Packers can clinch if Eagles lose AND Cowboys win or tie.
Packers can clinch with tie AND Eagles loss.
Packers can clinch with tie AND Eagles tie and Cowboys win or tie.
The only way a Cowboys win gets the Packers in (regardless of what Pack does) is if Eagles lose or tie.
These also involve Packers:
The Lions clinch the NFC North with: a win and a Packers loss.
The Lions clinch a first-round bye with a win, a Packers loss and a Cowboys loss.
The Cowboys clinch a playoff berth with: a win plus a Packers loss or tie plus a Lions loss or tie as long as both results don't tie.
A Cowboys win plus an Eagles win would force a Packers win to clinch. The Cowboys clinch the East but if the Packers lose out and the Eagles win out the Packers are out out.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers
I'd say it's likely the Eagles win out vs. the dysfunctional and possibly checked-out Skins and Giants remaining.
My head hurts.
"Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist; but football is only two things - blocking and tackling."
- Dan Devine
take some ibuprofenQuote:
Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25521617
Oh boy, "Enhanced Longevity." But will I get to feel like I'm 80 again?Quote:
Originally Posted by mraynrand
1) We're not talking about the Packers losing out.Quote:
Originally Posted by vince
2) We're talking about scenarios where Dallas wins + Green Bay wins this week. pbmax had stated a Dallas win + Green Bay win doesn't guarantee a playoff spot for Green Bay. According to ESPN's playoff machine, if the Cowboys win this week and we win, we are in. Let's say Dallas, Philadelphia, and Green Bay all win this week. Dallas and GB at 11-4 with Philly at 10-5. If we lose next week, we'll be 11-5. If Dallas and Philadelphia win next week, the Cowboys we'll win the East at 12-4. Green Bay would own the tiebreaker over Philly by virtue of their win over Philly. GB would be a Wild Card. If Dallas loses and Philly wins next week, the Eagles we'll win the East. The tiebreaker with Dallas would flip to Green Bay by virtue of a better conference record. GB would be a Wild Card. If Philly loses next week, we'd have a better record. GB would be a Wild Card. I just don't see a scenario where GB doesn't make the playoffs with a win + Dallas win this week.
The nice thing is, rooting for a Dallas win isn't rooting against a first round bye. Dallas would own the tiebreaker over us if we lost a game because our conference record would be the same as Dallas but they own the next tiebreaker. However, if we win out, we own the tiebreaker on the basis of a better conference record.
Go Green Bay and Go Dallas!
That explains a lot about Devine actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
You have to figure in a three way tie to wild card scenarios. Presumably, possibly remotely, there is a 3 team scenario where the Packers H2H win over Philly doesn't get them through.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers
Here we go. Now, recognize that it took me 8 minutes of fiddling to produce a 4 way tie for the wild card at 11-5 and the odds of the Packers making the playoffs today, before the result at Tampa is know is roughly 93%. But a GB win plus a Dallas win this week does NOT clinch a playoff spot. But regardless, their chances of being in the postseason are good. Winning at this point is more about the 2 seed than the 6 seed, versus making the tourney at this point.
EDIT: I did have a screen shot all cued up of the Packers and Cowboys both winning in Week 16 and Packers getting the tie breaking shaft at 11-5 but I screen capped Week 17 by mistake. Going back, the only way to get that scenario was to have Dallas lose out of conference this week (16) but win in conference next week (17). I could not create a scenario where the Packers were out if they and the Boys won this week.
It might be that a tie is necessary to produce that condition. And the playoff calculator doesn't do ties.
THIS IS JUST AWESOME !Quote:
Originally Posted by woodbuck27
Check this out. It's so much better to win.
Posted: 17 hours ago
EXCLUSIVE: Gus Bradley Postgame Speech
Go inside the locker room as the Jaguars celebrate their win over the Titans on Thursday Night Football.
http://www.jaguars.com/media-gallery...d-8394dc5ac1fb
and In more Jaguars news;
Jacksonville QB Blake Bortles wants to start in spite of any lingering injury just like Brett Favre did.
He wants to chase Favre NFL consecutive starts streak record.
I want to be reincarnated and live a life like Mr. Jean Beliveau did.
Well stated.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers