2015: Perry and Neal Contract Drive

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08-01-2015, 06:47 PM
pbmax

2015: Perry and Neal Contract Drive

Perry is healthy. He will obviously stay that way. Ergo, great year, new deal with the Packers by Week 9.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...2014/31001091/

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Perry played in 17 games last season (including playoffs), but suffered in silence through most of it. He first injured the shoulder on special teams early in the season, though his name didn't show up on the injury report until the week leading up to a Week 12 game in Minnesota.

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Perry doesn't know if he'll wear a harness on the surgically repaired shoulder this season, but is keeping it on as a precautionary measure in training camp. Back in pads, Perry is working to get back into a rhythm.

No problem. These shoulder things don't normally linger.
08-02-2015, 11:47 AM
Patler

One article said his shoulder was so bad, that he gained immense respect in the locker room for playing with it, making no excuses and playing as well as he did.
08-03-2015, 08:20 AM
Fritz

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Originally Posted by Patler

One article said his shoulder was so bad, that he gained immense respect in the locker room for playing with it, making no excuses and playing as well as he did.

But that does not fit with the still-lingering notion that Perry is disgruntled because he wants to play DE and that he's a soft player who babies himself.

Nick Perry, still the mystery man. I am afraid this shoulder thing will do him in, but I always rooted for him.
08-03-2015, 10:26 PM
run pMc

I think all the "wants to be a DE" stuff should be put to bed. He's been an OLB for a couple of years now, until he plays for another team or GB switches to a 4-3 he'll be an OLB. I haven't heard a peep about him complaining about being an OLB once he was drafted...I think it's fans with long memories hanging onto a reason or justification to rag on the guy. He has talent, but he's been hurt so much you wonder what the deal is. He plays hurt, maybe he's injury prone?

I like him as roster depth, but he could be replaced without too much trouble.
08-03-2015, 10:37 PM
pbmax

Right now his greatest value is that he is the anti-Walden. When Perry sets an edge, it stays set. His run defense is superb, he doesn't get moved.
08-03-2015, 10:42 PM
Bretsky

Did Perry even play last year ? I'm not sure he was noticeable
08-04-2015, 09:23 AM
pbmax

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Originally Posted by Bretsky

Did Perry even play last year ? I'm not sure he was noticeable

Remember the better run defense in the second half of last year? That was in large part due to Perry on the outside. Matthews contributed in a lot of ways, but run D discipline picked up when Perry came in.

By the numbers, he is just a guy. This is a case where the numbers don't tell the main part of the story.
08-04-2015, 09:34 AM
mraynrand

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Originally Posted by pbmax

Remember the better run defense in the second half of last year? That was in large part due to Perry on the outside. Matthews contributed in a lot of ways, but run D discipline picked up when Perry came in.

By the numbers, he is just a guy. This is a case where the numbers don't tell the main part of the story.

He's just a better run stopping DE/OLB than pass rusher. And the Packers just used him to his strengths. Less flashy, but better productivity and defensive performance overall. SOUND!
08-04-2015, 09:43 PM
run pMc

From what I can tell, he's strong enough to set the edge against the run. He has one pass rush move -- a bull rush. When he gets to the QB he hits like a hammer and has forced fumbles. He's stiff in space so you don't want him doing a lot of drops into coverage.
Not sure he's starter level, but you could do worse. Biggest knock is he can't stay healthy. I give him credit for playing hurt and not complaining.
08-05-2015, 07:58 AM
Fritz

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Originally Posted by run pMc

From what I can tell, he's strong enough to set the edge against the run. He has one pass rush move -- a bull rush. When he gets to the QB he hits like a hammer and has forced fumbles. He's stiff in space so you don't want him doing a lot of drops into coverage.
Not sure he's starter level, but you could do worse. Biggest knock is he can't stay healthy. I give him credit for playing hurt and not complaining.

This.

I have read elsewhere that Perry has only one rush move. This leads me to wonder what the reasons or reasons are that he has yet to develop another one or two, which would greatly increase his value.
08-05-2015, 08:30 AM
pbmax

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Originally Posted by Fritz

This.

I have read elsewhere that Perry has only one rush move. This leads me to wonder what the reasons or reasons are that he has yet to develop another one or two, which would greatly increase his value.

If you have one good move, and he does, it doesn't seem like that great a leap to develop a counter. But he might be the kind of kid that needs to do all that training and learning on the field. And between injuries and job sharing, he might not have reached critical mass. But even if that is true, its mighty late in the game.

You'd like to see him get one solid season to work out the kinks, but he cannot get out of his own way.
10-12-2015, 08:15 PM
pbmax

Well, Perry contract extension still seems possible, but not by Week 9 now.
10-12-2015, 08:34 PM
hoosier

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Originally Posted by pbmax

Perry is healthy. He will obviously stay that way. Ergo, great year, new deal with the Packers by Week 9.

No problem. These shoulder things don't normally linger.

Wow, you really got him good, didn't you?
10-12-2015, 08:55 PM
Joemailman

Somebody shoot PB if he tries to say something about Clay's hamstrings or Arod's calf.
10-12-2015, 10:43 PM
pbmax

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Originally Posted by hoosier

Wow, you really got him good, didn't you?

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Originally Posted by Joemailman

Somebody shoot PB if he tries to say something about Clay's hamstrings or Arod's calf.

:D

First of all, that health comment was sarcasm.

I also resent the (absolutely correct) implication that I am in some way inaccurate.

But I was close about a contract extension until this week.
10-12-2015, 11:37 PM
Pugger

Has there been a report on what kind of injury Perry has now? :sad:
10-12-2015, 11:44 PM
Joemailman

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Originally Posted by Pugger

Has there been a report on what kind of injury Perry has now? :sad:

Had his left arm in a sling. I'm guessing a sprain. Injury report Wednesday.
10-13-2015, 06:01 AM
Fritz

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Originally Posted by Joemailman

Had his left arm in a sling. I'm guessing a sprain. Injury report Wednesday.

Could one of the md's on this board let us know how long he'll be out if it's a sprain?
10-13-2015, 07:49 AM
hoosier

Sling could be anything: rotator cuff, dislocation, separation, clavicle.
10-13-2015, 09:26 AM
sharpe1027

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Originally Posted by Fritz

Could one of the md's on this board let us know how long he'll be out if it's a sprain?

I am not a doctor, but I would guess it would be somewhere between 1 week and career ending.
10-13-2015, 10:27 AM
Fritz

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Originally Posted by sharpe1027

I am not a doctor, but I would guess it would be somewhere between 1 week and career ending.

You're sounding like an NFL coach right there.
10-13-2015, 11:33 AM
pbmax

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Originally Posted by Fritz

You're sounding like an NFL coach right there.

He tweaked it. Day to day, possibly for 364 days.
10-13-2015, 07:23 PM
Joemailman

Perry expected to be out 2-4 weeks with sprain of AC joint. Could be back after bye. http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/332562292.html
10-13-2015, 07:44 PM
hoosier

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Originally Posted by Joemailman

Perry expected to be out 2-4 weeks with sprain of AC joint. Could be back after bye. http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/332562292.html

Assuming it is accurate, that's better than I was expecting.
10-13-2015, 08:25 PM
smuggler

I hope they sit Davante and Burnett against the Chargers
10-13-2015, 09:15 PM
pbmax

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Originally Posted by Joemailman

Perry expected to be out 2-4 weeks with sprain of AC joint. Could be back after bye. http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/332562292.html

Well it could have been worse. Bye comes at a good time for him.
10-13-2015, 09:20 PM
Bretsky

we need a back to back bye...lol.....I don't really care either way if they pay Perry...either way it'll be spending better money than keeping Brad Jones around
10-13-2015, 09:29 PM
sharpe1027

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Originally Posted by Joemailman

Perry expected to be out 2-4 weeks with sprain of AC joint. Could be back after bye. http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/332562292.html

Told you so.
10-13-2015, 11:04 PM
Joemailman

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Originally Posted by sharpe1027

I am not a doctor, but I would guess it would be somewhere between 1 week and career ending.

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Originally Posted by Joemailman

Perry expected to be out 2-4 weeks with sprain of AC joint. Could be back after bye. http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/332562292.html

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Originally Posted by sharpe1027

Told you so.

Gotta admit. You nailed it.
10-15-2015, 05:22 AM
Fritz

Both Caldwell in Detroit and MM seem to have become increasingly testy about giving any info about injuries at all. The usual line in Detroit when a reporter asks Caldwell about any injuries is "We'll find out when the injury report comes out on Wednesday," as if Caldwell himself doesn't know.

And the way the Lions' season is going, maybe he doesn't.
11-16-2015, 02:44 PM
red

are either of these 2 even on the roster anymore?

sure have been quiet except for maybe one game from perry
11-16-2015, 03:06 PM
mission

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Originally Posted by red

are either of these 2 even on the roster anymore?

sure have been quiet except for maybe one game from perry

Seems like Neal took 95% of the snaps yesterday
11-16-2015, 03:18 PM
red

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Originally Posted by mission

Seems like Neal took 95% of the snaps yesterday

neal, 1 tackle 3 assists no sacks

perry, 1 tackle 0 assists no sacks

peppers 3 tackles no assists no sacks

what looked like it would be a strength at one time really isn't doing a whole lot to impact the game
11-26-2015, 07:57 AM
pbmax

I think I might hit on one of these two predictions:

Jones is a slumpbuster: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...354264871.html

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Then, Capers kind of forgot about him and played him just 18 snaps against Denver and 16 against Carolina. His combined stats in those two games were three tackles, including one for loss.

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