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I discovered this site a couple days ago and it's addictive. It allows you to be TT and draft prospective Packer players through 7 rounds. The computer drafts for the other teams based on team needs and what "Big Board" you choose. (There are 7 or so Big Boards to choose from and what a difference depending on which one you choose.) It gives you a great prospective on what TT is faced with.
Great fun: http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/
yeah, i'm guessing i'm about to piss away a few weeks on this site
Very cool.
I gave it a whirl.....
Vikings:
1st - Trae Waynes - CB
2nd - Melvin Gordon - RB
Packers:
1st - Shaq Thompson - LB
2nd - Bobby Richardson - DT
I'm telling you it's really addictive. I find the "Detroit Lions" Big Board is really frustrating for drafting guys the Pack needs.
I've had that premium for the last couple months... pretty good. it'll be better once They throw in the comps
That was fun, how much is the premium?
Tried one or two, they seem to show Mariota dropping out of the top 10, and Gordon into the second round. Eric Kendricks, the ILB from UCLA has been on the board when the Pack picks, it's be more than fine with that.
I want to say like $7.95 or something. I think that's good for the whole year...
It may have been only $5. I got my money's worth either way...
Thanks for that link Maxie. Running through those drafts really pounds home how so many guys you like at positions of need get snatched up by other teams. It makes you want to over-draft guys you think you know.
It seems like the 2nd and 3rd rounds are where the value lies throughout the defensive positions. In the drafts I ran through on the site, that's where the corners and ILB's seem to be going. Then, once you get past those rounds, the value drops at those positions because so many other teams value those spots too. I couldn't get a value pick at OLB to save my life in any round.
If things fall the way they tend to on that site, I wouldn't mind TT trading out of the first to pick up another day 2 pick and maybe trading up into the 2nd or 3rd with a couple lower picks as well.
I don't think there are many spots on the offense for a rookie to break in besides TE and maybe a blazing slot/returner. Maybe find a guard you can stash on the 53 and not suit up all year. 3rd string RB maybe but that seems to me like a waste of a pick... QB project I suppose - though I didn't see a QB drop (based on the various lists I used) in any of the drafts I conducted either.
Hopefully TT loads up on D. Hell I'd even take another safety that can play.
Stock up on day 2 picks and make it rain TT. That or do what you usually do and let the board come to you - and find the gems I've never heard about later on.
I agree with vince. It's contingent on another team wanting to make a deal, but getting a 45 overall and a 77 overall for 30 would be awesome.
I just ran a 7 round mock with the Detroit Big Board and it rolled out like this... Rd 1. ILB Stephone Anthony CLEMSON
Rd 2. DT Eddie Goldman FSU
Rd 3. ILB B. Mckinney Mississippi St.
Rd 4. WR/TE D. Funchess Mich
Rd 5. CB Senquez Golson Mississippi
Rd 6. WR Chris Conley Georgia
Rd 7. ILB Jake Ryan Mich
Anybody ok with a draft like this? hahaha
^ hope we take a CB before the 5th round :grin:
I'm betting first or second round, depending on who falls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon494
For shits and giggles I did a mock draft with the Detroit Big Board...
30: R1P30
CB KEVIN JOHNSON
WAKE FOREST
62: R2P30
DT EDDIE GOLDMAN
FLORIDA STATE
94: R3P30
ILB BENARDRICK MCKINNEY
MISSISSIPPI STATE
126: R4P30
CB ALEX CARTER
STANFORD
158: R5P30
WR CHRIS CONLEY
GEORGIA
190: R6P30
TE BEN KOYACK
NOTRE DAME
222: R7P30
ILB JAKE RYAN
MICHIGAN
Lmao just noticed we had 4 of the same picks...guess CPU drafts the same way each time.
yeah, thats gonna be the problem with a site like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Brandon494
it decides team needs and prioritizes them, so it's usually gonna draft the same way every time, the only thing thats gonna change is your picks, and the big board you choose.
and like we all know, 99% of the draft sites out there are just using each others info, so most of the big boards are gonna be pretty close
its a little surprising seeing that mckinney might be dropping so far so fast in some peoples opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by Brandon494
he's going from a first round pick in everyones mind a few weeks ago to being a second or 3rd rounder
on the flip side, one of my go-to sites now has perryman as the top ILB in the draft and a late 1st-early 2nd rounder
Crazy system...there was some insane talent left on the board at 30 depending on the board used. I ended up with the same 1st and 2nd picks as Brandon.
Goldman falling that far would be awesome. So long as we actually drafted him. Haha!
They already updated it to include the comp picks. Woo! My first draft, the Chiefs gave me their mid-2 and mid-3 and mid-6 picks for 30 overall. Done and done.
How good can a draft site be that doesn't have TT taking an offensive lineman?
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Originally Posted by First-Pick.com
Trouble with On the Clock and First-Pick are... you get completely unrealistic results.Quote:
Originally Posted by fanspeak.com/ontheclock/
Hopefully TT and Company are much smarter than me....used Mike Miller from Bleacher Report:
30: R1P30 CB RONALD DARBY FLORIDA STATE
62: R2P30 CB BYRON JONES CONNECTICUT
94: R3P30 WR SAMMIE COATES AUBURN
129: R4P30 TE JEFF HEUERMAN OHIO STATE
166: R5P30 ILB MIKE HULL PENN STATE
205: R6P30 DT DAVID PARRY STANFORD
210: R6P35 DT DERRICK LOTT TENNESSEE-CHATTANOGA
212: R6P37 OT COREY ROBINSON SOUTH CAROLINA
247: R7P30 ILB BRYCE HAGER BAYLOR
Did it ONLY on best player available using top 5 left and then according to team needs. With Millers board, no ILB left in the first round.
I'm not sure about drafting Oscar Goldman
http://www.bugeyedmonster.com/toys/s...boxedlarge.jpg
He would make a heckuva a scout.
Golson would be a hell of a lot more attractive if he were 3 inches taller...
Sure he would....but I hate it when a player is immediately crossed off the board because they are 2 inches shorter than an "optimal" height.Quote:
Originally Posted by smuggler
I would take him, but in round 4 or so... Instead of round 2.
I like Nelson more.
The perfect Packer Mock Draft, using the CBS Big Board:
30:ILB STEPHONE ANTHONY
CLEMSON
62:CB JALEN COLLINS
LSU
94:DT LETERRIUS WALTON
CENTRAL MICHIGAN
129:WR/TE DARREN WALLER
GEORGIA TECH
166:CB/QB/PR NICK MARSHALL
AUBURN
206:CB/PR CRAIG MAGER
TEXAS STATE
210:ILB/FB JEFF LUC
CINCINNATI
213:QB BRYAN BENNETT
SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA
247:RB/KR/PR MARCUS MURPHY
MISSOURI
NOTES:
*Anthony is the cream of the ILB crop this year. Just watch his tape.
*Collins is a potential All Pro CB.
*Walton is quick as hell at 6'5" 316 pounds.
* Waller ran a 4.40 at the Combine. He's a Jermichael Finley clone, but faster. Talk about a threat down the seam. Can you say Red Zone?
* Stubby wants to run more of the pistol. Gus Malzahn has called Marshall the best zone read QB in college football. Marshall has a canon for an arm. He plays a decent CB but I believe he can play a great QB under Fat Mike's tutoring. Another Red Zone weapon.
*Mager was one of the fastest CB's at the Combine.
*Luc is a throwback, run stopper/thumper. His tape looks good. And if he doesn't work out at ILB, he's able to take over for John Kuhn.
*Brett...I mean Bryan Bennett is Favresque. He's got a canon arm and can scramble. Played for Chip Kelly.
*Murphy is not only a great, pass catching RB, he's probably the best KR/PR man in the nation.
I'd be happy with something similar to this...
30: ILB DENZEL PERRYMAN, MIAMI (FLA.)
He might be “height challenged,” but is stout at the point of attack, possessing an athletic physique, good straight-line closing speed.
62: CB BYRON JONES, CONNECTICUT
Jones is a quick decision maker with not only elite diagnosis ability on screens, but also shows the proper angle technique to be effective taking on ball carriers.
94: DT GRADY JARRETT, CLEMSON
A physical force vs. the inside running game, as he posted ten stops-for-loss and 12 QB pressures, finishing third on the team with 73 tackles as a senior.
129: OT TY SAMBRAILO, COLORADO STATE
Any team that drafts him can expect to get a, Reliable and hardworking offensive lineman, someone who’s coming in right away who wants to contribute.
166: TE JESSE JAMES, PENN STATE
He's a freak. ... He's got speed, he's got strength, he's got agility, he's got size.
206: DE CEDRIC REED, TEXAS
Will crash down the line of scrimmage to attack running plays when left unblocked on the open side. Can be disruptive with inside pass-rush moves.
210: QB CODY FAJARDO, NEVADA
There are two quarterbacks in NCAA history who rushed for over 3,000 yards in their collegiate careers, while also passing for at least 9,000.
213: DE COREY CRAWFORD, CLEMSON
At 6'5 and boasting an enormous wingspan, Crawford's length allows him to make up for a somewhat pedestrian first step.
247: ILB BRYCE HAGER, BAYLOR
Rapid read-react to locate the ball. Very disciplined in reading his keys and reacting to the ball.
I'm not an expert on anything related to the draft or college football, but doesn't current groupthink have the first two swapped with Jones in Round 1 and Perryman in Round 2?Quote:
Originally Posted by jklowan
30: R1P30
ILB ERIC KENDRICKS
UCLA
62: R2P30
TE MAXX WILLIAMS
MINNESOTA
94: R3P30
CB JOSH SHAW
USC
129: R4P30
CB SENQUEZ GOLSON
MISSISSIPPI
166: R5P30
ILB BRYCE HAGER
BAYLOR
206: R6P30
RB COREY GRANT
AUBURN
210: R6P34
G BEN BECKWITH
MISSISSIPPI STATE
213: R6P37
QB TAYLOR HEINICKE
OLD DOMINION
247: R7P30
WR DEON LONG
MARYLAND
I'd be happy with this. You don't think he's gonna drop this far, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by theeaterofshades
I'd really be surprised if Maxx Williams made it down to 62, but Troy Niklas went in the mid-2nd (picked right before we took Dae Adams in the 2nd by the Cardinals), so it's not impossible he might drop.