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UCLA Football: NFL Draft Profile - DT Kenny Clark
By Joe Piechowski on Apr 27, 2016, 9:33p
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UCLA Football: NFL Draft Profile - DT Kenny Clark
By Joe Piechowski on Apr 27, 2016, 9:33p
Kenny Clark only 20.
He's set up for life, his daddy is doing life.
Let's wait til they strap on the pads.
Interior DL takes a long time for a young-un to get proficient.
KYPack:Quote:
Originally Posted by KYPack
Does the fact he has short arms bother you at all ?
McGinn's report on Clark
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2. KENNY CLARK, UCLA (6-2 ½, 312, 5.07, 1): Third-year junior, two-year starter. “He can use a four-point stance and he’ll two-gap the center,” said one scout. “He keeps his balance and doesn’t get rolled up real easy. But you can move him over a man and he drops that back leg and he has some quickness. I don’t know that he’s a star but he’s a good player.” Was able to maintain separation despite short arms (32 1/8). “I think the wrestling background helps when it comes to his leverage,” said a second scout. “Space eater. He’s about leverage.” Finished with 159 tackles (20 for loss) and 6 ½ sacks. “He’s innately tough, strong and mature,” a third scout said. From San Bernardino, Calif. “I think he can rush passer,” said a fourth scout. “He is an outstanding defensive tackle. He can handle the doubles and invert the nose. Does it all the time.”
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"Good player," an NFC personnel director said. "He's probably got the best blend of athletic ability and strength."
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Should an NFL team be concerned about the son given the background of the father?
"I'm not worried about that; he's separated from that," an executive in personnel for a team said Wednesday. "He's a grown man. He's a great person. I know some of his coaches that absolutely love this kid."
Wes Hodkiewicz @WesHod 31m31 minutes ago
Kenny Clark joins Mike Daniels as former wrestlers on the d-line. Mike Trgovac also was a former state champion #Packers
Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 35m35 minutes ago
Thompson: "There are all different kind of scenarios that you look at. People call about trade possibilities or trade scenarios."
Green Bay Packers @packers 36m36 minutes ago
Thompson on Kenny Clark: He seemed very excited about being a Packer when I spoke to him on the phone. #PackersDraft
Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 30m30 minutes ago
Thompson on Clark: "He's excited about being in the NFL. He's dying to show us that this was a good pick and that he's a good player."
Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 27m27 minutes ago
Thompson on trades: "We took a few calls. We didn't ever get to a position where we wanted to pursue that. But we had some conversations."
Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 37m37 minutes ago
Thompson praises Kenny Clark for being a team captain as a third-year junior.
Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 38m38 minutes ago
Thompson says #Packers were "very excited" to get Kenny Clark at No. 27. "We weren't sure we'd have that opportunity."
Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 31m31 minutes ago
Thompson on trades: "We took a few calls. We didn't ever get to a position where we wanted to pursue that. But we had some conversations."
Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 22m22 minutes ago
Clark: "I had an interview with the #Packers at the combine. That's pretty much what I remember. I didn't have a visit or workout."
Packer Report @PackerReport 21m21 minutes ago
Kenny Clark says he likes to watch Ngata and Atkins. Mentioned Mike Daniels to me at Combine.
Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 19m19 minutes ago
Clark: "I'm a football player at the end of the day. Whether it's weather or wherever I live at, that doesn't matter. I'm ready to play."
Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 18m18 minutes ago
Clark: "I always played defensive line since I was younger, and I was getting bigger and bigger every year. D-line was a primary position."
Packer Report @PackerReport 18m18 minutes ago
And the conference call ends with his agent saying can we please end it because he has 300 people there and some of them are elderly.
Somewhat. A short armed 20 yr old kid? That is some worries.Quote:
Originally Posted by woodbuck27
He's got one of the best hand fighters in the league playing next to him, that should give him some tips, hints, & helps.
6.5 sacks? That's good in any league. QB heat from an interior DL is solid gold for any line coach.
Let's see what he's got.
Mebbe McGinn does know where the bear shits in the buckwheat.
I did NOT want an interior D Lineman - but it was predictable that is what they would take. Hopefully this turns out well, but I smell a new Raji.
Would they have made this pick if Raji had re-signed with them?
Perhaps. With D. Jones moving to OLB the only other DL on the roster are Daniels, Boyd, Ringo, Guion and Pennell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
The Packer player he most reminds me of is Justin Harrell...
He's young, and doesn't have an injury history... so they'll plug him in on the line, and we'll forget about him. He's just not much of a play maker.
And for the record - moving Datone Jones to LB is nothing short of idiotic... reminds me of the year they tried to play Kampman and Thompson at OLB. That proved disasterous, and this will too... these guys are nothing if not consistent.
Seems like a reach and a project. And I'm not sure his peak is anything special. We should be looking for players that can contribute and be effective right away. We also had an opportunity to draft the most talented d-lineman in the draft, and didn't because of character questions. Hope that doesn't come back and bite us.
I'm not sure how you can call it a reach when McGinn's ranking puts Clark as the #2 DT, behind only Reed and ahead of the likes of Robinson, Rankins, Billings, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by yetisnowman
Well those are McGinn's rankings. It's just my opinion. I don't think he's a first round talent. Most scouts had several tackles ranked higher than Clark that were still on the board. Would love to be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
McGinn actually goes off what the scouts he has access to say (and his network of scouts probably extends further than any media folks). Bob doesn't do the evaluations himself. Most of the "scouts" you speak of aren't scouts that have an NFL job, and there's a lot of group think.Quote:
Originally Posted by yetisnowman
I think we were having this same converation last year regarding Damarious Randall.
Let's not forget Cledius Hunt and Jerel Worthy and Jamal Reynolds. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by wist43
I know you're being facetious, but in terms of his build and movement - he does remind me of Justin Harrell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
At least we got one good season out of Hunt...
I'm thinking 1265 should just give up trying to draft DL in the 1st round... they're just not very good at it.
Just as I'm sure were having similar conversations about Harrell, Sherrod, Datone, etc.....Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers
Hope it works out, but it's fair to be skeptical.
I am wishing they'd have traded back, maybe with Denver, and gotten that extra third that Seattle did. They still could've gotten a good defensive lineman at that spot.
But it's all just speculation. We can pronounce all we want, but nobody will really know for a couple years for sure.
I wish. He's three inches shorter than Harrell. Harrell was a super large man, even if his weight was around 300. Just couldn't get past the injuries.Quote:
Originally Posted by wist43
I think at least it shows that they didn't have him rated the same as the tackles taken by AZ or Carolina. IF they did, they probably trade back. But trades take two to tango - I assume Denver contacted the Packers, but maybe not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
What would have been funny is if Dallas had traded with GB before they knew the Broncos moved up. :)
What Harvey said.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangersMcGinn actually goes off what the scouts he has access to say (and his network of scouts probably extends further than any media folks). Bob doesn't do the evaluations himself. Most of the "scouts" you speak of aren't scouts that have an NFL job, and there's a lot of group think.Quote:
Originally Posted by yetisnowmanWell those are McGinn's rankings. It's just my opinion. I don't think he's a first round talent. Most scouts had several tackles ranked higher than Clark that were still on the board. Would love to be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
I am not a fan of McGinn's own opinion pieces, but I have always respected what he does concerning the draft. It seems that over the years he as managed to gather enough dirt or something on actual team scouts that they are willing to give him rather detailed opinions, and he filters through their conflicting remarks to achieve a combined analysis that has earned him great respect in the media. ESPN and other places refer to his draft pieces quite regularly, and he has won many awards for having the most accurate first round predictions.
As much as I dislike the bulk of McGinn's work, he really shines for a couple weeks before the draft, when he is not using his own analysis but the combined works of an apparently large and quite competent network of individuals who scout the college players for a living.
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The Packers fielded calls from teams looking to acquire their choice. "We didn't ever get into a position where we wanted to pursue that," said Thompson.
Clark is listed at 6' 3" or 6' 2 1/2" depending on where you look, ... you're saying Harrell was 6' 5 1/2"??Quote:
Originally Posted by mraynrand
yeah, I think so. At least 6'5" I thought Clark was 6'2"Quote:
Originally Posted by wist43
Harrell always looked huge around the other linemen.
We're desperate for DL help, so Clark will get on the field immediately... he'll be a servicable player, but given that Billings, Robinson, Butler, Dodd, and Ragland were all still there, it's an underwhelming pick.
I liked all of those guys better than Clark.
Harrell was listed at 6'4, and Clark is listed at 6'3... 3-4=3?? The new math??Quote:
Originally Posted by mraynrand
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...H/HarrJu99.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by wist43
I'm glad Clark is 6'3"
With his heart issue I can understand why Ragland wasn't taken in the first by anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by wist43
The Packers and NFL both listed Harrell at 6'4...Quote:
Originally Posted by mraynrand
To me, Clark and Harrell look very similar in how they move. Similar body type, neither possessing any special traits. Clark will be a decent player; but, I liked at least 5-6 other guys better.
Sometimes you can see the work he does to balance opinions when you see the disconnect between the headline/lede paragraph and the ranking. One of the position rankings he put out this year was three paragraphs of doubt about a guy and then in the rankings he was listed first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
You have to remember even a 1,500 word article is leaving a lot out.
No, not with another year to test run Pennell, Boyd and Ringo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
Pre-injury, wasn't Harrell flashing in spurts? Considering it takes DL a year or two to develop in the NFL, that's what you look for. I still think Harrell could've been something except for his back injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by wist43
Before he hurt his back, yes. He could rag doll Guards. He wasn't Wilfork strong, but he was going to be fine one on one. Not much pass rush beside push, but he looked legit until the injuries, especially his back, went out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smidgeon
And his weight issues, and his tearing his ACL, and his torn bicep, toe fungus, hangnails...Quote:
Originally Posted by Smidgeon
His career is like Delta Airlines' motto: "It's always something"
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=15424227
Video and commentary from some dude at ESPN.
Interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PijY82UGeYo
In his spare time he co-invented BeBop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjS39J5QHA4