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oregonpackfan All-wet Rat

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: FBI investigated Max McGee for gambling |
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Records through the Freedom of Information Act recently revealed that Packer Great Max McGee was investigated by the FBI for gambling.
The investigation period was late '72 through '73. The FBI had a tip that McGee might have been a bookmaker.
The investigation was finally stopped due to lack of evidence. McGee was never charged with any form of gambling crime.
http://www6.comcast.net/sports/articles/nfl/2008/03/02/Max.McGee-FBI/ |
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Patler Stat Rat

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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I heard this on the radio today. "Releases" like this kind of bother me. He was investigated, so what? They found nothing to charge him on. He may have done absolutely nothing wrong, but now there is an implication.
I wonder if he was even aware of the investigation? Could one of us or those we know have been investigated at one time or another for something, and not even known it? |
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packinpatland Sophisticated Rat

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Patler wrote: | I heard this on the radio today. "Releases" like this kind of bother me. He was investigated, so what? They found nothing to charge him on. He may have done absolutely nothing wrong, but now there is an implication.
I wonder if he was even aware of the investigation? Could one of us or those we know have been investigated at one time or another for something, and not even known it? |
In this case I say.........let the sleeping dog lie. |
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Patler Stat Rat

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| packinpatland wrote: | | Patler wrote: | I heard this on the radio today. "Releases" like this kind of bother me. He was investigated, so what? They found nothing to charge him on. He may have done absolutely nothing wrong, but now there is an implication.
I wonder if he was even aware of the investigation? Could one of us or those we know have been investigated at one time or another for something, and not even known it? |
In this case I say.........let the sleeping dog lie. |
Exactly. The investigated him 25 years ago. Why does something like that have to be made public now? |
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Harlan Huckleby Founder Rat

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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luckily the statute of limitations has run out. _________________ Your anger is delicious. |
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MJZiggy MicroRat

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Patler wrote: | | packinpatland wrote: | | Patler wrote: | I heard this on the radio today. "Releases" like this kind of bother me. He was investigated, so what? They found nothing to charge him on. He may have done absolutely nothing wrong, but now there is an implication.
I wonder if he was even aware of the investigation? Could one of us or those we know have been investigated at one time or another for something, and not even known it? |
In this case I say.........let the sleeping dog lie. |
Exactly. The investigated him 25 years ago. Why does something like that have to be made public now? |
Because he can no longer defend himself? It was probably made public because some reporter just stumbled across it, but it didn't need to be reported. _________________ Let us not seek the Republican answer or the Democratic answer, but the right answer. Let us not seek to fix the blame for the past. Let us accept our own responsibility for the future. -- John F. Kennedy |
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Patler Stat Rat

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Harlan Huckleby wrote: | | luckily the statute of limitations has run out. |
Ya, all that evidence they didn't find would really put him at risk otherwise!  |
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Harlan Huckleby Founder Rat

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| MJZiggy wrote: | | It was probably made public because some reporter just stumbled across it, but it didn't need to be reported. |
Are you busting oregon's balls?
Ahh, heck, it needs to be reported. I want to read about, there's the need. Celebrities get to live in fancy houses and drink fancy beers, a few embarassing news reports is not such a high price to pay. _________________ Your anger is delicious. |
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Patler Stat Rat

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| MJZiggy wrote: | | Patler wrote: | | packinpatland wrote: | | Patler wrote: | I heard this on the radio today. "Releases" like this kind of bother me. He was investigated, so what? They found nothing to charge him on. He may have done absolutely nothing wrong, but now there is an implication.
I wonder if he was even aware of the investigation? Could one of us or those we know have been investigated at one time or another for something, and not even known it? |
In this case I say.........let the sleeping dog lie. |
Exactly. The investigated him 25 years ago. Why does something like that have to be made public now? |
Because he can no longer defend himself? It was probably made public because some reporter just stumbled across it, but it didn't need to be reported. |
It surely did not need to be reported, as you said. After all, they found no evidence sufficient for charges. I wonder if the original source for this article is one that doesn't name names of subjects of current investigations unless charges are filed? If that is their policy, why name one 35 years old? |
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oregonpackfan All-wet Rat

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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At least the FBI did not charge McGee or fabricate evidence against him. Part of my reason for posting this tidbit is that we Americans have to be very careful that our intelligence agencies do not abuse their investigative powers.
A prime example of FBI misuse of power happened to Brandon Mayfield in 2004. When the bombing of a Madrid, Spain subway occurred, the FBI arrested Brandon Mayfield, a 37 year old lawyer from Portland, OR. The entire Portland Metro area was shocked.
The FBI alleged that fingerprints belonging to Mayfield were found on a detonation bag. Using elements of The Patriot Act, Mayfield was arrested, his office and home were searched and bugged. He was kept in prison for two weeks.
It turns out that the Spanish enforcement officials had warned the FBI before Mayfield's arrest that the prints were similar to Mayfield's but were not a match.
It turns out that the major "Crimes" Mayfield committed was that he had married an Egyptian Muslim woman and converted to the Muslim faith. Mayfield had never even traveled to Spain and had no connection to any form of terrorists group.
Mayfield later sued the FBI and the Federal government winning an apology and a $2 million settlement. For more info read on:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/29/AR2006112901179.html |
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falco Casual Rat

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| oregonpackfan wrote: | At least the FBI did not charge McGee or fabricate evidence against him. Part of my reason for posting this tidbit is that we Americans have to be very careful that our intelligence agencies do not abuse their investigative powers.
A prime example of FBI misuse of power happened to Brandon Mayfield in 2004. When the bombing of a Madrid, Spain subway occurred, the FBI arrested Brandon Mayfield, a 37 year old lawyer from Portland, OR. The entire Portland Metro area was shocked.
The FBI alleged that fingerprints belonging to Mayfield were found on a detonation bag. Using elements of The Patriot Act, Mayfield was arrested, his office and home were searched and bugged. He was kept in prison for two weeks.
It turns out that the Spanish enforcement officials had warned the FBI before Mayfield's arrest that the prints were similar to Mayfield's but were not a match.
It turns out that the major "Crimes" Mayfield committed was that he had married an Egyptian Muslim woman and converted to the Muslim faith. Mayfield had never even traveled to Spain and had no connection to any form of terrorists group.
Mayfield later sued the FBI and the Federal government winning an apology and a $2 million settlement. For more info read on:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/29/AR2006112901179.html |
well put OPF. at least in this particular case it was nice to see the government was held at least partially responsible. _________________ Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006 |
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Scott Campbell Polygamist Rat

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| Some might be bothered by this sort of accusation, but I have a hunch old Max would get a kick out of it. |
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Badgerinmaine Rat Moose

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with OPF--and yes, of course one could be under investigation without knowing it. I don't think the FBI always calls members of organized crime families to say "Hey, just a heads-up here, but we're checking you out, so watch yourself for a while". _________________ Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate.
Vince Lombardi |
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