No way, it was the Jews.Originally Posted by Partial
But what else do you know for sure?
No way, it was the Jews.
But what else do you know for sure?
Partial is the Right Wing Tank. Or maybe he is Tank.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Partial, Clinton's balancing budget had nothing to do with the United States being attacked in the 9/11 tragedy!
Of those 19 terrorists on those 4 hijacked planes, NONE were from Iraq. Fifteen of them were from Saudi Arabia. Osama bin Laden, the alleged leader of al-Qaida is from Saudi Arabia. On September 11, 2001 the Arab country with the most al-Qaida training camps was Saudi Arabia.
The United States chose to not hold Saudi Arabia accountable because it is the #1 importer of foreign oil to the United States. Securing Iraqi oil is what this war is all about.
The President's own bipartisan 9/11 Commission reported that Saddam Hussain had nothing to do with the 9/11 tragedy nor with al-Qaida. In fact, on September 11, 2001 there was NO al-Qaida in Iraq.
The United States has a $475 billion defense budget which is more than the rest of the world COMBINED! That's right, if you take the defense budgets of the rest of the countries in the world(including China, India, and Russia) add them up, you will find that the USA spends more on defense than the total sum of the rest of the world.
Our year expense of about $145 billion a year for the war in Iraq is NOT included in the annual defense budget. It is ADDITION to the defense budget. Most of the money for the war in Iraq is borrowed money--mostly from China.
Our overly excessive defense budget and the expense for the Iraq war are huge factors in our national debt.
While I am hardly advocating the United States should not have a defense budget, there are many vastly wasteful areas that can be cut. Why do we need 40,000 American troops stationed in Germany and 35,000 American troops stationed in Japan when WWII ended 63 years ago? Those two countries are now our allies. They do no pose a threat to the USA.
One reason why the Soviet Union dissolved was that it was overextending its budget on defense and was becoming involved in wars outside the Soviet Union(if was involved in a major war against Afghanistan at the time). The same think may happen to the America if we keep militarily overexteding ourself, particularly if Bush decides to invade Iran.
Leaper,Come on, Ty. Screwed? Over $3B???
Our national debt is approaching $10 TRILLION...and it amounts to roughly $1.75B every DAY!
Our monthly trade deficit alone is $58 billion...and our total trade deficit to date is approaching $150 TRILLION!
$3B is pocket change compared to the real economic issues facing this economy.
You are smart...you shoulda recognized my mis..writing. It is 3 trillion, not billion.
Now does that make you a bit worried? Also, that was a conservative estimate..if we started pulling out now.
Go read Stiglitz and see how badly bush and his cronies lied about the costs. Any accountant would be in jail.
When in doubt, blame the jews!!No way, it was the Jews.
But what else do you know for sure?
I thought the figure sounded pretty low...but I was at work on a Friday and my brain was toast.
Thank God for weekends.
My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?
TGIF....it's been a longggg week!!!
My family and I know its not free.....but that is just ignorant BS and fear mongering. We pay enough in taxes now to defend ourselves and pay for health care as long as we do it wisely....But wisdom is in short supply in this country at times.Freedom ain't free broski. And that deficit is only going to keep growing with Dems and their historical large spending in office. Right now what we need is a true conservative to come in and cut spending big time and keep us safe. You think the economy is shitty now, wait until UniHealth goes live 4 years from now. It'll suck when you pocket 25% of your earnings
C.H.U.D.
HOFer
Clinton didn't slash the defense budget. It was Bush that cut the funding for services to the vets. Thanks, George. Those guys didn't do anything for you...This president isn't a true conservative.I seem to recall that a dem balanced the budget. I seem to recall this president NEVER vetoing any spending bill.Freedom ain't free broski. And that deficit is only going to keep growing with Dems and their historical large spending in office. Right now what we need is a true conservative to come in and cut spending big time and keep us safe. You think the economy is shitty now, wait until UniHealth goes live 4 years from now. It'll suck when you pocket 25% of your earnings
Get serious.
The president who balanced the budget also slashed the defense budget into a fraction of what it should have been. 5k Americans were then murdered.
"Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
They could do both. And you'd take home 25% of what you earn. Than, guys like Harlan will want half of that to go to the poor. Hello socialism.My family and I know its not free.....but that is just ignorant BS and fear mongering. We pay enough in taxes now to defend ourselves and pay for health care as long as we do it wisely....But wisdom is in short supply in this country at times.Freedom ain't free broski. And that deficit is only going to keep growing with Dems and their historical large spending in office. Right now what we need is a true conservative to come in and cut spending big time and keep us safe. You think the economy is shitty now, wait until UniHealth goes live 4 years from now. It'll suck when you pocket 25% of your earnings
MJ, you have selective memory.
Defense spending was greatly decreased throughout the 1990s...it actually began under Bush Sr. His last budget plan called for a 19% decrease in the defense budget from 1992-1999. During that period under Clinton after Bush was defeated in 1992, the budget actually did decrease 18%.
It was mostly a bipartisan effort...I'm not blaming Clinton for it, nor am I going to be someone who suggests those cuts were the reason for 9/11...but to claim the budget wasn't slashed during Clinton's tenure is hogwash.
My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?
Actually, you would be wrong.MJ, you have selective memory.
Defense spending was greatly decreased throughout the 1990s...it actually began under Bush Sr. His last budget plan called for a 19% decrease in the defense budget from 1992-1999. During that period under Clinton after Bush was defeated in 1992, the budget actually did decrease 18%.
It was mostly a bipartisan effort...I'm not blaming Clinton for it, nor am I going to be someone who suggests those cuts were the reason for 9/11...but to claim the budget wasn't slashed during Clinton's tenure is hogwash.
Under Clinton the defense budget ROSE as compared to Bush Sr.
OK, how can you argue he did not cut it more?!?
Was it not lower after he cut it a lower percentage after Bush SR had already given it a hearty cut?
Is taking off 10% of something after someone takes 20% off of something first not less?
The fact of the matter is he was irresponsible and deemed it unnecessary to have even the amount that Bush cut it to. So he cut it even smaller. Than we were attacked.
Interesting that Clinton appears to have the slowest rate of total growth.
No, I'm not wrong...and your own chart proves my point. Defense spending DECREASED under Clinton. I also mentioned that it began under Bush Sr.
Go back to your smoking your pipe Ty.
My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?
After a decrease from a previous regime to boot. Seems like Slick Willy really did not value the safety of people or a progressing society from the chart.No, I'm not wrong...and your own chart proves my point. Defense spending DECREASED under Clinton. That was my point.
Defense spending NEEDS TO DECREASE!
C.H.U.D.
how can that happen? there is general agreement that the troops are spread too thin. Disengagement from Iraq is going to be slow.
U.S. is caught.
It has nothing to do with that Partial.
Our military spending went up a lot under Reagan, and it had gone up a lot in general even before that because of the Cold War. Once the Cold War was over, it was only logical to vastly reduce the decades of spending increases used because of the Cold War.
As I said...it was a bipartisan effort, and not a foolish one considering the circumstances. The problem was that our government as a whole down its guard when the Berlin Wall fell. We failed to recognize the growing threat terrorism was fostering...and how it would impact us as the remaining world superpower.
My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?
Unless i''m reading it wrong, it increased from where it was under Bush sr.No, I'm not wrong...and your own chart proves my point. Defense spending DECREASED under Clinton. I also mentioned that it began under Bush Sr.
Go back to your smoking your pipe Ty.
How can you say it decreased? what are you comparing it to?
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