Coldplay

[Zool]

The Clash are and will always be the best rock band. Really I don't think they have a bad song.

The irony of you extolling a band like the clash, whose politics are the complete opposite of yours...is just mindblowing.

Music is music. I listen to Slayer, but I'm not going to go all Ed Gein on some grave yard just cause I listen to Dead Skin Mask.

BTW, the Clash is not the best rock band. Pioneers in punk for sure. I have a hard time with labeling any band the best ever, though the Beatles last 3 albums are as close to perfection as you can get IMO.

Zool,

For the most part i agree with you, but for the clash and political bands..i have to disagree. The clash's music and lyrics and politics go hand in hand..it is all together.

Yeah I'll buy that. Its sorta like Tex listening to Rage Against the Machine?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

The Clash are and will always be the best rock band. Really I don't think they have a bad song.

The irony of you extolling a band like the clash, whose politics are the complete opposite of yours...is just mindblowing.

Music is music. I listen to Slayer, but I'm not going to go all Ed Gein on some grave yard just cause I listen to Dead Skin Mask.

BTW, the Clash is not the best rock band. Pioneers in punk for sure. I have a hard time with labeling any band the best ever, though the Beatles last 3 albums are as close to perfection as you can get IMO.

Zool,

For the most part i agree with you, but for the clash and political bands..i have to disagree. The clash's music and lyrics and politics go hand in hand..it is all together.

Yeah I'll buy that. Its sorta like Tex listening to Rage Against the Machine?

Exactly.

Unfortunately, that is exactly what happens...a bunch of frat boys rockin it out to RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...at Coachella. Completely unaware.

Kinda like Kurt Cobain..the same people that made his life miserable were now in the front row.

[The Leaper]

I believe there is a potential storm brewing that Coldplay copied their first single from their new album off some other unknown band. My wife was blabbering about it last night, but I wasn't paying complete attention...I could care less about Coldplay because I've always thought they sucked ass. They desperately want to be U2, but have 1/10th the talent.

So did Coldplay pull a Vanilla Ice, or what?

[PackFan#1]

I believe there is a potential storm brewing that Coldplay copied their first single from their new album off some other unknown band. My wife was blabbering about it last night, but I wasn't paying complete attention...I could care less about Coldplay because I've always thought they sucked ass. They desperately want to be U2, but have 1/10th the talent.

So did Coldplay pull a Vanilla Ice, or what?

Go suck your mother's tits, Leaper. 1/10th the talent? Fuck you!

[PackFan#1]

Who's Coldplay? Are they the ones that sand that stupid Yellow song or whatever is was called?

You ingorant fuck. Yellow is one of the greatest song ever written. STFU!

[Oscar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydsuqDwaooc


This here is the greatest song ever wrote.. :P

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I believe there is a potential storm brewing that Coldplay copied their first single from their new album off some other unknown band. My wife was blabbering about it last night, but I wasn't paying complete attention...I could care less about Coldplay because I've always thought they sucked ass. They desperately want to be U2, but have 1/10th the talent.

So did Coldplay pull a Vanilla Ice, or what?

First, coldplay neither sound nor aspire to be U2. At best you might have an argument like that regarding Radiohead. But, Coldplay has admitted that their biggest influence was Travis.

Plagiarism: Who knows. This stuff happens all the time...smaller bands/artists accuse a bigger one of doing it. Usually they don't win.

Take a listen. I definitely can can the similarity. But, only in bits of the original..when it goes to the chorus it is different.

The question is how Chris Martin (coldplay) came up with it...was it purposeful or did it seep up from his subconcious. Plus, how many rock songs are just a few chords away from each other.



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[PackFan#1]

Most Britpop rock bands sound similar b/c they pretty much have the same influences. I've always thought Coldplay sound a lot like the Verve, which isn't a bad thing cos the Verve were pretty good.

What makes Coldplay better than most is Chris Martin's vocal. Only Chris Carraba of Dashboard Confessional comes close to Martin's level.

[TheCheese]

Dave Mathew's Band kicks ass and I enjoy listening to them even though hes a huge lefty. If anyone has seen the new Adam Sandler movie Zohan you will know what I'm talking about, even though it was pretty funny part he played.

Like Harv said if you can't just enjoy the music for what it is instead of what the misguided liberal musicians "stand for" than there is much in the entertainment industry that will piss you off.

That being said I would have to say the greatest rock band of all time would easily be Pink Floyd. Those guys are amazing and no other band can come close to replicating their sound, mainly because David Gilmour's talent and uniqueness just cannot be matched.

[GBRulz]

I believe there is a potential storm brewing that Coldplay copied their first single from their new album off some other unknown band. My wife was blabbering about it last night, but I wasn't paying complete attention...I could care less about Coldplay because I've always thought they sucked ass. They desperately want to be U2, but have 1/10th the talent.

So did Coldplay pull a Vanilla Ice, or what?

I know what you're referring to. Some unknown Brooklyn band is claiming they Chris Martin visited their set and stole the melody from them. However, the track was already cut in '07, six months before Martin even visited the unknown band from Brooklyn. It sounds like a loud of crap to me.

[sheepshead]

Dave Mathew's Band kicks ass and I enjoy listening to them even though hes a huge lefty. If anyone has seen the new Adam Sandler movie Zohan you will know what I'm talking about, even though it was pretty funny part he played.

Like Harv said if you can't just enjoy the music for what it is instead of what the misguided liberal musicians "stand for" than there is much in the entertainment industry that will piss you off.

That being said I would have to say the greatest rock band of all time would easily be Pink Floyd. Those guys are amazing and no other band can come close to replicating their sound, mainly because David Gilmour's talent and uniqueness just cannot be matched.

Matthews was good until they started playing stadiums, i lost interest then. As a conservative if all I listened to was "non-liberal" artists all i would be able to play is Debby Boone in which case I wouldnt writing this because I would have offed myself years ago. Guys like Springsteen that go out and play for candidates, loose my respect also. If Leno asks who youre going to vote for , fine say something. Otherwise-play music and keep politics out of it.

[The Leaper]

I know what you're referring to. Some unknown Brooklyn band is claiming they Chris Martin visited their set and stole the melody from them. However, the track was already cut in '07, six months before Martin even visited the unknown band from Brooklyn. It sounds like a loud of crap to me.

Well, the other band would've had the song written prior to the visit as well, I suppose. The question becomes who wrote and performed it first...and as far as performing it goes, it looks like the other band wins.

Then you have Martin's recent comments about being the world's worst plagarist...which may not have been what he meant word-for-word, but it does seem there is some truth in the notion that Coldplay builds heavily off the work of others...even if they don't copy it directly.

So, in my mind, that reduces the value of their work...I'm not saying it invalidates their work, but if you take an existing work and tweak it to make it your own sound, I'm not going to assign as much creative value to what you are producing.

[Harlan Huckleby]

First, coldplay neither sound nor aspire to be U2. At best you might have an argument like that regarding Radiohead. But, Coldplay has admitted that their biggest influence was Travis.

I don't know, I hear some U2 influence in Coldplay.

I have one Coldplay CD somewhere, but it is lost in a pile of confusion. Probably I haven't pursued it because it would just remind me of tank and I'd start crying again.

[FavreChild]

Guys like Springsteen that go out and play for candidates, loose my respect also. If Leno asks who youre going to vote for , fine say something. Otherwise-play music and keep politics out of it.

Well, Springsteen is probably still pissed that Reagan co-opted "Born In the U.S.A." for his campaign, when the song was meant to be a political critique.

Music is a primal form of expression. There's no reason to avoid politics in music unless the artist is only creating the music for the purpose of making money. Besides, almost every artist out there makes a political statement of some kind, even if it's just reinforcing the status quo (which is what most music does). For instance, even a sappy love ballad reinforces heterosexual normacy with male artists crooning about "her" beauty and female artists singing about "his" strength - or whatever.

We just don't perceive most music as being "politcal" - which is exactly what allows it to reinforce social norms (because we don't realize that it's happening!).

[Zool]

Besides, almost every artist out there makes a political statement of some kind, even if it's just reinforcing the status quo (which is what most music does). For instance, even a sappy love ballad reinforces heterosexual normacy with male artists crooning about "her" beauty and female artists singing about "his" strength - or whatever.

Good point. And like Frankie says:

Relax
don't do it
when you wanna go to it
Relax
don't do it.....when you wanna come

[PackFan#1]

Leaper, STFU and go listen to Coldplay. You don't know what you're talking about.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Well, Springsteen is probably still pissed that Reagan co-opted "Born In the U.S.A." for his campaign, when the song was meant to be a political critique.

To be fair, about 95% of the country didn't realize it was a political song. Apparently, the catchy chorus threw people off. Springsteen and many others were so friggin' wrong about Reagan that it soured me on their political views since.

[PackFan#1]

The only right-wing artist I listen to is Moby.

Country music is all right-wing and that's why its trash.

I like rap.

[PackFan#1]

Probably I haven't pursued it because it would just remind me of tank and I'd start crying again.

Tank is a guy who only post for the attention. The reason I didn't join this site sooner was because Tank was posting here. I was sick of his stuff at JSO. His Ted is Trapped in the Closet threads are lame, although the one he wrote for Mazzin was pretty funny.

I, for one, is glad Tank is banned. He hasn't been at JSO for awhile. He probably is banned there too.

[BallHawk]

We should of guessed it was you through the whole Roswell-UFO connection.