Yeah...big difference between Favre as a leader and Rodgers as a leader right now. I'm not knocking Rodgers, since he hasn't started a game yet and it will take time and wins for him to garner that leadership quality...but like I've said before, IMO we don't win that Seahawk playoff game last year with Rodgers at QB. The collective belief in Favre in the huddle is a very real factor that we will certainly miss at times in 2008.