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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    All this talk about "healing" kind of cracks me up. I couldn't care less if the organization and Favre ever mend their fences or not. His legacy will be unchanged either way for me, and the organization will be neither less without him nor more if he returns.

    He was entertaining while here, but has been gone a long time already, football-wise. I will not think less of him if he never shows up again in GB, nor more of him if he does. Same for the organization. What was done, was done and nothing in the future will change it for me.
    I've gone back into this thread to simply review some of the posts. Patler your reaction (above) is somehow fascinating to me. I mean totaly .... fascinating.

    I mean your non plused one way or the other, in terms of any news RE: Brett Favre and his number being retired and/or his induction into the Packer HOF.

    In my case I believe that these future events coming to fruition are vital in terms of Green Bay Packer history. That... in terms of how this story of FAVRE and PACKERS might play out in a negative context.

    Specifically...If he should enter the NFL HOF as a first ballot candidate and at that time. NOT have his number retired and/or NOT been inducted into the Green Bay Packer HOF.

    Then we would more that likely have a media circus frenzy in terms of accusations of 'sour grapes'. That accusation 'again' and like a recurring nightmare, pointed in two directions. At Favre and the Green Bay Packers. As a result the sick drama merely carrying on and forward... on and on and on...ad nauseum; and in my view, unacceptable.

    Again ... and I adamantly express this concernn and one in which I am correct in taking.

    a) That Brett Favre has to have his number retired.

    b) Brett Favre must be inducted into the Green Bay Packer HOF >>> ASAP.

    This priority must be a certain focus of Packer President and CEO Mark Murphy. Brett Favre has to also embrace the importance of getting this done.

    This is so very important now.

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    NFL Network OD'd on Favre for about a hour yesterday and it was pretty good, I guess.

    But Favre's speaking style is definitely NOT for a fast-paced show or segment. I was starting to worry if he were dealing with concussions or something.

    But there at the end, he perked up and came through. A 4th quarter comeback, if you will.

    One thing was obvious, though. He has the respect of all the ex-players. He's totally gray now and looks older than his years, but players love the guy and Favre is great at telling a story.

    Favre and A-Rod did a good job at the NFL Honors the night before as well.


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    Big props to Manning for the comment that he and Luck will be on stage presenting the award someday.
    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    Big props to Manning for the comment that he and Luck will be on stage presenting the award someday.
    Would have been funnier if he had then paused and said "I can't wait."
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Would have been funnier if he had then paused and said "I can't wait."
    Well now you're just being nit-picky. You nit-picker person.
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    I am huge Favre honk, and believe me when I tell you , he wanted to shove it up Thompson's ass just as he wanted to shove it up sterger's ass.

    He was disgusted with Thompson ever since he took Rodgers in the first round instead of drafting pieces that would help the Packers win right away. Favre truly dislikes that man. I would say the same for Thompson but he is void of emotion. Favre will and has always loved the franchise, and the fans of the Packers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    I am huge Favre honk, and believe me when I tell you , he wanted to shove it up Thompson's ass just as he wanted to shove it up sterger's ass.

    He was disgusted with Thompson ever since he took Rodgers in the first round instead of drafting pieces that would help the Packers win right away. Favre truly dislikes that man. I would say the same for Thompson but he is void of emotion. Favre will and has always loved the franchise, and the fans of the Packers.
    Favre being angry with TT is like the auto assembly line worker being angry at the new automated computerized welding machine that takes his job.

    Piss off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    I am huge Favre honk, and believe me when I tell you , he wanted to shove it up Thompson's ass just as he wanted to shove it up sterger's ass.

    He was disgusted with Thompson ever since he took Rodgers in the first round instead of drafting pieces that would help the Packers win right away. Favre truly dislikes that man. I would say the same for Thompson but he is void of emotion. Favre will and has always loved the franchise, and the fans of the Packers.
    Deputy... of course he did. That's just common sense to know that. It's a fact of life and good reason (or normal behaviour) in Pro Sports. Sadly some Packer fans just don't get it when most sports fans take that crap all in stride. I'm used to that being an NHL fan. Scoring a hat trick against your old team is supposed to bring on the widest grin. It's supposed to be 'a feel good ' moment.

    The question I ask is: What makes Green Bay Packer fans so unrealistic in terms of understanding this fact of life. Why do Packer fans have to carry that crap around for what may be forever? That's 'just' foolish.

    Actually it might lend itself to an interesting psychiatric study. Why do Packer fans carry such pain over Brett Favre?
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Deputy... of course he did. That's just common sense to know that. It's a fact of life and good reason (or normal behaviour) in Pro Sports. Sadly some Packer fans just don't get it when most sports fans take that crap all in stride. I'm used to that being an NHL fan. Scoring a hat trick against your old team is supposed to bring on the widest grin. It's supposed to be 'a feel good ' moment.

    The question I ask is: What makes Green Bay Packer fans so unrealistic in terms of understanding this fact of life. Why do Packer fans have to carry that crap around for what may be forever? That's 'just' foolish.

    Actually it might lend itself to an interesting psychiatric study. Why do Packer fans carry such pain over Brett Favre?
    And I'm sure you enjoy it when a former player lights your team up for a hat trick. What a * you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    And I'm sure you enjoy it when a former player lights your team up for a hat trick. What a * you are.

    *deleted to retain some semblance of civility.
    Hey M. it's simply one of those it will be what it is moments.The facts of life. Sometimes things don't go our way exactly as we hope they will. Accepting that as a fact of life is a factor of maturity and not allowing any suffering is simply good health.
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    Aaaaahhhhhhh...... The post-season after losing in the Divisional Round with lots of doubt and questions about the team. Time for us to turn upon one another and rend each other's flesh like rats in a sociology experiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Cumby View Post
    Aaaaahhhhhhh...... The post-season after losing in the Divisional Round with lots of doubt and questions about the team. Time for us to turn upon one another and rend each other's flesh like rats in a sociology experiment.
    Can I be part of a sorority experiment instead?
    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Cumby View Post
    Aaaaahhhhhhh...... The post-season after losing in the Divisional Round with lots of doubt and questions about the team. Time for us to turn upon one another and rend each other's flesh like rats in a sociology experiment.
    It's the of season at Packerrats.

    Rats will be rats.
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    I don't disagree.

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    Just another reason to like Aaron Rodgers

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/pos...-packers-favre

    Five years have passed since the Green Bay Packers divorced Brett Favre. During that time, we've waited for someone to step toward reconciliation. As it turns out, the most qualified candidate was a third party with a vested interest in making amends for both sides.

    Speaking Tuesday on his ESPN 540 radio show, Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers confirmed his role in arranging a joint appearance with Favre at the NFL Honors show Saturday night in New Orleans. Rodgers made clear that he wants to see Favre re-enter the Packers family and hopes the reunion is part of his own legacy in Green Bay.

    "As the face of the franchise now," Rodgers said, "[it's] a role that I take very seriously. I have the responsibility and enjoy having the opportunity to represent my team. I think it's important to realize that it is probably time to move forward."

    It was hard to envision this day coming during the summer of 2008, when Favre attempted to force his way back onto the team -- and reclaim the job Rodgers had inherited -- after announcing his retirement. The ensuing chaos scuttled the Packers' season, and in 2009, Favre beat the Packers twice as a member of the Minnesota Vikings.

    But the Packers' Super Bowl XLV championship in 2010, coinciding with Favre's retirement, began a healing process for both sides. Rodgers said producers from the NFL Honors show pitched the idea of making a joint presentation and, after thinking it over, he decided it could serve as a springboard for more important things.

    Rodgers said he talked on the phone with Favre before the event. They also spent a "good amount of time" backstage arranging the routine that Rodgers claimed was entirely comfortable and devoid of the awkwardness it portrayed.

    ("That was the joke," Rodgers said, who added that the original plan was for the pair to start hugging but then back away and say, "Too soon?" Apparently the plan was better than the execution.)

    Prior to that phone conversation, Rodgers and Favre hadn't spoken much since 2008 -- a distance I've always attributed to their distinctly different personalities as well as the inherent tension of a Hall of Fame succession. In the end, however, it was probably on Rodgers -- for lack of a better phrase -- to be the grown-up here. Favre wasn't likely to beg the Packers for forgiveness, and if Packers president Mark Murphy or general manager Ted Thompson have reached out to Favre, it has not been reported publicly.

    "It didn't take a lot of coaxing for me to do it," Rodgers said. "I did want to sit and think about whether it was the right thing to do. I really feel very secure in my position with the team and feel good about the things that we've been able to accomplish in my five years as the starter, and feel good about the direction the organization is going in.

    "Brett is two years removed from the game. He's going to obviously be in the Packers Hall of Fame. He'll get his number retired, and he'll be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame in the next few years. It's important, I think, to make sure that he's recognized for all the accomplishments that he's achieved in our organization especially. He's still very dear to many of our fans for the things that he's done for the Packers on the field. You can never take that away.

    "As the face of the franchise, I felt like it was important that I took a leadership role in that. Not that one was needed now, but I thought it was good timing to just let the fans know, let Brett know, let's move forward. Let's heal things up and let's move forward."

    I do think that it would help for Favre and Thompson to clear the air between them before the Packers schedule a Brett Favre Day at Lambeau Field. But the first step is always the most important one, and Rodgers deserves credit for making it happen. As is often the case for children caught in the middle of a divorce, he was the most clear-thinking person in the group and thus served in the unifier role.

    I'm sure some of you will think Rodgers is taking himself too seriously as the "face of franchise" and doubt the reach he can have in such a multilayered issue. You're certainly entitled to that opinion, but to me, it's a much more preferable approach than the alternative. I like that Rodgers will use the power inherent in being a team's franchise quarterback to effect greater good for the franchise. And pulling Favre back into the Packers family is without question good for everyone.

    "… You think about what you want your legacy to be and how you want to be remembered," Rodgers said. "As I move forward … I think about how I want to be remembered, and this is one thing that I really want to move forward with."

    Rodgers has long since escaped the shadow of Favre as a player. But the debacle of his unusual departure? In the end, Rodgers had to clean that up, too.
    Go PACK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bossman641 View Post
    Just another reason to like Aaron Rodgers

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/pos...-packers-favre
    I just read this and it's all good. I tip my hat to Aaron Rodgers for taking the lead here. That's excellent stuff and commendable in terms of his leadership as a Green Bay Packer player.

    Now it's time for the principles in the Green Bay Packer Organization to restore a better spirit of good will in Packer Nation as concerns this issue.

    It's time to seriously consider the final steps to honor Brett Favre's legacy to the Green Bay Packers. To induct Brett Favre in the Green bay Packer Hall of Fame and retire his number. To get that done and to initiate the benefits of a total healing for the principles and some Packer fans.

    GO PACKERS !
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    I just read this and it's all good. I tip my hat to Aaron Rodgers for taking the lead here. That's excellent stuff and commendable in terms of his leadership as a Green Bay Packer player.

    Now it's time for the principles in the Green Bay Packer Organization to restore a better spirit of good will in Packer Nation as concerns this issue.
    It's time to seriously consider the final steps to honor Brett Favre's legacy to the Green Bay Packers. To induct Brett Favre in the Green bay Packer Hall of Fame and retire his number. To get that done and to initiate the benefits of a total healing for the principles and some Packer fans.

    GO PACKERS !
    The Packers have already tried to retire his jersey once.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

    -Tim Harmston

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    The Packers have already tried to retire his jersey once.
    Really ! Well they have to try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Really ! Well they have to try again.
    Yes, it was supposed to be the MINN-GB game in Lambeau to kick-off the 2008 season.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    The Packers have already tried to retire his jersey once.
    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Really ! Well they have to try again.
    Woodbuck;

    You didn't know or remember that they had already made plans for it? They announced it publicly shortly after he retired. Announced tentative plans for what the day would be like and everything.

    That's why when he was asked about it two years ago, Murphy quipped that this time they would wait long enough to make sure that he was staying retired before planning a ceremony. It got a pretty good laugh.

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