The Old Gungslinger thinks Kap has reached Pat Tillman immortality. What the mama-effing fuck!
Scott Campbell and his ilk see Tillman as an American hero, as the dude who gave up everything to defend America’s freedom. To me, Tillman was a cowardly egoist.
Tillman was not drafted by the military. He was not in the military. He was not some burger-flipping loser with no life. He didn’t have to play soldier. Tillman had a family. He disregarded the emotional, physiological, and physical well-being of his family to egoistically seek war glory. In short, Tillman chose self-interest over the interests of his family. He was an egoist.
Kap ain’t no fucking egoist.
I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel.
His motivation is irrelevant as is the motivation of everyone else that dies in war, and you have no idea what his motivation is. Every service member who dies in legal military action deserves respect.
I also respect legal protestors whether I agree with them or not. They are taking a risk for something they are passionate about and that action deserves respect. It is no where near the same level of potential sacrifice but I still respect it none the less.
This stance you felt compeled to share needs to be reevaluated, it is beneath you if you stop and think about it.
I just about puked when I read this. Our Packer icon saying dumbshit crap like that. I was wondering if it would make it to the forum - I shoulda known you'd bring it up.
Where do you get off saying Tillman was not in the military? That's factually wrong. Clearly he was.
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While in the NFL, Tillman was not an active member of any branch of the military, nor was he a reserve. The government didn’t need him in it’s invasion of the Middle East. I’d have empathy for Tillman if he was drafted or called up for service.
Dude had a nice family. He had a nice paying gig. He chose self-interest (war glory) over the well-being of his family. Consequently, that egoistic decision made a widow out of his wife, made his children grow up without their father.
Did fucking Odysseus, with a hot wife and newborn offspring, voluntarily sign up for the Trojan War? Dude faked insanity in hope of avoiding the war. It wasn’t til the Greeks threatened to kill his son did ole Odysseus relent.
Tillman ain’t Odysseus. Tillman was an egoist.
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I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel.
No, it's not. So you're saying is that we can only have soldiers that don't have a family? Just because he made a good living and had a happy life doesn't necessarily mean any of those people are egotistical and war-loving. I have many family members that have served, both voluntarily and through the draft. Not a one was egotistical war mongerer. The ones who served willingly did so for a true sense of love for our country that obviously you cannot understand.
This is the problem with public notoriety. Tillman did not just join out of love for country, he went, in part anyway, because defense of the nation seemed foisted on the least fortunate. And he wanted to critique the war first hand. Some in Tillman's own family weren't sure the Army would want him in a fighting unit given his propensity to question orthodoxy.
Tillman: https://vault.si.com/vault/2006/09/11/remember-his-name
Jake Plummer on Tillman: https://www.si.com/nfl/2015/06/30/si...denver-broncos
Tank is being an ass about it, but some in his own platoon wondered the same thing he is. They wouldn't choose to be there if they could earn five million elsewhere. He was looked at as an interloper.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
This should be about OUR Brett Favre praising that all world piece of shit, Kaepernick - not about Tillman and whatever his motvation may or may not have been.
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I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel.
Who's this brent guy you all wasted 500 pages on?
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
Every goddam thread is gonna end up in FYI isn’t it?