Really getting fat

[packinpatland]

I didn't know Patler was a midget!

Partial...you've gained 80 lbs?!?! Geesh...maybe you need to watch the premiere of "The Biggest Loser" tonight on NBC. Although everytime I watch it...I find myself eating a whole pack of Oreos. I'm 5'11" and about 180. I was 135 in 2002 when I graduated high school...so I've packed on some lbs since then.

I'm 5'11" 245. Weighed 160 in HS when I played sports. Now I don't do anything. Used to workout a lot freshman year of college.

I actually thought about getting an eliptical like you talked about..but I just don't have the room for one. Also, they're pretty pricey. But....if you can afford it and have the room...those things would get you to lose weight like Richard Simmons working with Nicole Richie.

I couldn't disagree with you more.........they're like those Nordic Tracks of old............they're nice to hang clothes on.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Nah I can't swing it. I'd go to the school gym for free. Ellipticals are expensive, and the shitty ones are really shitty.

I really agree with this. Having a high quality elliptical makes a big difference, less strain on your knees.

I think gym memberships are a better value in general than home exercise equipment. Except for the occasional sociopath, not to name names Madtown, we are social creatures and like to be around people. It is better psychologically to get out of the house and sweat in public. Working out at home becomes a lonely chore, and home equipment becomes laundry hangers, as PatinPatland noted.

I suppose your mileage may vary.

[MateoInMex]

Wisconsin weather won't allow me to rn in the winter due to the fact I'm a huge weather pussy. So I have a treadmill and only run
Outside when its 50 or more and no wind. I've lost 55 pds in 2 years and 20 in the last 2 months
To a trim 182. I stopped drinking beer everyday and drink 2wice a week. No late night snacking and 1500 calories a day with sit ups and push ups everyday...5 mile runs 3 times a week shod do it for ya if u wanna lose weight. Of course here in mex I drink daily so m set back about 10 pds but its worth it. If my fat ass can do it...u can too.

[hoosier]

Wisconsin weather won't allow me to rn in the winter due to the fact I'm a huge weather pussy. So I have a treadmill and only run
Outside when its 50 or more and no wind. I've lost 55 pds in 2 years and 20 in the last 2 months
To a trim 182. I stopped drinking beer everyday and drink 2wice a week. No late night snacking and 1500 calories a day with sit ups and push ups everyday...5 mile runs 3 times a week shod do it for ya if u wanna lose weight. Of course here in mex I drink daily so m set back about 10 pds but its worth it. If my fat ass can do it...u can too.

Longevity and fitness are sooooooo overrated.

[Partial]

So far I am shinsplint free which is good.

[MateoInMex]

Wisconsin weather won't allow me to rn in the winter due to the fact I'm a huge weather pussy. So I have a treadmill and only run
Outside when its 50 or more and no wind. I've lost 55 pds in 2 years and 20 in the last 2 months
To a trim 182. I stopped drinking beer everyday and drink 2wice a week. No late night snacking and 1500 calories a day with sit ups and push ups everyday...5 mile runs 3 times a week shod do it for ya if u wanna lose weight. Of course here in mex I drink daily so m set back about 10 pds but its worth it. If my fat ass can do it...u can too.

Longevity and fitness are sooooooo overrated.

U have a point..I think I got laid more as a fat guy...but then I decidedo to get in shape after I got married. It's like...what's the fucking point...

[packinpatland]

How timely is this?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28582253/

[HowardRoark]

To a trim 182. I stopped drinking beer everyday and drink 2wice a week. No late night snacking and 1500 calories a day with sit ups and push ups everyday...5 mile runs 3 times a week shod do it for ya if u wanna lose weight. Of course here in mex I drink daily so m set back about 10 pds but its worth it. If my fat ass can do it...u can too.

I have done virtually the same thing. The Monday after Thanksgiving I weighed 202, I am down to 183 now.

Followed a similar path that you have; have also thrown in some weights…..muscle is suppose to speed up metabolism.

Check out this link: http://www.halls.md/body-mass-index/av.htm I find it amazing how thin you have to be to merely fall in the “normal” range. I finally hit the normal range for my height, 6’1” , this week. Partial, your number does not look good.

A few other things:

1. Drink half your body weight in ounces of water everyday. You better also buy a catheter.
2. Eat a big breakfast….oatmeal or egg white omelet.
3. Small meal/snack every 2-3 hours all day.

I tried Bobblehead’s HIIT a few times this week; it is good. Basically, I thought it replicates playing a fast game of basketball. I also pulled my hamstring yesterday doing it…….

[Oscar]

Cool link Howard. For me, I'm 6'2" and go around 190 lbs. I weighed 175 lbs when I graduated from high school. (1985) I've never been a work out warrior but have always stayed in shape.

I wonder how much a persons occupation effects there weight? I'm a mechanic and the type of work I do is pretty demanding physically. I've often thought that has made a difference for me. At least as far as staying in shape.

As I've gotten older I got into cycling and ride every morning when the weather permits and play basketball at least once a week. I've also stopped drinking alcohol and taken caffeine out of my diet.

Good luck Partial. Hope things work out for ya..

[Partial]

Fatboy had 1 cup of total, 1/2 cup (not completely consumed) skim milk, and one large red delicious apple this evening for a midnight snack instead of going to the gas station down the street for a pizza/sour patch kids.

Whoo hoo go me!

[bobblehead]

To a trim 182. I stopped drinking beer everyday and drink 2wice a week. No late night snacking and 1500 calories a day with sit ups and push ups everyday...5 mile runs 3 times a week shod do it for ya if u wanna lose weight. Of course here in mex I drink daily so m set back about 10 pds but its worth it. If my fat ass can do it...u can too.

I have done virtually the same thing. The Monday after Thanksgiving I weighed 202, I am down to 183 now.

Followed a similar path that you have; have also thrown in some weights…..muscle is suppose to speed up metabolism.

Check out this link: http://www.halls.md/body-mass-index/av.htm I find it amazing how thin you have to be to merely fall in the “normal” range. I finally hit the normal range for my height, 6’1” , this week. Partial, your number does not look good.

A few other things:

1. Drink half your body weight in ounces of water everyday. You better also buy a catheter.
2. Eat a big breakfast….oatmeal or egg white omelet.
3. Small meal/snack every 2-3 hours all day.

I tried Bobblehead’s HIIT a few times this week; it is good. Basically, I thought it replicates playing a fast game of basketball. I also pulled my hamstring yesterday doing it…….

You pushed it a little too hard if you pulled a hammy...or you did it back to back days. I do it on a stairmaster so no big injury risk. I used to play a lot of basketball and was in great shape so I suspect your analogy is pretty good. If you are running you should only be about 80-85% on your "sprint" intervals.

This also brings up another point for partial...You are still young so get in shape now, if you wait till your 35 you are likely to get hurt everytime you try and get back in shape. Of course HgH and low impact steroids will probably be common in the next 10 years so it will be better for you.

[Freak Out]

Partial....I've suggested signing up before...do it after you graduate.

Top Army recruiter weighs fat camp for recruits

By SUSANNE M. SCHAFER, Associated Press Writer Susanne M. Schafer, Associated Press Writer Mon Jan 12, 9:03 am ET

FORT JACKSON, S.C. – The Army has been dismissing so many overweight applicants that its top recruiter, trying to keep troop numbers up in wartime, is considering starting a fat farm to transform chubby trainees into svelte soldiers.

Maj. Gen. Thomas Bostick, head of the Army Recruiting Command, said he wants to see a formal diet and fitness regimen running alongside a new school at Fort Jackson that helps aspiring troops earn their GEDs.

Bostick told The Associated Press that obesity looms as "a bigger challenge for us in the years ahead" than any other problem that keeps young people from entering the military, including lack of a GED or high school diploma, misconduct or criminal behavior and other health issues such as eye or ear problems.

According to Defense Department figures provided to the AP, over the past four years 47,447 potential recruits flunked induction physicals at the nation's 35 Military Entrance Processing Stations because they were overweight.

That is a fraction of the 205,902 such exams given in 2005 and 250,764 in 2008, but still amounts to a hefty number and comes at a time when the military is more interested than ever in recruits. The Army and Marine Corps together paid more than $600 million over the past year in bonuses and other financial incentives to attract volunteers.

While the services have reported exceeding their recruiting goals in the past year, the Pentagon remains under pressure to find a constant flow of recruits. The Defense Department has announced plans to boost the active duty Army by 65,000 to a total of 547,000 soldiers by next year, and grow the Marines from 175,000 to 202,000 by 2011.

Obesity afflicts recruits for other physically demanding jobs, including firefighters. Deputy Chief Ed Nied, chair of the safety, health and survival section of the International Association of Fire Chiefs, said fire departments are also making a "major push" to encourage better fitness among young people who want to join.

"We draw from the same exact population that they (the military) draw from," Nied said from his Tucson, Ariz., headquarters. "This comes from a lack of physical education in the high schools."

In an interview during a visit to the Army's largest training installation, Bostick said a slim-down camp could be part of the new Army Prep School at Fort Jackson, S.C. The school opened in August, and gives recruits who didn't graduate from high school the chance to earn a GED before starting their nine weeks of basic training.

"We are looking at the Army Prep School as a place where we might send some (recruits) that have weight issues," the two-star general said.

The prep school is housed in several one- and two-story buildings on a small part of this sprawling training installation. The classrooms and living quarters are Spartan. GED candidates wear Army uniforms, exercise before breakfast and study under the guidance of enlisted officers. They do not mix or conduct weapons training with soldiers participating in the nine weeks of basic training maneuvers elsewhere on the fort.

Bostick argues that many of the young people who want to join the Army have a hard time understanding a healthy diet and the importance of daily exercise, but could get within the military limits with guidance.

"It took them 18 years to get to where they are at, so it's very difficult for them to lose the kind of weight that they need to on their own," said Bostick, who did not provide any timing for when his idea might reach fruition, nor any projection of its potential cost.

Lawrence J. Korb, a former Pentagon chief of personnel during the Reagan administration, said the Army has to fight even harder than the other service branches to get the recruits they need.

"The Army has a tough time recruiting as compared to the other services," said Korb, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank in Washington. He said the burden for fighting an unpopular war in Iraq has fallen primarily on the military's largest service.

"They are doing this because they are desperate," Korb said.

Recruiters echo Bostick's worries about weight issues among potential candidates for the military.

"I'd say that out of every 10 applicants that come in, probably three we couldn't take — they are obese," said Sgt. Darryl Bogan, a recruiter in Columbia. An additional 20 percent to 30 percent of recruits are slightly overweight, but some can get the weight off, Bogan said.

"We are getting heavier as a nation as far as our young people are concerned," Bogan said.

Besides basic weight and height guidelines, Bogan said the Army uses body fat percentages and an aerobics test to determine whether recruits can withstand the rigors of basic training. Recruits must step up and down on a riser at a certain rate per minute, then perform some push-ups and sit-ups and have their heart rates measured.

One of Bogan's recruits, 18-year-old Idalia Halley, was shocked when she found she was a few pounds too heavy to enter boot camp.

"My mom was like, 'You better come run with me,'" Halley recalled, saying it took several weeks of healthy eating and runs with her Army-veteran mom to finally get into the service.

On her second try, Halley said she weighed in at 162 pounds and logged a 30 percent rate of body fat to meet the Army's standard.

Toting her M-16 during weapons exercises in basic training, Halley said she'd slimmed down even more in the first weeks of training.

"I know I've lost some weight because I have to pull my pants up tighter," the Army private said. "And besides, I don't think the food's all that great — except breakfast."

[SkinBasket]

Jiu Jitsu. Our gym even has a cardio class for fatties beforehand. I've watched several fat kids slim down in weeks while learning how to get choked and strangled the right way twice a week. We do 10-15 minutes of warm up to break your sweat and stretch, 15-20 minutes of technique, then 30-40 minutes of live rolling. The best part is, that even if you run out of gas and give in during the live part, you still get your ass kicked. You literally cannot give up. Giving up means more pain than continuing to work. It's good motivation for sick chubbies like you. If I could get nutz to come back to class, you guys would work against each other.

[Partial]

I would like to do some martial arts and will probably do some once I'm graduated and once the project at work is less hectic, assuming that it ever is. That sounds like a good way to get tough and functionally strong. I'm fairly strong right now, but I don't have any functional strength. What i'm saying is while I can lift a fair bit, I am very weak in sports when trying to apply said strength.

At least I can throw a pigskin a quarter mile.

I've eaten pretty poorly today. I had a chipotle burrito at work (the provided dinner), and then was snacking on a handful of party mix when I got in.

I'm going to have a banana now. It was a long day. No time for the gym today. Worked 14 hours and gym is now closed

[Partial]

I pee'd like 12 times today. I'm pretty weirded out.

I am going to keep track of it again tomorrow, and if it is as out of control as today, I guess I'll go see a doctor.

It's weird though, because I have really improved my diet over the past two weeks.

Today, I went out for the first non-home-cooker meal in a while, and got a grilled chicken sandwich for breakfast, and had 3 pint glasses of diet mountain dew.

Then, I had some fruit and water for lunch.

For dinner, I had two grilled chicken breasts and a 1/2 gallon of water.

What's odd is the water consumption is pretty typical for me, but the excessive pissing is not.

[Kiwon]

I pee'd like 12 times today. I'm pretty weirded out.

Maybe we need to start a PR poll and figure out what the average is.

[bobblehead]

I pee'd like 12 times today. I'm pretty weirded out.

I am going to keep track of it again tomorrow, and if it is as out of control as today, I guess I'll go see a doctor.

It's weird though, because I have really improved my diet over the past two weeks.

Today, I went out for the first non-home-cooker meal in a while, and got a grilled chicken sandwich for breakfast, and had 3 pint glasses of diet mountain dew.

Then, I had some fruit and water for lunch.

For dinner, I had two grilled chicken breasts and a 1/2 gallon of water.

What's odd is the water consumption is pretty typical for me, but the excessive pissing is not.

You should pee that much if you are drinking that much fluid, but if its not normal you could be spilling sugar. Go buy ketone sticks from a pharmacy and check your urine.

[GrnBay007]

I pee'd like 12 times today. I'm pretty weirded out.

Maybe we need to start a PR poll and figure out what the average is.

I pee'd a lot when I was pregnant. :P

[SkinBasket]

I pee'd like 12 times today. I'm pretty weirded out.

Maybe we need to start a PR poll and figure out what the average is.

I pee'd a lot when I was pregnant. :P

Awwww... Partial's not fat, he's just with child! Who's the dad? Madtown... you sly dog! I bet you poked holes in the jimmy just to trap Partial in a twisted relationship didn't you? Well done!

[Harlan Huckleby]

How old is Partial? Could we have a statutory rape situation here?