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    How good can Sam Shields become?

    There have been a lot of cornerbacks in GB over the past 10 years. After you get past Woodson, Harris, McKenzie and Williams, has any cornerback played as well in GB as Shields is playing now? I don't think so.

    Shields is so inexperienced at corner and seems so dedicated to getting better (from what stories have been written) that there could be a lot of improvement yet to come. As he becomes more comfortable with his own play recognition and coverage abilities, I can see him making more attempts at interceptions. His speed and quickness really could make him a top-notch player. Unlike some of the fast CBs, he seems willing to stick his nose in on tackles. Watching the way Woodson plays is sure a good role model for him.

    Can he be an All-Pro in the future?

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    It is a wonderful story-line. It is hard to believe a kid with only one year of college DB under his belt is starting in the NFL, and playing at a high level to boot.

    This is why all the talk of Green Bay being on Asomagoo's short list is amusing rather than tantalizing. He would have to come up with a deal that we would take rather than the other way around.
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    We got Sam...now we just need Dean on ship! Rock On!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmdk View Post
    We got Sam...now we just need Dean on ship! Rock On!!!!!
    Don't you want Dave to go with Sam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Don't you want Dave to go with Sam?

    Not my thought! Sam & Dean from Supernatural; the Winchester boys...hunting monsters of the midway! YEAH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    There have been a lot of cornerbacks in GB over the past 10 years. After you get past Woodson, Harris, McKenzie and Williams, has any cornerback played as well in GB as Shields is playing now? I don't think so.

    Shields is so inexperienced at corner and seems so dedicated to getting better (from what stories have been written) that there could be a lot of improvement yet to come. As he becomes more comfortable with his own play recognition and coverage abilities, I can see him making more attempts at interceptions. His speed and quickness really could make him a top-notch player. Unlike some of the fast CBs, he seems willing to stick his nose in on tackles. Watching the way Woodson plays is sure a good role model for him.

    Can he be an All-Pro in the future?

    Next year should be really interesting. If you get the 2nd year bump with him the way you do with many players, he could be right there. But like Tramon is finding out with the Probowl voting, it takes a while to establish a reputation.

    His play has probably impacted our draft this year, as I was pretty certain that Ted would have had to take a CB given Woodson's age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Campbell View Post
    Next year should be really interesting. If you get the 2nd year bump with him the way you do with many players, he could be right there. But like Tramon is finding out with the Probowl voting, it takes a while to establish a reputation.

    His play has probably impacted our draft this year, as I was pretty certain that Ted would have had to take a CB given Woodson's age.
    I am looking forward to next year already, and not just for SHields but for the team as a whole with all of the returning players.

    I think TT will still look for a CB. You absolutely have to have 3 good ones, and I don't think Woodson has many more years left in him at corner, if any. A good fourth corner to replace Woodson in the top three in a year or two would not be a wasted pick at all. Lee and Underwood won't be missed if they are replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    I am looking forward to next year already, and not just for SHields but for the team as a whole with all of the returning players.

    I think TT will still look for a CB. You absolutely have to have 3 good ones, and I don't think Woodson has many more years left in him at corner, if any. A good fourth corner to replace Woodson in the top three in a year or two would not be a wasted pick at all. Lee and Underwood won't be missed if they are replaced.
    I agree. Right now they are one injury away from Jarrett Bush being the nickel back. Lee might still be a player if he can stay healthy for once. Hard to tell though. I have no hope for Underwood.
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    I think there's a chance he could become as good as Asumnugazuntites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    I think there's a chance he could become as good as Asumnugazuntites.
    I like simlpe Sam better
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    The jury is still out, but the evidence looks good so far.

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    The sky's the limit for Sammy. And what better name for a defensive player than "Shields". Almost could be his own comic book character.
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    If he improves at all, it would be like the couple of years we had with Harris and Woodson, or at least like McKenzie and Tyronne Williams - they had a couple of pretty good years.

    Tyronne is another good CB that has been here during the past 10 years. I'm pretty sure he started all 16 games as a rookie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiness View Post
    If he improves at all, it would be like the couple of years we had with Harris and Woodson, or at least like McKenzie and Tyronne Williams - they had a couple of pretty good years.

    Tyronne is another good CB that has been here during the past 10 years. I'm pretty sure he started all 16 games as a rookie.
    I thought about Williams, but his last year in GB was 2002, and I think he was somewhat declining the last year or so. He didn't play much after leaving GB. He seemed to lose quickness, then he was done. I think Shields might be better now than Williams was in 2001-2002. But I have no complaints about Williams. He played well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiness View Post
    If he improves at all, it would be like the couple of years we had with Harris and Woodson, or at least like McKenzie and Tyronne Williams - they had a couple of pretty good years.

    Tyronne is another good CB that has been here during the past 10 years. I'm pretty sure he started all 16 games as a rookie.
    He started 0 games as a rookie (1996) but started 15 games in 1997 when Craig Newsome got hurt.
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    I'd just like to state I was the first poster here that was high on Shields before anyone even knew who he was. Yay for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    I'd just like to state I was the first poster here that was high on Shields before anyone even knew who he was. Yay for me!

    Quit cutting in line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    I'd just like to state I was the first poster here that was high on Shields before anyone even knew who he was. Yay for me!

    Not true. My brother and I saw him in the first couple TC practices of the year. He was breaking up passes from the start. Unless you knew he was good before he ever stepped foot on the practice field (in which case you're just throwing darts and nobody cares), you weren't the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    He started 0 games as a rookie (1996) but started 15 games in 1997 when Craig Newsome got hurt.
    Joe beat me to it.

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    Shields has been a blessing this year and is playing beyond anyones expectations. Hopefully he will continute to get better...

    I wonder how Underwood or Lee would have played if thrown in there this year? Underwood is still an unknown, Lee has started to show flashes of his athleticism in special teams play. I feel good about both and think they both would have held their own this year if given the opportunity. Maybe not as well as Sheilds, but just another example of the depth this team still has after all the injuries.

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