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    I'm extremely proud of my boys. If they win, it would be more than I dreamed would happen since Jolly got suspended. Every adversity has made them stronger. If they lose this game, I may need to be sedated for a bit, but when I come off the meds, I will remember what I just wrote and go back to being damn proud of my boys. Stellar work this year, but we're not done yet. "We got 8 quarters done, 8 quarters to go..."
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    Finley is a "Pro Bowler" caliber player. Actually, he's beyond that. He's an All-Pro caliber TE.

    One player can make a huge difference. Look at how Chicago (and their defense) does with a healthy Brian Urlacher compared to when he's out or playing injured. Makes a huge difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    Finley is a "Pro Bowler" caliber player. Actually, he's beyond that. He's an All-Pro caliber TE.

    One player can make a huge difference. Look at how Chicago (and their defense) does with a healthy Brian Urlacher compared to when he's out or playing injured. Makes a huge difference.
    Urlacher and Peppers both. Big difference in that team.

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    First, I agree that losing Finley was a huge deal, you really can't underestimate how important a field-stretching TE is. You think Chicago would be cool with losing Olsen? And even though our youngsters have played well, it is hard to imagine the strain this has put on the coaching staff, who have to focus not just on scehme but also on whether the latest noob knows what the heck he's supposed to do.

    I also agree that I will have a hard time seeing the good in this season if the Pack lose to the Bears. In part, because it's the friggin' Bears, but in larger part because I don't see the Bears as worthy. They just haven't earned it.

    So if the Pack makes it and loses to either the Steelers or the Jets in the SB, I'm bummed but cool, because those are two very worthy opponents who have fought and beaten some tough hombres to get there (The Pats had to endure 3 games against the Ravens D!The Jets did 3 games against Hoodie!).

    The Bears, as others have noted, have pretty much lucked out their whole season. So I don't care what happens in the SB, but I DO NOT WANT TO LOSE TO THE BEARS!

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    If this nightmare plays out, I will be sick for two weeks. I doubt I could even stomach watching the Superbowl. Loosing to the Bears in this situation is worse than loosing to any of the other playoff teams this year.

    Win or lose I think the rivalry kicks up a notch or two for the next couple of years.
    Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!

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    I think I've learned an important lesson this season; that one guy doesn't necessarily make or break a season. I, hohum, said McCarthy wasn't the man to get us over the hump but he's not that important to the success of the Packers but nonetheless important. Yet with that said, I couldn't possibly imagine Packers winning the Lombardi Trophy without Aaron Rodgers or maybe even Clay Matthews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmdk View Post
    I think I've learned an important lesson this season; that one guy doesn't necessarily make or break a season. I, hohum, said McCarthy wasn't the man to get us over the hump but he's not that important to the success of the Packers but nonetheless important. Yet with that said, I couldn't possibly imagine Packers winning the Lombardi Trophy without Aaron Rodgers or maybe even Clay Matthews.
    You may still prove to be right. The Packers haven't won anything yet, so you'LL get to crow "I told ya so" with a loss.

    Unlike you, I believe M3 has made a huge difference to this team. Under his leadership, Dom Capers has excelled despit starting the season with a different set of faces. The head coach is responsible for good relations with the coodinaters, and clearly, Dom is a man long in the tooth. You don't just call and command that type of personality.

    Next, M3 has to restructure his attack; it was absolutely clear that the offensive feature was Finley. So much so, I was rimended of the "Boobie Miles" scenario from Friday Night Lights. M3 achieved the restructuring despite having no security blankett in Ryan Grant after he was lost in game 1.

    Finally, any part of the team could have folded at any time. They could have mentally resigned the season to the books and waited for next season to go all out. Lord knows they had plenty of excuses with all the injuries - we fans gave them a free pass to fail miserably!

    But M3 kept the ship sailing and (I'm oviously guessing here) led by example. Publicly, he never once used injury as an excuse. Privately, he must have had his doubts, otherwise he arrogant or stupid. I don't think he's either, personally.

    Sure he made some bad calls, sure we fans question what Slocum and Campen actually do for the team. Let's remember, though, that Slocum has a tougher job than any, because he's replacing ST players from both sides of the ball, so his teams are hit worse than Dom's or Philbin's.

    You might point to Rodgers and CMIII as being the saviours of the season and that's legitimate, but they needed to be coached and put in a system whereby they can be successful, don't they?

    Indeed, when I add all this up, I perceive a HC that made all the difference in the world to this season's success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarlam! View Post
    You may still prove to be right. The Packers haven't won anything yet, so you'LL get to crow "I told ya so" with a loss.

    Unlike you, I believe M3 has made a huge difference to this team. Under his leadership, Dom Capers has excelled despit starting the season with a different set of faces. The head coach is responsible for good relations with the coodinaters, and clearly, Dom is a man long in the tooth. You don't just call and command that type of personality.

    Next, M3 has to restructure his attack; it was absolutely clear that the offensive feature was Finley. So much so, I was rimended of the "Boobie Miles" scenario from Friday Night Lights. M3 achieved the restructuring despite having no security blankett in Ryan Grant after he was lost in game 1.

    Finally, any part of the team could have folded at any time. They could have mentally resigned the season to the books and waited for next season to go all out. Lord knows they had plenty of excuses with all the injuries - we fans gave them a free pass to fail miserably!
    But M3 kept the ship sailing and (I'm oviously guessing here) led by example. Publicly, he never once used injury as an excuse. Privately, he must have had his doubts, otherwise he arrogant or stupid. I don't think he's either, personally.

    Sure he made some bad calls, sure we fans question what Slocum and Campen actually do for the team. Let's remember, though, that Slocum has a tougher job than any, because he's replacing ST players from both sides of the ball, so his teams are hit worse than Dom's or Philbin's.

    You might point to Rodgers and CMIII as being the saviours of the season and that's legitimate, but they needed to be coached and put in a system whereby they can be successful, don't they?

    Indeed, when I add all this up, I perceive a HC that made all the difference in the world to this season's success.
    The fact that McCarthy never used injuries as an excuse is one thing I've commended NUMEROUS times on PR; and why should he? Packers lost a bundle of solid player, a big bundle, yet I believe Rodgers, GJ, DD, Sitton, Clifton, Kuhn, Stark (new shockongly productive starter), Chuck, Tramon, Collins, Peprah (new starter), Clay, Bishop, Hawk, Holden (new guy), BJ Raji, Pickett, Jenkins, Green (new guy) & a solid punter in Mashtay are still playing??? Or Am I missing something.

    What the injurries did was force McCarthy to think outside the box as 2 good players in Finley & Grant were lost. Only derailed Packer fans think that Batman/Finley & Robin/Grant would rule the NFL. TT found guys and McCarthy acknowledged that promtly. If McCarthy thought we were done/couldn't win due to these (specifically) injuries then he would be beyond stupid - he'd been kicked into the gutter before anyone could utter "fix it"!

    Packers has a GM that cares about winning; and we're damned lucky that our players do too - this could be the product of the Packer people pedigree and the coaches are a big part of that as well.

    McCarthy is no Bill Walsh and Aaron Rodgers no Joe Montana but this team will come to play, play to win...it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmdk View Post
    I think I've learned an important lesson this season; that one guy doesn't necessarily make or break a season. I, hohum, said McCarthy wasn't the man to get us over the hump but he's not that important to the success of the Packers but nonetheless important. Yet with that said, I couldn't possibly imagine Packers winning the Lombardi Trophy without Aaron Rodgers or maybe even Clay Matthews.
    Well said. I have said all along the players (all the players) will determine the games and coaches can lose them, but rarely win them. If your team relies on one player (other than QB) so much that they can't fade losing him then it isn't that great of a team. Pass rushers are second most important in the equation, so yea, losing Mathews would be huge. Bottom line though, teams win and lose. Fading an injury or 2 is almost a necessity. Fading 6 starters and 10 backups is just silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Well said. I have said all along the players (all the players) will determine the games and coaches can lose them, but rarely win them. If your team relies on one player (other than QB) so much that they can't fade losing him then it isn't that great of a team. Pass rushers are second most important in the equation, so yea, losing Mathews would be huge. Bottom line though, teams win and lose. Fading an injury or 2 is almost a necessity. Fading 6 starters and 10 backups is just silly.

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    Thank you! I want nothing more than all PRs to feel the joy of beating the Bears tomorrow. East coast next.

    Nota bene, bobble, what's with injury thingy here!? We're about to beat the Bears for a super bowl trip'n'win!!!
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    Most of you will be suprised but I am slightly pulling for the Packers. It really is a no lose situation for me. Personally I want the team to win, because I like the makeup of Packers, If they lose I can see Packer Fan(atics) lose their shit and make complete asses of themselves.

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    I am with the Mailman. It would stink that for the second time, with a wide open field, the Packers failed to capitalize on a chance to go to the Super Bowl.

    But even more than 2007, McCarthy, despite his flaws and penchant for long FGs, demonstrated that he can command a locker room and keep his team focused during a season of significant turmoil. That is further confirmation that he is the correct coach.

    But a group only gets so many shots, so a loss would also have me calculating how many more legit years are left and then counting down. I don't want to do that. First of all, many of the better players are very young, but losing a few vets could change the dynamic. I am not sure that would happen, and think this year might demonstrate that the Packers Org has the wherewithal to carry on and replace the pieces like the Steelers.

    But I would prefer to take advantage of the opportunity that presents itself.
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    The Packers won't lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denverYooper View Post
    The Packers won't lose.
    I'm not sure which is more a jinx: "how would you feel if they lose" or "there's no way they can lose". Either way, this thread is bad mojo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker64 View Post
    I'm not sure which is more a jinx: "how would you feel if they lose" or "there's no way they can lose". Either way, this thread is bad mojo.
    Not saying there is no way they can lose, just saying they won't.

    Besides, Bretsky starting a "what if they lose?" thread can't be that bad.

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    This is more than a game. This is more than a season. The winner gets eternal bragging rights over it's rival. I mean forever. We could sweep the Bears next season and the season after that and the next 10 that follow and it wouldn't mean a thing if we lose this Sunday. They're still the better franchise if they beat us in the one and only game of this caliber in which we square off against one another. To me and many other fans on both sides of the border this game is bigger than the Super Bowl. So it's personal, as personal as it can get for a fan. We CANNOT lose this game.

    This was posted by Gunakor behind the blog and it sums up my feeling exactly as well.
    We CAN NOT lose this game

    Not making the playoffs and getting the 25 pick in the draft and all our healthy players back next year may be better than having to live the rest of our lives knowing
    we let the Dam Bears eliminate us and then we have to watch them in the Super Bowl

    It's a memory the rest of our lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    This is more than a game. This is more than a season. The winner gets eternal bragging rights over it's rival. I mean forever. We could sweep the Bears next season and the season after that and the next 10 that follow and it wouldn't mean a thing if we lose this Sunday. They're still the better franchise if they beat us in the one and only game of this caliber in which we square off against one another. To me and many other fans on both sides of the border this game is bigger than the Super Bowl. So it's personal, as personal as it can get for a fan. We CANNOT lose this game.

    This was posted by Gunakor behind the blog and it sums up my feeling exactly as well.
    We CAN NOT lose this game

    Not making the playoffs and getting the 25 pick in the draft and all our healthy players back next year may be better than having to live the rest of our lives knowing
    we let the Dam Bears eliminate us and then we have to watch them in the Super Bowl

    It's a memory the rest of our lives.

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    Damn bro...

    I wasn't nervous or anything.

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    When i watch the Bears play this year, with all the unimaginable luck they have had this year to even get to the NFC Championship, it honestly really reminds me of the 2007 Packers. EVERYTHING went our way that season, we had all the bounces of the ball go our way, and to be completley honest we werent a very good team at the start of the year in '07, much like the Bears were this year, they looked like they could lose to almost anyone, Seattle for example, and then the Patriot demolition at Soldier Field. But somehow they started playing better in all facets of the game, we couldnt run the ball in 07 until towards the second half of the season, same with the Bears, they didnt really establish anything until the second half. But once they created some consistency, they were able to balance their game a whole lot more, coupled with a few lucky breaks here and their, like the Packers losing to the Lions, Redskins and Dolphins.

    What im trying to say is, these guys are like the 2007 Packers and the 2010 Falcons to an extent, they are pretenders who have had a lot of bounces go their way, but like all pretenders they will be revealed for what they are, we have far too much talent to lose this game, special teams isnt going to decide this game, not in the weather we will be expecting down their. There is no chance we lose this game, because we are the 2007 Giants.

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    I prefer to see the glass as half full, think of how great it would feel to beat da Bears and step over them on the way to the Super Bowl. I would've felt a letdown if the Packers had ended up playing the Sea-hags. All the games will be tough now, time to rise to the occasion.
    Thanks Ted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadtownPacker View Post
    Dont be a dumbass. There is greatness to be missed in losing this game, I agree. That's only because of what it is. PACKERS vs BEAR for a chance at the SB. One of the NFL's elite dream matchups. Goodell probably piss himself with joy at the thought of the ratings. The impressive victories over PHI and ATL have removed any stress I had about this season. It has been a great run and if is meant to end at Chicago Sunday I can say that they got further than expected. I just wanted to see a playoff win. I got to see two. I will be greatly disappointed but I wont be mad. No reason for us to riot.

    As long as JJ doesnt fumble at the end.
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