Who should the Packers take with the 32nd pick in the 2011 NFL draft? The players listed in the poll are the BPA after the Packer Rat mock draft was completed.
Who should the Packers take with the 32nd pick in the 2011 NFL draft? The players listed in the poll are the BPA after the Packer Rat mock draft was completed.
If I missed someone, sorry. Write in votes will be considered. I will give this poll a couple of days. Its over when a clear cut winner emerges or I decide it's done. We do have a ROUND 2 to get to!
an interesting pick for the rats.....the more you read up the more you will see there is undoubtedly a BPA that most have rated in a different tier than the rest.
As much as I like Brooks Reed, he's rated about the 3rd to 4th best OLB in the draft
Sheard could help this team as well but I think he's similar in quality to Reed
Ijalana would be about the 6th or 7th OL coming off the board
Baldwin could be elite some day IMO but he's WR #3 by most analysis I've read; I'm not even sure Hankerson gets drafted in round two and I don't know enough about Titus Young.
Watkins seems like a great fit but he's 26 or 27 already; that downgrades him right there IMO
Or you can kiss your needs off til round two, and draft the #1 rated RB in the 2011 draft and what most still feel like is an elite talent.
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To me this is almost 1A and 1B. I gotta vote for Ingram. But if Ingram was gone, I'd be all about Brooks Reed
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
maybe we should post a scouting report on each one ? Don't have the ambition right now but maybe later
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
Not a bad idea Bretsky, but I'm with you, ambition tank is just about on "E" today.
Ingram's the BPA, so that's where my vote went. However, in this spot I could certainly see someone calling Ted with a nice trade offer. If the option to trade down on the poll that's where I'd vote. If Ingram really were there at 32 someone would pay dearly for that pick.
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
Agreed that if that's the way the board fell, it could go that way.Originally Posted by TennesseePackerBacker
I voted Ingram, but I don't see it happening if this is the way the board fell. If the board looked like this, I could see TT calling Carolina and asking them if they want Ingram, and getting them to swap picks and pick up an extra late rounder.
At that point...the next BPA is Liuget. You can never have enough big men. He develops for a year while you play Green.
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I'm not so sure Liuget fits our scheme. He's more of a 4-3 DT.
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
Yeah, great 3-tech prospect. I'd take him over Fairley if I was a 4-3 team. But in the 3-4? We don't need another nose, and I really doubt that he has the length to play the 5-technique position effectively. You have to like Neal a lot more than Liuget in this scheme, and we got Neal in the second.
I don't think the 5-tech hole is really even that big a need, we really only need depth and developmental guys (I really like Oregon's Brandon Bair on day 3), assuming we can finally get some pass rush from the other OLB. We play 2.25 DL/play, and if Raji and Neal can be counted on then you don't want to spend your first on .25 of a player (or a guy who relegates last year's promising #2 to .25 of a player). Dom wants extra defensive backs whenever he can get away with it, and it's always going to come at the expense of your big horses.
Last edited by Lurker64; 04-04-2011 at 10:06 PM.
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I can take some of the blame for Ingram being on this list by not taking him with the Patriots' second pick. In actuality, I think a team wanting Ingram would trade up for him as the first round wound down to picks 20-32.
So, I voted for Ingram in the rare instance that he would actually be there at #32. If he's not there, I really do like Brooks Reed or a trade down. I think our offense will be okay for years to come, but we should continue to build a dominant defense by selecting BDPA.
Last edited by swede; 04-03-2011 at 05:46 PM.
[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
I don't want Ingram, so I'm just going to hold on to my vote and vote for the other leading candidate.
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I did want Ingram, but Johnny 'the life-altering idiot' Jolly changed my vote.
"Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
I still think that Liuget is really unsuited to playing 5-tech in our defense (though he'd be a great 3-tech for a 4-3 team, but he just isn't long). If you wanted the top 5-tech available, I'd say Iowa's Ballard but he didn't make it on the poll.
Keep in mind, however, that our average number of defensive linemen on the field last year was about 2.25, and we have Raji and Neal for the 2, and so we just need .25 of a player plus rotation.
Well, if they took Ingram it would mean they would cut Grant before the season. That's not something I'd like to see.
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If enough guys give Ballard a write in vote, he will win. But the poll only allows me 10 options.
I just can't believe the Packers would take Ingram. Starks and Grant already on board. No chance.
Remember TT drafted Justin Harrell when most of us thought our DL was very strong; but IMO he anticipated Williams might leave. IMO about the only positions that are nearly out are QB and TE in round one. If TT feels Ingram is special that pick is very possible IMO
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
I wouldn't even count those two out. If TT thinks Rudolph is the BPA you bet he'll be taken. Elite TE's are a cheap way to keep your offense in the top tier. NE fans know better than anyone what a pair of young TE's can do for your offense. With Flynn in jeopardy of leaving to free agency, a capable backup QB is a pretty big concern. This position is at a premium now with the concussion rules. I would be more surprised to see the pick be a reach like Brooks Reed than a pick with value, even at QB, like Christian Ponder--that's just how Ted rolls.
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Ryan Grant turns 29 next season. Starks is very unproven, although he has shown promise. I envision Starks as being more of a 3rd down specialist. He's a bit of a RB/WR hybrid. Ingram is a complete RB. He can run anywhere, any style and he catches the ball. I'd compare him to DeAngelo Williams. So Grant phases out as he enters his 30's and Ingram phases in as he approaches 25. I'm fine with that.
Last edited by RashanGary; 04-03-2011 at 07:35 PM.
No way Ingram slips this far in the real draft, Watkins gets my vote, we can get 4-6 years out of him and protecting ARod is critical. He'll be more consistent than Colledge ever was.
The top-ranked guard according to NFLDraftScout.com, Baylor's Danny Watkins, played left tackle in the Bears' spread offense. His dominant performance at the Senior Bowl and showing in private workouts make him a first-round target with potential to play any position on the line.
Thanks Ted!
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