packerrats by subscription

[Harlan Huckleby]

Its time for PR to take the next step and become a site we can be proud of. To get there will require some revenue so that an American citizen with some manners and taste can be retained to manage the site.

How often do you dwell here in a year? Surely all that entertainment is worth something. How much does pay-per-view porn cost, and how many minutes do you last? Why, the garbage can alone is a bargain. I'll pay $5 per year - what say you?

Lets fix-up this slum, and that starts with tossing out the slumlord.

[Bretsky]

You've been right enough this year
Bad Idea

[Joemailman]

Occupy Packerrats!

[MadtownPacker]

Occupy Packerrats!

I pretty sure youre all 99% assholes.

[HowardRoark]

I pretty sure youre all 99% assholes.

Yes, they are.

[Harlan Huckleby]

we got the Banker and The Man on one side, and the peeps on the other. Lets take down this machine! Power to the posters!

[Joemailman]

[mraynrand]

Its time for PR to take the next step and become a site we can be proud of. To get there will require some revenue so that an American citizen with some manners and taste can be retained to manage the site.

How often do you dwell here in a year? Surely all that entertainment is worth something. How much does pay-per-view porn cost, and how many minutes do you last? Why, the garbage can alone is a bargain. I'll pay $5 per year - what say you?

Lets fix-up this slum, and that starts with tossing out the slumlord.

I totally agree with you. Shocking that the Harlan actually endorses capitalism. Anyone who is too cheap to pony up 5 bucks/year for Packerrats is a miserly tool. For the record, Dennis Kucinich is opposed.


http://blog.cleveland.com/medical/20...ants_metr.html

Rep. Dennis Kucinich wants MetroHealth Medical Center to rethink fee for poorest patients
Published: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 5:30 AM Updated: Monday, March 02, 2009, 5:15 PM

U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich wants MetroHealth Medical Center to revise its plan to charge a small co-payment to its poorest patients seeking care, saying the new policy would hurt those who most need help.
The Cuyahoga County-owned hospital plans to introduce the sliding-scale, point-of-service fee in March. On the low end, patients would be asked to pay $5 to see a doctor or $10 for an emergency room visit.
"Five or 10 dollars may not seem like much, but for the families being forced to pay it, it may mean they go without a meal," said Kucinich, a Cleveland Democrat.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Thank you for that report, Debbie

[Scott Campbell]

I get the feeling that this is Plan B in case Harlan can't get Uncle Sam to fund his retirement.

[Joemailman]

I get the feeling that this is Plan B in case Harlan can't get Uncle Sam to fund his retirement.

Sam Hurd?

[Harlan Huckleby]

I was not thinking of myself as the American citizen with manners and taste who should be hired to turn this place around, but I am honored by your nomination. I suggested $5 per year as a starting point for dues, we'll have to do a detailed accounting of expenses. Perhaps a funding drive of former posters will be necessary as well, we can form an alumni association.

[Patler]

I was not thinking of myself as the American citizen with manners and taste who should be hired to turn this place around, but I am honored by your nomination. I suggested $5 per year as a starting point for dues, we'll have to do a detailed accounting of expenses. Perhaps a funding drive of former posters will be necessary as well, we can form an alumni association.

I'm all in favor of it. I think the subscription should be at least $5/month. Perhaps you should just go with the standard $19.99/month.

Of course, I have absolutely no intention of paying even $5/year, but if you are going to have a subscription fee, do it right and make yourself at least look legitimate!

[mraynrand]

The JS is something like 40-50/year. $19.99/month is absurd, of course, but I assume that was intentional. $5/year is nothing. I'd love to see the cheapskates who wouldn't post here if they had to pay $5/year come out of the woodwork. Refusing $5/year to cover nominal expenses for the operator demonstrates a skinflint level that is almost beyond comprehension to me.

At the same time, a charge could promote a legitimacy that extends to regular features, with posters who have demonstrated knowledge and a capacity to write compelling stuff actually being paid a nominal amount.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'd love to see the cheapskates who wouldn't post here if they had to pay $5/year come out of the woodwork. Refusing $5/year to cover nominal expenses for the operator demonstrates a skinflint level that is almost beyond comprehension to me.

Well spoken. Hear that, Patler?

At the same time, a charge could promote a legitimacy that extends to regular features, with posters who have demonstrated knowledge and a capacity to write compelling stuff actually being paid a nominal amount.

No, I think it is critical that all funds be funneled to the new professional manager. Don't want to spread things too thin.

[Patler]

The JS is something like 40-50/year. $19.99/month is absurd, of course, but I assume that was intentional. $5/year is nothing. I'd love to see the cheapskates who wouldn't post here if they had to pay $5/year come out of the woodwork. Refusing $5/year to cover nominal expenses for the operator demonstrates a skinflint level that is almost beyond comprehension to me.

Consider this to be me coming out of the woodwork.

Yes, $5/year is nothing. But.....

I really see no reason to give $5 to "someone" who has lied to me about the ownership and management of the site. Those running this site have lost my trust, so no, I would not give them $5, nor $1, nor 1 cent. For all I know, they would collect the fees and simply shut the site down. My trust is that low right now.

There are plenty of free sites to meet the need, sites that have not yet earned my mistrust. A few of those I might be willing to pay a subscription to. But not this one. Not right now anyway.

I recognize that this was likely just a bullcrap thread started to rile people up, which was the reason for my suggestion of $19.99/mo. But your reply seemed at least semi-serious, so I have given you my serious response.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Those running this site have lost my trust, so no, I would not give them $5, nor $1, nor 1 cent.

No, you don't understand, all the money will be going to me, or rather to the new manager. I thought, however, that some small retirement gift might be budgeted to thank Madtown for his years of service. Perhaps a piece of costume jewelry, a pen knife, or a little flashlight that attaches to a key ring.

[mraynrand]

Consider this to be me coming out of the woodwork.

Yes, $5/year is nothing. But.....

I really see no reason to give $5 to "someone" who has lied to me about the ownership and management of the site. Those running this site have lost my trust, so no, I would not give them $5, nor $1, nor 1 cent. For all I know, they would collect the fees and simply shut the site down. My trust is that low right now.

There are plenty of free sites to meet the need, sites that have not yet earned my mistrust. A few of those I might be willing to pay a subscription to. But not this one. Not right now anyway.

I recognize that this was likely just a bullcrap thread started to rile people up, which was the reason for my suggestion of $19.99/mo. But your reply seemed at least semi-serious, so I have given you my serious response.

I was absolutely serious. If you like the site, but are unwilling to pay $5/year, you're an incredible skinflint. I accept your other reasons as legitimate for not liking aspects of the site or mistrusting the management, but seriously, are you really 'risking' $5? If you like other sites better, I totally understand. more power to you.

[Patler]

No, you don't understand, all the money will be going to me, or rather to the new manager. I thought, however, that some small retirement gift might be budgeted to thank Madtown for his years of service. Perhaps a piece of costume jewelry, a pen knife, or a little flashlight that attaches to a key ring.

So you mean it would go to "Joe"??????

[Patler]

I was absolutely serious. If you like the site, but are unwilling to pay $5/year, you're an incredible skinflint. I accept your other reasons as legitimate for not liking aspects of the site or mistrusting the management, but seriously, are you really 'risking' $5? If you like other sites better, I totally understand. more power to you.

Ya, I knew you were serious, as was I in my response to you. When someone I don't know (I know absolutely no one on here), have no reason to trust (fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me) asks me for money for an undefined purpose; I generally just walk away. That is what I would do here. It has nothing to do with being cheap, it has everything to do with being used.

To me it would be almost like sending the $1 bill to the first five names on the list included with a chain letter. Not much of a "risk" there either, but I don't do it. Do you?