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    I like the Brooks Reed comparison, same type of athlete and player. I'd pass on him for the same reason I didn't want Reed last year. Lacked production, not a first round caliber of athlete for the position either. Top-notch motor isn't enough for me, I'd rather take a chance on a guy like Bruce Irvin who can be as good as he wants rather than a guy like McClellin who can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    I like the Brooks Reed comparison, same type of athlete and player. I'd pass on him for the same reason I didn't want Reed last year. Lacked production, not a first round caliber of athlete for the position either. Top-notch motor isn't enough for me, I'd rather take a chance on a guy like Bruce Irvin who can be as good as he wants rather than a guy like McClellin who can't.

    I'll take a Brooks Reed or Conner Barwin type player any day as my #2 OLB over a guy who most project to be a situational pass rusher....one who could be an excellent one...but whose versatility seems very minimized
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    I'll take a Brooks Reed or Conner Barwin type player any day as my #2 OLB over a guy who most project to be a situational pass rusher....one who could be an excellent one...but whose versatility seems very minimized
    Conner Barwin is not the same type of player as Brooks Reed. Barwin is among the most physically gifted athletes in all of football. The only reason he wasn't a first round pick was because he was a converted TE with very little experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    Conner Barwin is not the same type of player as Brooks Reed. Barwin is among the most physically gifted athletes in all of football. The only reason he wasn't a first round pick was because he was a converted TE with very little experience.

    It seems like nearly all of the mock's lately have us taking Merciles, Upshaw, Branch, .Perry or Mcclelin.

    In the end that probably means we'll take Peter Konz, the C from Wisconsin

    I'd honestly be happy with any of the above if they use the 2nd round pick on a DL like Crick or Wolfe.

    I'm also fine with Bruce Irvin as long as our scouts don't project him to be a one trick pass rushing pony

    Add Russell Wilson at the end of round four and the rest would be icing on the cake.
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    This is the least of followed the draft in a long time.


    The guys I've watched. . . . .

    I don't like Perry or Reyes. I especially don't like Perry.

    I do like McClellin A LOT. I like Crick and Wolfe a lot too.



    McClellin is a very safe bet at OLB. I can't imagine him being anything but damn good. Every play I watched (and it wasn't just highlights) he was in his spot and made plays from his spot without gambling by getting out of position. He sets up the guys blocking him masterfully. He's not just a sack guy. He's an everything guy. And he's a big guy. You could play a smaller DE in front of him, like Crick or Wolfe. Double your pleasure. Two guys on the right side who can get after it and still play the run on that side.

    The Pickett/Matthews combo is nice on the left side. The run stopper and the pass rusher. . . . Together, they can do it all. The other side, if you have a better pass rusher DE and a guy like McClellin behind him. . . . That's another nice combo. And come 3rd down, McClellin is a guy you can do a lot of things with. He masks what he's doing very well. He's a guy who will stunt, delay and rush straight up. He brings a lot to the table. He's my favorite of the OLB prospects. . . . I said it earlier, but over and over, the pass protection ended up confused by him. He ran a lot of deception type blitzes and was great at it. His timing, the way he sets things up. . . He has a special knack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    I like the Brooks Reed comparison, same type of athlete and player. I'd pass on him for the same reason I didn't want Reed last year. Lacked production, not a first round caliber of athlete for the position either. Top-notch motor isn't enough for me, I'd rather take a chance on a guy like Bruce Irvin who can be as good as he wants rather than a guy like McClellin who can't.

    you deo NOT go for Bruce Irvin at #28. That #28 pick is tough to assess doing a MOCK. It's looking more and more like TT might have to go to the trenches pick. Go either LT ie Mike Adams if he falls to him or DT and Jerel Worthy. Maybe TT goes RB andpicks LaMar Miller fr. Miami.

    If TT elects to select one of those and pass's on 'a falling CB Janoris Jenkins' (please do) at Pick #28. Then he's almost 'forced to trade up' from his second round pick at #59 if he likes ** OLB's Lavonte David or Ronnell Lewis or OLB/DE Shea McClellin or DT's Brandon Thompson and Kendall Reyes might have his eye.

    He might be all over SS Harrison Smith; but as with these mentioned prospects need to trade up 'alot' to secure him.

    Any of these above prospects will cost TT his 3rd and 4th round picks and the #59 pick.

    As I study it...** one of these prospects may fall to TT; and one of these fellas should be available if he sits on Pick #59:

    DE Chandler Jones or DT Alameda Ta'amu or CB Jamell Fleming.

    OT's Zebrie Sanders or Michael Schwartz or Bobbie Masse

    FS Markele Martin

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    you deo NOT go for Bruce Irvin at #28. That #28 pick is tough to assess doing a MOCK. It's looking more and more like TT might have to go to the trenches pick. Go either LT ie Mike Adams if he falls to him or DT and Jerel Worthy. Maybe TT goes RB andpicks LaMar Miller fr. Miami.

    If TT elects to select one of those and pass's on 'a falling CB Janoris Jenkins' (please do) at Pick #28. Then he's almost 'forced to trade up' from his second round pick at #59 if he likes ** OLB's Lavonte David or Ronnell Lewis or OLB/DE Shea McClellin or DT's Brandon Thompson and Kendall Reyes might have his eye.

    He might be all over SS Harrison Smith; but as with these mentioned prospects need to trade up 'alot' to secure him.

    Any of these above prospects will cost TT his 3rd and 4th round picks and the #59 pick.

    As I study it...** one of these prospects may fall to TT; and one of these fellas should be available if he sits on Pick #59:

    DE Chandler Jones or DT Alameda Ta'amu or CB Jamell Fleming.

    OT's Zebrie Sanders or Michael Schwartz or Bobbie Masse

    FS Markele Martin

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    No Irvin at 28 is a reach. But I like Irvin at 60 more than McClellin at 28.

    I like Bobby Wagner a lot more than McClellin too for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    No Irvin at 28 is a reach. But I like Irvin at 60 more than McClellin at 28.

    I like Bobby Wagner a lot more than McClellin too for us.
    Yes! Bobby Wagner is ranked higher up some BOARDS than either Bruce Irvin or Shea McClellin and the hype has McClellin almost going above oue #28, well into the First Round in all theis media driven BS. It's really something to observe.

    Are you reading that OLB Bobby Wagner isn't a typical choice for a 3-4 defense; better suited to the 4-3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Yes! Bobby Wagner is ranked higher up some BOARDS than either Bruce Irvin or Shea McClellin and the hype has McClellin almost going above oue #28, well into the First Round in all theis media driven BS. It's really something to observe.

    Are you reading that OLB Bobby Wagner isn't a typical choice for a 3-4 defense; better suited to the 4-3?
    Bobby Wagner is more of an ILB who was used as an edge rusher a bit in nickle packages... A lot like Clay. Also like Clay, the guy is more football player than pass rusher at this point but does have a top-drawer first step.
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