The Meadow?

[SkinBasket]

So, we have a new section that allows the administrator to ban people without banning them and only allows posts that are approved by the administrator to be visible, and this is somehow different than the rest of the forum?

Sounds more like Madtowns Digital Dick Swinging Disco than a "meadow," but I guess there isn't really any information available, so maybe it's going to be used for something else. Just saying, at this point, I can see the usefulness of what I understand the idea to be, but I can pretty safely guarantee you that the implementation and use is going to be a complete and total disaster.

[mraynrand]

if you want to fight with Mad, take it to the Meadow!

GO TT! gO PAcK!!!

[MadtownPacker]

if you want to fight with Mad, take it to the Meadow!

GO TT! gO PAcK!!!

Seeeee, there is some use for it. Think of the grudge matches we could have. In the end the public would vote on who won the battle or deserved redemption.

[Harlan Huckleby]

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hey, even some blacks will survive armageddon, and if I'm not mistaken, there's a mexican. (The arab is a little over the top.)

[mraynrand]

Hey, even some blacks will survive armageddon, and if I'm not mistaken, there's a mexican.

Hey, that picture looks familiar:

[mraynrand]

If you say Jehovah once more....

[MJZiggy]

If you say Jehovah once more....

Where the hell do you find this shit?

[Scott Campbell]

Sounds more like Madtowns Digital Dick Swinging Disco than a "meadow," but I guess there isn't really any information available, so maybe it's going to be used for something else.

Maybe he did it just free up his inbox.

[MadtownPacker]

Maybe he did it just free up his inbox.

Good one.

[Freak Out]

WTF is going on around here? The meadow? Has it really come to this?

[MadtownPacker]

So, we have a new section that allows the administrator to ban people without banning them and only allows posts that are approved by the administrator to be visible, and this is somehow different than the rest of the forum?

Sounds more like Madtowns Digital Dick Swinging Disco than a "meadow," but I guess there isn't really any information available, so maybe it's going to be used for something else. Just saying, at this point, I can see the usefulness of what I understand the idea to be, but I can pretty safely guarantee you that the implementation and use is going to be a complete and total disaster.

Shocking. Here I was hoping you would just say "Im a whining little baby and anything that I dont like I cry about and make a thread but then if there is no change I might have nothing to cry about too so maybe your damned if you do and you damned if you dont", "Wow you dirty Mexican you cant win with me!".

I will swing my dick right in front of your face instead. I pay the rent and I always have but at the same time I always encourage input from everyone. So if the forum doesnt want this it will not happen. But this jumping the gun crying bullshit does get old. We should be able to discuss the matter without you immediately jumping to stage1 emergency drama mode. Does it make you feel alive talking down on anything I do here, sad little man? Life is too short to be bitter. So maybe discuss this properly or get the fuck on if the fate of a online forum damages you so badly. Thank you.

As for the meadow I posted what I was proposing:

Im thinking the Meadow can become our own "stadium jail" where bad boys and girls are sent to correct their issues. They would be changed to a special user group that allowed them to only read the Packers section of the forum while only being able to post in the Meadow in a thread that was regarding the problem or fight. The general population would have read only access to the Meadow to see the bloodshed but could not post to it. You would have access to vote on the polls that in turn would decide who had been rehabilitated enough for release from the Meadow. Right now all of you can post to this thread but that's just for the Grand Opening.

To which you gave the colorful but honest response:

This looks like one of the dumbest fucking ideas ever.


Why can't you always been so easy to work with? In this thread you say you could see some use for it but then proceed to shit over it like a baboon rubbing shit over something because he doesn't know what it is. The Meadow would actually require your votes to decide the fate of anyone sent there so "the administrator" you mention wouldnt actually have anything to do with that. In fact, your BFF kinda inspired it by suggesting Scott and Woody go off to the Meadow since they where interrupting his discussion. So maybe you can roll over and punch him in the balls for his brilliance.

But I must ask, how could you see the Meadow being useful? I see no purpose if it is just going to be another open section.

[mraynrand]

Shocking. Here I was hoping you would just say "Im a whining little baby and anything that I dont like I cry about and make a thread but then if there is no change I might have nothing to cry about too so maybe your damned if you do and you damned if you dont", "Wow you dirty Mexican you cant win with me!".

I will swing my dick right in front of your face instead. I pay the rent and I always have but at the same time I always encourage input from everyone. So if the forum doesnt want this it will not happen. But this jumping the gun crying bullshit does get old. We should be able to discuss the matter without you immediately jumping to stage1 emergency drama mode. Does it make you feel alive talking down on anything I do here, sad little man? Life is too short to be bitter. So maybe discuss this properly or get the fuck on if the fate of a online forum damages you so badly. Thank you.

As for the meadow I posted what I was proposing:

Im thinking the Meadow can become our own "stadium jail" where bad boys and girls are sent to correct their issues. They would be changed to a special user group that allowed them to only read the Packers section of the forum while only being able to post in the Meadow in a thread that was regarding the problem or fight. The general population would have read only access to the Meadow to see the bloodshed but could not post to it. You would have access to vote on the polls that in turn would decide who had been rehabilitated enough for release from the Meadow. Right now all of you can post to this thread but that's just for the Grand Opening.

To which you gave the colorful but honest response:

This looks like one of the dumbest fucking ideas ever.


Why can't you always been so easy to work with? In this thread you say you could see some use for it but then proceed to shit over it like a baboon rubbing shit over something because he doesn't know what it is. The Meadow would actually require your votes to decide the fate of anyone sent there so "the administrator" you mention wouldnt actually have anything to do with that. In fact, your BFF kinda inspired it by suggesting Scott and Woody go off to the Meadow since they where interrupting his discussion. So maybe you can roll over and punch him in the balls for his brilliance.

But I must ask, how could you see the Meadow being useful? I see no purpose if it is just going to be another open section.

There's some good in there - two people get in a flame war that disrupts the forum - send to meadow and put on read only for a week. Can you really make it so the thread is read only except for the flamers? I suggest no vote, just let the flames die out. I'm betting a flame war flames out fast with this restriction.

Make the bar pretty high before sending people to the meadow - we don't need a hair trigger despot!

[MadtownPacker]

There's some good in there - two people get in a flame war that disrupts the forum - send to meadow and put on read only for a week. Can you really make it so the thread is read only except for the flamers? I suggest no vote, just let the flames die out. I'm betting a flame war flames out fast with this restriction.

Make the bar pretty high before sending people to the meadow - we don't need a hair trigger despot!

Thanks for your input. That is exactly how it can work and I can show you if you like. Can I borrow SC and Woody? Would they be an example of where the bar should be set? Or we could use the forum complaint system (Report Post = the little triangle with the ! at the bottom of each post) where if I get so many complaints from members the Meadow goes into effect.

[Scott Campbell]

Thanks for your input. That is exactly how it can work and I can show you if you like. Can I borrow SC and Woody? Would they be an example of where the bar should be set? Or we could use the forum complaint system (Report Post = the little triangle with the ! at the bottom of each post) where if I get so many complaints from members the Meadow goes into effect.

What a wonderful group of little tattle tales we've become.

I think this kind of crazy shit is what happens when you listen to the chronic whiners. I'd rather join Partial, Ty and the rest of our dearly departed.

[woodbuck27]

Thanks for your input. That is exactly how it can work and I can show you if you like. Can I borrow SC and Woody? Would they be an example of where the bar should be set? Or we could use the forum complaint system (Report Post = the little triangle with the ! at the bottom of each post) where if I get so many complaints from members the Meadow goes into effect.

This is my suggestion of the reason for and how 'the Meadow' would work.

Hi:

I wish to make a suggestion for how I believe 'the Meadow' will work and why we need this provision at Packerrats.


The Meadow and what goes on in it between 'just two' posters assigned to it to resolve 'whatever'. Must be a place exclusive to those two members 'only' in terms of discussion or input. For those two members to either solve their issue (s) or go on ad nauseum.

I have thought about this for some time. I certainly wouldn't want to ever have to confront another in 'the Meadow'. In my view it's certainly NOT going to be a happy place to be. The Meadow should be a place to 'only' be able to handle gross insult or slander. It's a place at Packerats that resembeles 'the LAW' in any democratic environment or process. One that demands the provisions of democrasy as the rights of all members of Packerrats.

The Meadow should NOT be a desirable option for any member in a sensational sence. Noone but the two assigned to ' the Meadow ' can post within the discussion of the two members sent there to get their shit together.

The Meadow is NOT a place for showboating. It's alot like 'purgatory', between 'Heaven and Hell'; really uncomfortable i.e. if your in there with 'yours truly '. It won't be a place to dance.

It's a place to resolve serious issue (s) between ** 'only two' members at a time. If a member has to go there with me I'll be serious. I want back in the forum in good standing. I will deal with that member accordingly.

** That is covered by incorporating a provision for any number 'of Meadow threads'. If that's necessary and NOT anything close to my vision of Packerrats.

I desire Packerrats to be a Green Bay Packer Football Forum primarily, with all present options preserved and that Packerrats presently features to accomodate many.

It is my solemn wish that 'NO MEMBER' here should ever be directed to or called into 'the Meadow'. If either of those conditions arise.There must be an option to avoid any time in 'the Meadow'.

That option is available now and certainly advisable. It 'only' works if BOTH parties accept the option.

That option is the Forum's provision to use the IGNORE Option. This isn't a novel idea and I attest to this. It does work when it's necessary.

I suggest that the owner of Packerrats first offers this option to any two members on 'a must do basis', with 48 hours to agree to it.

If both disagree then it's those two banished to 'the Meadow'. It's 'work your shit out people,' because it is NOT tolerable at Packerrats. This back and forth thing arises too often because one member purposely FLAMES another and this is NOT acceptable Forum conduct. Don't suggest go elsewhere people as your out of line to do so and only contributing to the problem we're trying to solve.

Please... if your post to me isn't constructive don't post me. You know who you are.

The IGNORE Option has limitations unless two members place the other on IGNORE.

Without imposing this option and even if one member places the other on IGNORE.The member that doesn't go on IGNORE may stalk and slam the member that did comply with the owners demand for such action.

The member that fails to comply with that order to place the other on IGNORE has 48 hours to do so and must keep that member on ignore for 90 days and NOT ever post anything on that other members name.

The penalty for ignoring the IGNORE OPTION for 48 hours beyond the demand to do so by the owner. Results in an automatic 30 day suspension from Packerrats. One or the other ignores the demand.It's see ya for 30 days and no provision for appeal. It's ...I'll see you in 31 days and you'll be welcome back to Packerats and good Luck with yourself.

In the Meadow Option hopefully any two members will resolve an issue.That will NOT always be the case. It's entirely possible that one or both members will ignore the other in the Meadow.

In the case when one member makes his/her presence open for discussion with the other condemned member to 'the Meadow'; but the other member ignores the member waiting to resolve for a period of 10 days. That member should receive an automatic additional and full 30 day suspension from Packerrats.

The willing to resolve the issue member awaiting the absent member can return to post in the forum freely after a five (5) days wait from a response from the absent member.

There should be no provision or excuse for being absent from positing in the Meadow except for illness,imprisonment or death....something more serious. (-:

It's intolerable for any member here to be able to ramble through Packerrats 'attacking and flaming and insulting' any member here. The policy at Packerrats must be based in the Democratic principles of Freedom... that all North Americans are accustomed to and should expect.

Noone at Packerats is more important than any other.

Except the owner.

I hope my suggestions make sense. I want to make this perfectly clear. I do not ever plan on being in the Meadow. If I'm ever there the member assigned there with me better have first seriously considered the IGNORE Option.

No one will enjoy me in 'the Meadow'. I promise if I end up in there with anyone here I will NOT be weak. I'll be pissed.


Mad that idea about polling or allowing any other member to influence anything that has arrived at 'the Meadow' defeats the reason for 'the Meadow' and certainly embraces the issue of prejudice, that IMO exists at Packerrats. It's up to the members in the Meadow to use what ever they have to resolve differences and or insult or worse.

To get their act together.

Ohh please. Don't consider Scott Campbell and I as a test case. IMO it's so sad that we have even come to have to consider such.

I'm done with Scott Campbell.


Packerrats !!

My name is Ed. woodbuck27

[MadtownPacker]

This is my suggestion of the reason for and how 'the Meadow' would work.

Woody, ok let say you have reason to be pissed at SC but what about all the other posters you have been flat out rude lately? If someone even posted a differing opinion on a subject you fired off at them like they where an idiot! You ARE NOT stronger Woody. You are like everyone else, you let your head get hot and sometimes you blow up so get off this high horse cuz you have run the SOB ragged.

You offer some valid suggestions. Clean that damn post up so I can understand it and I will get back to you.

[mraynrand]

The Meadow is NOT a place for showboating. It's alot like 'purgatory', between 'Heaven and Hell'; really uncomfortable i.e. if your in there with 'yours truly '. It won't be a place to dance.

What of Lazarus? What of Lazarus??

[mraynrand]

Thanks for your input. That is exactly how it can work and I can show you if you like. Can I borrow SC and Woody? Would they be an example of where the bar should be set? Or we could use the forum complaint system (Report Post = the little triangle with the ! at the bottom of each post) where if I get so many complaints from members the Meadow goes into effect.

I don't think so. Maybe if they had infested mutliple threads, but they were in the Favre thread and one other. It was mostly harmless, and quite frankly entertaining. The pacopete-?? flame war was in every thread. That's the bar - when you get a lot of chatter about annoyance from the serious Packers posters - PBmax, Harv, etc. about a flame war ruining threads, then you pull the trigger.

[MadtownPacker]

I don't think so. Maybe if they had infested mutliple threads, but they were in the Favre thread and one other. It was mostly harmless, and quite frankly entertaining. The pacopete-?? flame war was in every thread. That's the bar - when you get a lot of chatter about annoyance from the serious Packers posters - PBmax, Harv, etc. about a flame war ruining threads, then you pull the trigger.

Well it seems to have spread further than that. That Favre thread is not the issue. What you describe though is pretty much how I envision it also.