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    Maybe you can lose some sleep for the dead babies of Heroshema and Nagasaki, Patler? Probably not. They deserved it for crossing us. But I'll bet you celebrate every military holiday where the poor soldiers died for your cause. For fucks sake, get some perspective, people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinHarrell View Post
    Maybe you can lose some sleep for the dead babies of Heroshema and Nagasaki, Patler? Probably not. They deserved it for crossing us. But I'll bet you celebrate every military holiday where the poor soldiers died for your cause. For fucks sake, get some perspective, people.
    I'm not sure where this came from, JH.

    You posted a thought that Hernandez wasn't like the many sociopaths who populate our prisons. I suggested that maybe he is actually one of them. I have no proof, and offered no conclusion, just the possibility that he is.

    I then wrote that IF he committed the crime as alleged, a planned and calculated (albeit poorly) execution of a quasi friend who was apparently the boyfriend of his sister-in-law to be, and/or murdered the two others in 2012, for which he is now being investigated, I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep worrying about how comfortable he is in prison. After all, these weren't murders committed in a moment of passion or anger. They were planned events from which he had time to back away.

    That's it. Nothing more. From that you have apparently concluded that I have no feelings for the lives of women and children lost in war. You imply that I revel in knowledge of the dead babies and children. Well, I knew personally a great many lives that were lost in war, some close to me, all combatants. Not only do I grieve those that I knew and the others "on our side", I assure you that I also grieve the innocent women, children and noncombatants. Now, a bit of enlightenment for you: I also grieve the enemy soldiers, most of whom were no different than us. They were simply born in a different country, in a different culture. For that stroke of fate, we killed them and they killed us. We could just as well have been comrades in arms on one side or the other.

    I am insulted to the very core of my being that you would accuse me of being otherwise.

    Now, do I have the same compassion for Hernandez if he committed the murders as alleged? If I am honest with myself, the answer is no. Did I have the same compassion for Jeffrey Dahmer? Again, the answer is no. Did I wish Dahmer to be killed in prison, or do I hope that harm will come to Hernandez? Of course not.

    I will give you the benefit of the doubt on this one, that you typed without thinking.
    But I assure you this, you have gone very far out of line with your accusations and analogies in the response I quoted and others at about the same time. Calm down and we can have a discussion. Continue with over the line personal accusations, and we can not have a discussion. It's up to you.

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    I have to agree with JH, cuz it takes one to know one.

    But I think JH is trying to say that hernandez isn't a stone cold killer. He is just a dumb, lost, little boy pretending to be a hardcore gangsta.

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    JH - You're getting a bit riled up here. Perhaps just take a few hours away from the computer.
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    Fans who bought an Aaron Hernandez jersey at the Patriots Pro Shop will be allowed to exchange it for a jersey of comparable value free of charge.
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ersey-exchange
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Fans who bought an Aaron Hernandez jersey at the Patriots Pro Shop will be allowed to exchange it for a jersey of comparable value free of charge.
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ersey-exchange
    Comparable value then or now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoosier View Post
    Comparable value then or now?
    If you bought a replica jersey with silk screen numbers, you're probably not going to get an authentic jersey with embroidered numbers. I suspect that's what they meant.
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    I'm inclined to agree with JH here in terms of world perspective but I don't feel comfortable making a character judgement on Hernandez or what he deserves other than to lose his freedom if he's in fact guilty. This isn't a ghetto kid from the wire, he's had a network of coaches and teammates as a support group for years. He's had college and opportunity. He's had focus, meaning, things to look forward to, and professional success. Maybe he's got no social conscience, maybe he's just unfathomably stupid. I'm not even sure which is worse. Go directly to jail, do not collect $200.

    Again though I suspect roid rage. I'm of the sort that believes or wants to believe that it takes a chemical imbalance to do this kind of thing. The kind of chemical imbalance that comes from a professional sport where in all reality PED's are probably near mandatory to play the game. I hope Goodell gets stuck holding this shit bomb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    I'm inclined to agree with JH here in terms of world perspective but I don't feel comfortable making a character judgement on Hernandez or what he deserves other than to lose his freedom if he's in fact guilty. This isn't a ghetto kid from the wire, he's had a network of coaches and teammates as a support group for years. He's had college and opportunity. He's had focus, meaning, things to look forward to, and professional success. Maybe he's got no social conscience, maybe he's just unfathomably stupid. I'm not even sure which is worse. Go directly to jail, do not collect $200.

    Again though I suspect roid rage. I'm of the sort that believes or wants to believe that it takes a chemical imbalance to do this kind of thing. The kind of chemical imbalance that comes from a professional sport where in all reality PED's are probably near mandatory to play the game. I hope Goodell gets stuck holding this shit bomb.
    I've seen you make this type of comment twice now. Forgive my ignorance as I haven't closely followed the PED discussion between the league and the NFLPA, but isn't the NFLPA balking on PED testing because of distrust in Goodell stemming from the bounty fiasco?

    My understanding was that the league had agreed to third party arbitrators regarding appeals of positive PED tests but the NFLPA was trying to push for third party arbitrators of all appeals - disciplinary, etc. You can argue that pushback is warranted after Bountygate, but I'm just wondering which of the league's PED testing suggestions you are in disagreement with. Again, sorry to go off topic but I'm looking for more information.
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    Interesting to me is how it is looking like these guys were making a habit of this, with the police linking 2 other killings to them, and a shooting in Florida, but they seem to be incredibly inept at it. Starting with how easily the body was found...leaving spent shell casings in rental cars? Using a gun that there is a picture of you holding floating around the internet?
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    Seems as though things are a bit intense in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by packer4life View Post
    Seems as though things are a bit intense in this thread.
    Patler is a pro and understands JH is actually the sick brother he is talking about.

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    I wonder how Tom Brady feels about his receiving corps now. Lost Welker, Hernandez and Gronk is questionable with his back and arm. There's 3 targets he knew like the back of his hand. As for Hernandez' jersey, the Pats should hire that Packer fan who turned Bert's # 4 into a Havner 41. It's going to be tough but that man had talent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TravisWilliams23 View Post
    I wonder how Tom Brady feels about his receiving corps now. Lost Welker, Hernandez and Gronk is questionable with his back and arm. There's 3 targets he knew like the back of his hand. As for Hernandez' jersey, the Pats should hire that Packer fan who turned Bert's # 4 into a Havner 41. It's going to be tough but that man had talent!
    The amount of receptions from those 3 are sick last year; TB cannot be happy. I don't understand how they would let Welker walk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    The amount of receptions from those 3 are sick last year; TB cannot be happy. I don't understand how they would let Welker walk.
    Age and cost. Amendola is Welker but younger, though with more injuries in the previous year and a half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Age and cost. Amendola is Welker but younger, though with more injuries in the previous year and a half.
    Yes, but I bet if they could rewind things right now they'd pay Welker. I saw somewhere else that the top 5 pass for NE this year will not be on the field week 1 - Welker, Lloyd (still an FA), Gronk, Hernandez and Woodhead (now with Chargers). Crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Age and cost. Amendola is Welker but younger, though with more injuries in the previous year and a half.
    I follow both of these guys and I was on board with Danny Pro Bowl Amendola (in fantasy circles I've been calling him that ....jokingly...for a while.............but I have to put two things out there

    Welker is quicker in his cuts in route running than DA is
    And Amendola.....my annual sleeper for my fantasy roster...can't stay healthy...Welker generally does
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    Quote Originally Posted by TravisWilliams23 View Post
    I wonder how Tom Brady feels about his receiving corps now. Lost Welker, Hernandez and Gronk is questionable with his back and arm. There's 3 targets he knew like the back of his hand. As for Hernandez' jersey, the Pats should hire that Packer fan who turned Bert's # 4 into a Havner 41. It's going to be tough but that man had talent!
    He was overheard complaining yesterday that his current receiver corps is lacking that killer instinct.

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    I apologize, Patler. I don't think I was even responding to you, it was the guy who called me a moron or idiot, or whatever it was. Not my proudest moment.
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