official 2014 nfl draft thread

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some tid bits from one of my go-to draft sites

http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2014rumors.php

The Green Bay Packers have their defense as the priority of their offseason. It sounds as though Green Bay is more inclined to draft for defense early rather than offensive players like a new tight end or offensive line help. Sources with the Packers say they want to improve the speed and playmaking ability on their defense. Getting their defense more dynamic and faster is a top priority of their offseason according to sources.

The Packers are also interested in Stanford outside linebacker Trent Murphy. Green Bay has some edge rushers in Clay Matthews and Nick Perry, but both players have dealt with injuries. Murphy (6-5, 252) fits the mold as an edge rusher in their defense as he led the nation with 15 sacks last season. If Murphy falls to their second-round pick, that would be ideal for Green Bay.

Green Bay isn't the only team that is scouting Murphy hard. Murphy is also on the radar for the San Francisco 49ers. The 49ers don't have a big need at the position, but with a plethora of picks, they could stand to get some pass rushing depth and that isn't a bad idea considering Aldon Smith's situation.

and its time to remind people

ITS SMOKE AND MIRRORS TIME IN THE NFL

its all just rumors from now till the draft

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packers might be interested in tajh boyd

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-senior-bowl/

Tony Pauline of DraftInsider.net recently shared an observation from an unnamed Packers scout regarding former Clemson quarterback Tajh Boyd: “[B]ased on what I’m seeing Tajh Boyd is not draftable.”

[denverYooper]

packers might be interested in tajh boyd

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-senior-bowl/

Lol. I thought the same. They're hoping to draft him in the 6th.

[woodbuck27]

packers might be interested in tajh boyd

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-senior-bowl/

http://www.drafttek.com/Top-100-NFL-...014-Page-2.asp

103 -22 Tajh Boyd; Clemson; 6'1" 225; QB ..... BIO

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dra...-200-big-board

104. Tajh Boyd - 6'1, 225 pounds - Quarterback - Clemson

The first thing I see before I go looking in depth is his height at 6 ' - 1 " and I ask myself is that really an issue?

I'm thinking Drew Brees and who else is solid at QB in terms of QB Rating and I get another shorter QB in terms of Seattle's QB Russell Wilson.

I believe it's clear that Russell Wilson is (at this time) light years away from the pure gifts and talent of Drew Brees interms of massive yards of offense production at this time. Give him a couple of more weapons at WR and who knows about this "young Field General".

[run pMc]

ITS SMOKE AND MIRRORS TIME IN THE NFL

LOL so true.

Sources with the Packers say they want to improve the speed and playmaking ability on their defense.

Hopefully this is NOT smoke and mirrors -- they really lacked both of these in 2013.

[smuggler]

^ Yeah, I was referring to Williams.

The 49ers have an extra 2nd rounder, no 5th rounder, and like five 7th rounders. That's before any comp picks are distributed. I'm sure they'll go with BPA, but I wouldn't exactly say they have a 'plethora' of picks.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dra...-200-big-board

2014 NFL Draft top 200 big board.

By: Matthew Fairburn  @MatthewFairburn on Jan 24 2014, 10:08a

14. C.J. Mosley | 6'2, 232 pounds | Middle linebacker | Alabama
15. Jace Amaro | 6'5, 260 pounds | Tight end | Texas Tech *
16. Cyrus Kouandjio | 6'5, 312 pounds | Offensive tackle | Alabama *

17. Eric Ebron | 6'4, 245 pounds | Tight end | North Carolina *
18. Jason Verrett | 5'10, 176 pounds | Cornerback | TCU

19. Ra'Shede Hageman | 6'6, 311 pounds | Defensive tackle | Minnesota
20. Calvin Pryor | 6'2, 208 pounds | Safety | Louisville *
21. Taylor Lewan | 6'7, 310 pounds | Offensive tackle | Michigan
22. Darqueze Dennard | 5'11, 197 pounds | Cornerback | Michigan State
23. Odell Beckham Jr. | 6'0, 193 pounds | Wide receiver | LSU *

24. Ryan Shazier | 6'2, 222 pounds | Outside linebacker | Ohio State *
25. Antonio Richardson | 6'6, 332 pounds | Offensive tackle | Tennessee *
26. Xavier Su'a-Filo | 6'3, 305 pounds | Guard | UCLA *

GO TT GO ! GO PACKERS GO !!

[Bretsky]

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dra...-200-big-board

2014 NFL Draft top 200 big board.

By: Matthew Fairburn  @MatthewFairburn on Jan 24 2014, 10:08a

14. C.J. Mosley | 6'2, 232 pounds | Middle linebacker | Alabama
15. Jace Amaro | 6'5, 260 pounds | Tight end | Texas Tech *
16. Cyrus Kouandjio | 6'5, 312 pounds | Offensive tackle | Alabama *

17. Eric Ebron | 6'4, 245 pounds | Tight end | North Carolina *
18. Jason Verrett | 5'10, 176 pounds | Cornerback | TCU

19. Ra'Shede Hageman | 6'6, 311 pounds | Defensive tackle | Minnesota
20. Calvin Pryor | 6'2, 208 pounds | Safety | Louisville *
21. Taylor Lewan | 6'7, 310 pounds | Offensive tackle | Michigan
22. Darqueze Dennard | 5'11, 197 pounds | Cornerback | Michigan State
23. Odell Beckham Jr. | 6'0, 193 pounds | Wide receiver | LSU *

24. Ryan Shazier | 6'2, 222 pounds | Outside linebacker | Ohio State *
25. Antonio Richardson | 6'6, 332 pounds | Offensive tackle | Tennessee *
26. Xavier Su'a-Filo | 6'3, 305 pounds | Guard | UCLA *

GO TT GO ! GO PACKERS GO !!

Jake Amaro at 15 and Ebron at 17 ? That board needs some updating IMO

[woodbuck27]

Jake Amaro at 15 and Ebron at 17 ? That board needs some updating IMO

Amaro is ranked too high.

Picking Ebron trumps picking Amaro.

TT has that adjusted on his BIG BOARD 'of course'.

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here's a reason to draft players out of alabama

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-an-nfl-game/

they practice a lot harder then what NFL teams are allowed to do these days

this also makes a good argument for drafting senior players. the guys have gotten more contact practices in their final year of college then they would get in 5 or even 10 years of practices in the pros

[woodbuck27]

here's a reason to draft players out of alabama

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-an-nfl-game/

they practice a lot harder then what NFL teams are allowed to do these days

this also makes a good argument for drafting senior players. the guys have gotten more contact practices in their final year of college then they would get in 5 or even 10 years of practices in the pros

TT has been trying to sell Packer Nation on drafting Tier Two College players and bringing in UFA's and other FA'a that just have been totally lost and getting any real shot again in the NFL. Most of these TT Guys would crash and burn in the CFL.

Nope! Ted Thompson wastes another PS and/or Roster spot ... with FA's that can't even demonstrate any natural ability to make a simple tackle. More and ore it will become Packer nation saying NO MORE ! It simply has to get right there ASAP. If Ted Thompson isn't at all concerned about bringing in decent talent to support Aaron Rodgers...?

Then what does Ted Thompson really care about Aaron Rodgers and Packer TEAM advancing to another Super Bowl under his essential leadership....under his HC's essential decision making and leadership?

Where are these Packer leaders heads? TT's way would be about as well supported by simply walking up Main Street Green Bay and looking for a solid athletic looking chap and dragging him back to Lambeau field to take a closer look. He's be wasting as much time and effort on that as bringing in the "wanna be" NFL players that he does.

Actually looking at those he drafts and that miss time after time after time...

Maybe this minimal backup plan is used to cover up the fact he's actually not that Draft SMART as some Packer fans are still deluded into being.

The real issue with TT has all to do with what I believe is a damaged ego. Thus his too often decision to simply be invisible. That he can pull of "the Howard Hughes thing" is amazing to me. He literally disappears for weeks to almost months. Is there any other GM in Pro Sports like Ted Thompson and that? TT is a total reclusive. Is that right? Don't any of you care about Ted Thompson and that strangeness?

The issue with Ted Thompson is he's out to lunch in terms of adding real strength to the Green Bay Packers. He'd rather choose a Grade F player/prospect than a Grade C- >>> D Graded prospect player; because he has in place "HIS" Draft and Development Program... that's failing before our eyes.

That some fans remain confident it will again work is like walking on thin ice with the air bubbles right before your feet.

NOT WISE !!!

Well I always have said this: You pick your direction and you mend your own lumps.

My frustration will survive TT and MM. That's what inspires me every day as a dedicated Green Bay Packer fan,

PACKERS !

[Bretsky]

here's a reason to draft players out of alabama

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-an-nfl-game/

they practice a lot harder then what NFL teams are allowed to do these days

this also makes a good argument for drafting senior players. the guys have gotten more contact practices in their final year of college then they would get in 5 or even 10 years of practices in the pros

Makes sense; those players at Alabama may practice harder than GB as well

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tajh boyd has to be just free falling down draft boards right now

showing no touch at all with a very low release

[woodbuck27]

tajh boyd has to be just free falling down draft boards right now

showing no touch at all with a very low release

What three players stood out in the first half to you fellas red and Maxie the Taxi?

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the only thing i took from the game was the hope that the queens take tajh boyd to be their franchise QB

[woodbuck27]

the only thing i took from the game was the hope that the queens take tajh boyd to be their franchise QB

http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/green-b...with-tajh-boyd

Packers Reportedly Not Enamored with Clemson’s Tajh Boyd

By: Brian Carriveau ... Jan 20, 2014

Tony Pauline @TonyPauline
Packers scout "based on what I'm seeing Tahj Boyd is not draftable" ... 5:21 PM - 20 Jan 2014

Comment woodbuck27:

Oklahoma CB Aaron Colvin impressing scouts at the SB practises, shadowing receivers all over the field; had a bad break tearing his right knee ACL Tues. afternoon 21 Jan. 2014. CB Aaron Colvin needed surgery RE: agent Ken Sarnoff.

GO PACK GO !

[Maxie the Taxi]

The big guy from Minnesota...Ra'shede Hageman...Haven't mentioned his name all game.

[packrulz]

The big guy from Minnesota...Ra'shede Hageman...Haven't mentioned his name all game.

I've been checking out Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh, 6'1", 288 lbs, I would take him over Hageman if he's still there. Aaron Donald dominated the college football defensive landscape, earning the Outland Trophy, Lombardi, Nagurski, and Bednarik Awards in 2013.
01/21/2014 - 2014 Senior Bowl: 10 observations from Monday's North practice...1. DT Aaron Donald was an unstoppable force on Monday. Like his play all season, the Pitt defensive tackle was extremely quick in drills and was relentless from snap to whistle. His burst and anticipation off the snap and active energy to fight through and around blocks make him tough for any blocker to handle. Donald repeatedly victimized Baylor OG Cyril Richardson at practice, winning with leverage, hustle and fluidity that Richardson has likely never seen before on the football field. Donald's skill-set is ideal for one-on-one drills so he should shine, but the NFL team that drafts him will get a really good football player. - Dane Brugler, NFLDraftScout.com
OVERVIEW
Considering that he's leading the country in sacks (1.6 per game) and tackles for loss (2.4), Donald might just be the most under-appreciated NFL prospect in college football. Sure, he isn't as big as most defensive linemen, but as he demonstrated with two sacks and three tackles for loss vs. Virginia Tech and big, mobile quarterback Logan Thomas, what a stick of dynamite may lack for in size can be made up with explosiveness. (10/18/13)
ANALYSIS
Strengths: Comes off the snap like he's shot out of a cannon. His first step routinely beats opponents for immediate pressures. Has an effective arm-over swim move, though he doesn't use this often enough. His stature gives Donald the leverage advantage which he uses well to get under the pads of opponents and drive them into the backfield on bull-rushes.
Weaknesses: As with most undersized pass-rushers, when Donald's burst is contained his short arms limit his effectiveness. Donald keeps his legs churning and plays with effort, but he can get caught up in the hand-to-hand combat.

--Rob Rang
He played inside most of the time, and was often double teamed, I do wish he was bigger, but maybe they can get him in the weight room and gain some weight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3YKvx6LcBs

[Joemailman]

I've been checking out Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh, 6'1", 288 lbs, I would take him over Hageman if he's still there. Aaron Donald dominated the college football defensive landscape, earning the Outland Trophy, Lombardi, Nagurski, and Bednarik Awards in 2013.
01/21/2014 - 2014 Senior Bowl: 10 observations from Monday's North practice...1. DT Aaron Donald was an unstoppable force on Monday. Like his play all season, the Pitt defensive tackle was extremely quick in drills and was relentless from snap to whistle. His burst and anticipation off the snap and active energy to fight through and around blocks make him tough for any blocker to handle. Donald repeatedly victimized Baylor OG Cyril Richardson at practice, winning with leverage, hustle and fluidity that Richardson has likely never seen before on the football field. Donald's skill-set is ideal for one-on-one drills so he should shine, but the NFL team that drafts him will get a really good football player. - Dane Brugler, NFLDraftScout.com
OVERVIEW
Considering that he's leading the country in sacks (1.6 per game) and tackles for loss (2.4), Donald might just be the most under-appreciated NFL prospect in college football. Sure, he isn't as big as most defensive linemen, but as he demonstrated with two sacks and three tackles for loss vs. Virginia Tech and big, mobile quarterback Logan Thomas, what a stick of dynamite may lack for in size can be made up with explosiveness. (10/18/13)
ANALYSIS
Strengths: Comes off the snap like he's shot out of a cannon. His first step routinely beats opponents for immediate pressures. Has an effective arm-over swim move, though he doesn't use this often enough. His stature gives Donald the leverage advantage which he uses well to get under the pads of opponents and drive them into the backfield on bull-rushes.
Weaknesses: As with most undersized pass-rushers, when Donald's burst is contained his short arms limit his effectiveness. Donald keeps his legs churning and plays with effort, but he can get caught up in the hand-to-hand combat.

--Rob Rang
He played inside most of the time, and was often double teamed, I do wish he was bigger, but maybe they can get him in the weight room and gain some weight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3YKvx6LcBs

The problem though is that Donald is the same type of player as Mike Daniels. He probably can't play nose or end. Can you line him up in tandem with Daniels as the other inside rusher in nickel without teams running the ball up the gut? What the Packers really need is someone who can play nose, or someone who can play end in base and give you some push in pass rush.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings It is interesting though that CBS how has him ranked at #21 overall following the Senior Bowl. Dee Ford has moved up to #18. Hageman has dropped to #26.

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The problem though is that Donald is the same type of player as Mike Daniels. He probably can't play nose or end. Can you line him up in tandem with Daniels as the other inside rusher in nickel without teams running the ball up the gut? What the Packers really need is someone who can play nose, or someone who can play end in base and give you some push in pass rush.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings It is interesting though that CBS how has him ranked at #21 overall following the Senior Bowl. Dee Ford has moved up to #18. Hageman has dropped to #26.

awesome, that pushes guys we could actually use down a bit. hopefully both those guys have a big combine too