If someone takes Southward in the first five rounds, I really hope it's not us.
If someone takes Southward in the first five rounds, I really hope it's not us.
Some of the sites differ quite a bit on Southward. GBNReport had him 144 on their big board. CBS had him 251. He might have helped himself at Wisconsin's Pro Day today. http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/248623341.html
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The question I have re: Southward is...can he play safety? I haven't seen him play.
Sounds like he's super athletic, but if he can't tackle or cover is he worth drafting?
Also, with all the vertebrae injuries, his medical may cause a little hesitation. Probably shouldn't, but I'm just sayin'.
Who in the hell is this guy?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-osu-pro-day/
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He's a possible 1st round pick. Most see him as a Will in a 4-3. He'd be kind of small playing OLB in a 3-4.Originally Posted by Freak Out
Rob Rang at CBS has the Packers taking him:
(8-7-1) Ryan Shazier, OLB, Ohio State: For the second consecutive season the Packers were knocked out of the playoffs by Colin Kaepernick and the San Francisco 49ers and therefore improvements to the back end of this defense remains a top priority. Shazier, who possesses this draft's most compelling combination of instincts and explosiveness, would make an immediate impact on this defense.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Not surprised, he put on a show at the combine. Some guys on here were already groaning about the thought of another Ohio State LB with through the roof measureables.
You might notice he's got that can't grow hair disease. Makes him aerodynamic.
70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
Plus he has a tweaked hamstring. Sounds like a good fit.
If the Packers drafted him, you think he plays inside or outside?
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
I'd think with that 42 inch vertical you've at least got to give him a chance to be Cam Wake and let him rush the passer. I love that there is a plan B with him where you could easily move him inside though. Super easy to get him on the field.
70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
Wake outweighs him by about 20-25 pounds. My concern with Shazier at OLB would be whether he could set the edge on running plays. I wouldn't mind seeing him lining up next to Hawk though. Hawk is solid, but needs an explosive player to team with. He had it a couple of years with Bishop, but hasn't had it since.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
I hope he brings a replacement bowl of candy beans with him.Not surprised, he put on a show at the combine. Some guys on here were already groaning about the thought of another Ohio State LB with through the roof measureables.
You might notice he's got that can't grow hair disease. Makes him aerodynamic.
Wouldn't be opposed to Shazier, but I'm hoping for a more marquee guy to slip to #21, rather than a high-ceiling reach.
HOFer
here's an interesting idea that i haven't seen anywhere yet
shazier at safety?
he's obviously athletic and fast enough
he played around 230 this year, a bit lite for any LB, but big for a safety
what are his cover skills like? anyone know?
ok, he's pretty good in the passing game
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...ing-at-pro-day
Mayock said Shazier is a great fit for today's NFL because "he's so good in the pass game."
Last edited by red; 03-07-2014 at 07:05 PM.
That what I thought of him too... would only want him as a safety.
The Packers don't like physical safeties though... they want their safeties to be corners. The Packers have never cared if their DB's could tackle or not. If they can? then great, but it certainly isn't a priority for them. They want all their DB's to be able to cover, and that's it.
wist
Pass coverage is a top priority in a passing league. Still, I seem to remember this guy, Woodson?, who could tackle. I think he was a defensive back. Maybe he was a LB; it's been a few years and my memory is hazy. Some people thought he was pretty good.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
That's why they seem to draw straws before one attempts a tackle.
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Now you are entering Red territory with overstating your point.
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
Nah, you play him inside at Brad Jones' spot, and find a bigger athlete for Hawk's spot. If he can run like a deer you'd think he could play pass coverage...but you never know. IMO the ILBs lack speed and range.
I'd like to see Mulumba on the field more... I'd prefer he start over either Jones or Hawk.
wist
He's an OLB.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Ohh CANADA !
He'll be just fine afterall...he's in TT ad MM's Developmental Program. It's the envy of the entire NFL.
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** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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Ryan Shazier is also named Aaron Maybin if you jump into a time machine and go back a few years. But seriously, he's too small, and most likely will never be effective because of it (as a pass rusher). As a traditional linebacker, he might not be bad.
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