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http://www.draftace.com/player-ranki...13-rankings-2/Originally Posted by run pMc
elam- 87
cyprien- 86
Shamarko Thomas- 84
D.J. Swearinger- 87
Kenny Vaccaro- 84
Eric Reid- 84
so he has both clinton dix and pryor ranked higher then all the safeties last year and he has jimmy ward rated just as highly as anyone last year
the link for the 2012 ratings are broken or something, but the 2011 ratings work and he only had one guy with a rating above 80
2011:
Rk Player School Rating
1. Rahim Moore UCLA 87
2. Quinton Carter Oklahoma 78
3. DeAndre McDaniel Clemson 76
4. Tyler Sash Iowa 75
5. Deunta Williams North Carolina 72
6. Jaiquawn Jarrett Temple 69
7. Robert Sands West Virginia 68
8. Joe Lefeged Rutgers 67
9. Eugene Clifford Tennessee State 64
10. Chris Conte California 63
2012:
1. Mark Barron Alabama 93 –
2. Harrison Smith Notre Dame 85 –
3. Antonio Allen South Carolina 66 –
4. Trenton Robinson Michigan State 65 –
5. George Iloka Boise State 65 –
6. Brandon Taylor LSU 63 –
7. Janzen Jackson McNeese State 62 –
8. Christian Thompson South Carolina St 61 –
9. Markelle Martin Oklahoma State 60 –
10. Aaron Henry Wisconsin 57 –
Yuck. Yeah, maybe this class is better than the last few for safeties
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Mainly because he has Jared Abbrederis as the 6th best WR in the draft. If Jared Abbrederis is the 6th best WR in this draft, then the talent in this year's WR class has been vastly overrated.
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1. Truly believes Savage is rising because coaches have become involved and love his physical makeup and skills. Scouts pegged him 3rd to 5th round because of accuracy problems. If true, could be entirely dependent on how good his OC and QB coach are. Accuracy is hard to fix.
2. Nix and Tuitt are both considered in the same camp as Clowney in terms of questionable work ethic. Nix had the better season despite the concern and isn't expected to fall out of the 1st, but Tuitt could be in for a fall. Neither plays as well as they profile.
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I'm with Harrell on the safeties. I'd rather have Ward than the other two. HaHa doesn't have the athletic ability that I want in a first round safety. Pryor reminds me of Brandon Merriweather. I see Ryan Pickett in Nix also. It wouldn't be a terrible pick late in the first round (Pickett went late 1st round also). #21 might be a tad high for Nix.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
Highly doubtful Ward lasts til our round 2 pick. Do you want him in 1 ? That might be too high but by the time our round 2 pick gets there a lot of the safeties are going to be gone
I'd take either safety over Ward w/o thinking about it though. Haha will be long gone by 15 IMO and I have a bad feeling Prior is headed to the Bears. I think it's unlikely he's there at 21. I'd be fine with Ward at 21 as well. I'd take him over Nix
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i think i would be fine with ward at 21
trading back 5 spots or so and grabbing ward would be nice, but trading down will be tough, and i'm starting to see more mocks with ward flying up boards into the mid to late 20's
Lately the mocks fwiw have Ward rising and Nix falling.
Think about Free Agency.....SO many teams need a safety. they are going to get picked sooner than we think IMO
I'd like to see a safety in round one or two and then I'd like to see Ed Reynolds picked up later in the draft as well. Bringing in some competition sends the msg that the level of play last year was unacceptable
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I just watched a full game of Ryan Shazier (2013, Indiana.) Whoa, so friggin fast and explosive!!!
He's interesting.
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The more you watch him the more you'll like him....and I detest Ohio State.
If we are going to jump up to the elite NFC tier..we need to contain guys like Vernon Davis and Kaperprick. He gives us speed and tenacity. He can blitz; he can cover; he can tackle. He's everything Nick Perry isn't...a perfect fit for our defense who probably ends up inside but who could be used as a OLB as well. He's a guy who has a shot against the Vernon Davis and Jimmy Grahams' of the world without having to redo your defensive plan to have a shot.
If the Eagles don't take him I think he's likely to fall into our laps at 21 and I'm on board with him as our pick.
I also like your list...except Nix. Of your list I don't think the MSU Cornerback makes it to us. I'm doubting Prior does either
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
On the topic of safeties, what are some thoughts about Terrence Brooks. Seems everyone is high on the top three, Dix, Pryor and Ward. I think Dix is a pipe dream if TT stands pat at 21, Pryor, although a good player, doesn't fit what we need and Ward, I just don't know much about. We need that fast safety that can cover alot of ground.
Looks like Brooks is slated to go somewhere in the 2-3 round area. Just going off what I've read, he seems like he'd be a good fit for what the Packers need. He maybe a little unpolished, but so was Nick Collins.
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like bretsky said a bit ago, there could be a big run on safeties after what we saw in free agency. teams know that safety play is important
that said, i expect brooks to be gone by our second round pick. probably high to mid second round pick from what i've been seeing
after brooks who i put at the #4 safety, you have bucannon, who might be there at our second pick
then you have ed reynolds who is probably a third rounder. then the bottom completely falls out of the safety pool and IMHO there isn't much worth looking at
so theres 5 maybe 6 guys in the whole draft that are worth drafting IMO, all will probably be gone by our 3rd round pick
Ward would be a target to trade back for, common for Ted.
Uncommon for Ted, the fact that we actually identify his target.
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I'd be all for that. Then go CB, WR and TE with the next picks... Teddy's about building depth and developing talent through the draft (Captain Obvious).
I don't know much about the ceiling for a guy like James Nixon at CB and haven't boned up on this year's draft prospects but a physical perimeter defender that can play the ball and run with guys like CJ and the beasts outside for the Bears would be huge, especially considering Tramon Williams is undersized, aging, an injury risk, overpaid, and possibly on his last run with team both physically and contractually. I think we've seen enough of House to be concerned about his ability to hold up outside as a full-time player.
The contract situation with Nelson and Cobb are also a cause for concern depth-wise and my bet is there's a tight end that can be picked up in the third round and inserted right into the top of the rotation at that position.
Brandin Cooks, WR, would be a fun pick too. 4.33 40 yard dash, 1,700 yards in the PAC 12 in one season!!! His tape looks good. It would be fun to see a guy like that in Green Bay.
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Boom. a younger, cheaper, Desean Jackson without the baggage. What's his projected draft slot? Would he last deep into the 2nd?
I think he's right around our area of the first round. He plays similar to Tavon Austin and Desean Jackson, but he's 190lbs, not 170. He put up outrageous production numbers and spectacular athletic numbers. He has some special qualities that make him talked about in the mid-late first round.
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Gotcha. It'd be exciting to add a guy like that to Rodgers' arsenal. Checked out his highlights and he looks like a crisp route runner for a deep threat, not the least bit afraid of contact and goes aggressive after the ball for a smallish receiver. Faster and probably more physical than Greg Jennings but kind of reminiscent of him too to me.
Some options in our are I like:
Darqueze Dennard, CB
Ryan Shazier, LB
Louis Nix III, NG
Calvin Pryor, SS/FS
Brandin Cooks, WR
These are the guys I like that could last till pick 21.
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I enjoy the articles about sleeper prospects. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...2014-nfl-draft
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