When was the last time the pundits called Ted's pick outside of AJ Hawk?Originally Posted by Fritz
When was the last time the pundits called Ted's pick outside of AJ Hawk?
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Brooks has speed to spare. Even if he never becomes a starter, he would at least push Jarrett Bush off the roster.
Tennessee reportedly not picking up 2015 option on Jake Locker. http://tracking.si.com/2014/04/30/ti...5-team-option/
Do we add them to the list of teams looking to draft a QB early? Many thought they were targeting Anthony Barr.
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Maybe, but wouldn't say for sure. Locker is not a total loss, just not worth $14M that the option would've given him - he was a top 10 pick.
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Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
Reports keep coming out of Detroit - different reporters - that the Leos want to trade up.
They're Jonesin' for Watkins, and unless Mayhew is a genius and this is all a smokescreen, they're not even trying to hide it.
And I don't think it is a smokescreen. It's clear that the mandate from above is "win now," so there's no holding back. This might be another one of those years in which the Lions trade up - either to get Watkins, or, if they sit tight at ten, they may well trade up from their second round pick to try to get back into the first, late. That'd probably require their third, but they do have two fourths.
'Sniff. Sniff' What's that smell?
Ah, the sickly slightly sour smell of desperation.
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I hope they get their wish. Its worked out well for the Falcons.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
A trio of Megatron, Tate, and Watkins with Reggie Bush would be hard to stop.
They would be. But they threw for almost 4,500 yards last year and had almost 6,300 yards in total offense last year. Where do the extra yards come from? If you throw for another 1,000 yards you are taking 100-250 carries away from the running game and Bush.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
Maybe the Lions are more worried about Megatron's knee than people realize.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
This could be, although the Detroit reporters have not sniffed this out yet, if it is the case.
As for the top safeties, here's what the GBPG said today about teams in front of the Packers who need a safety:
"The teams in the market for a starting safety and picking ahead of the Packers are Detroit at No. 10, St. Louis at No. 13, Chicago at No. 14 and Baltimore at No. 17."
This is not entirely true. Detroit has that FA they signed from Baltimore (Idhegibo?) and the other safety they signed from Houston last year (can't remember his name). They both project as starters.
They likely will be looking for a safety, but my guess is that it won't come with the first round pick. They are in "win now" mode, and getting a player with the first pick who may not start immediately, after throwing FA money at the position two years running, is not part of that plan.
Likely they'd draft someone in the third round, if they still have that pick when it comes around.
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There is a lot of assuming going on about safety needs. Lions, Eagles and Bears all signed bodies there and that may ratchet down pressure to pick a safety in the first round.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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how nice would it be to trade down a few spots, pick up an extra 3rd or 4th, draft a falling mosely (better instincts) or shazier (better athletic ability) then take our second and third, and /or the pick we got in the trade down to move back up to the top of the second and grab ward
like the raji, mathews draft. two major needs addressed with two great talents
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hmmm
here's shaziers game tape against clemson from this year
someone tell me whats "special" about this guy. he put up freak numbers at his combine, but i don't see those combine skills being used on the field. i see a guy who has a problem getting off blocks, a guy thats taking a lot of bad angles and missing tackles, and a guy that makes his tackles 8 yards down field
don't we already have a white version of the same player already on the team (put up big numbers at OSU, put up freak numbers in pre draft workouts, has troubles getting off blocks and makes a lot of plays way down field?
hell, hawk might actually look better because he doesn't miss tackles or take horrible angles, and he finishes plays and goes all out on every single snap. i don't see that with shazier
Last edited by red; 05-01-2014 at 12:27 PM.
That tape is not impressive. Didn't see him really willing to take on contact. It also bring up a concern I've expressed about him previously, which is his weight. He weighed 237 at the Combine, but played in the 220's. He looks more like a safety out there. I wonder if the can keep the weight on during the season.
One think I will say in his defense is that the Ohio St. DL was getting dominated, and that always makes it tough on a linebacker. The same thing happened to Manti Teo against Alabama, but he had a pretty good rookie year for San Diego.
Last edited by Joemailman; 05-01-2014 at 01:29 PM.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Just stop talking
We know he is going to be small and quick. He will more often than not go around blocks of anyone except a WR. That's true of most rangey ILBs. The ones that are both strong AND fast get taken in the top 10 picks. There isnt one of those this year. If Shazier can run with a TE and has decent coverage abilities to go along with his Joker capabilities, he is worth the pick. If he cannot, then... well, not so much.
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and heres something to backup what i've been saying for months
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...group-overall/
At a press conference Thursday, Eagles G.M. Howie Roseman told reporters safety was not a particularly deep position in this year’s draft.
“In terms of the safety class, I don’t think it’s a good group overall,” Roseman said, according to Sheil Kapedia of PhillyMag.com. “I think you’re talking about a dropoff certainly when you get into Saturday.Four safeties — Alabama’s Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Northern Illinois’ Jimmie Ward, Florida State’s Terrence Brooks and Louisville’s Calvin Pryor — rank in the top third of Rotoworld draft expert Josh Norris’ list of the top 150 draft prospects.
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I generally agree about the safeties, but their are a couple midround safeties that I like in Vereen and Reynolds, and there are a number of corners that project to safety in the NFL who I think could be pretty good (Breeland, Huff, Johnson).
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
Dear Harvey......are you still a fan of the Douchebag Colleage in OSU ? You should have a good take on Shazier...what is it ?
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
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I like him. My final ILB board may have him at the top.Tough though because Mosley is a just a solid all-around player. He has a high floor. I'm not 100% positive that Shazier's game will translate to the NFL though. I think he has more upside than Mosley, and he might be the right fit for the Packers because our LBs have lacked coverage skills.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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