official 2014 nfl draft thread

[smuggler]

Barr would be preferable to the other guys mentioned from a BPA perspective.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...raft-prospects

Tracking teams' interest in top 2014 NFL Draft prospects

Published: May 2, 2014 at 03:32 p.m.
Updated: May 2, 2014 at 03:44 p.m.


Green Bay Packers

General manager at pro day: N/A

Head coach at pro day: N/A

Reported workout/visits:

Luke Bowanko, C, Virginia;

Jeremy Butler, WR, Tennessee-Martin;

Brandon Dixon, CB, Northwest Missouri State;

John Fullington, G, Washington State;

Brock Jensen, QB, North Dakota State;

Tom Savage, QB, Pittsburgh;

Jimmy Staten, DT, Middle Tennessee State;

Keith Wenning, QB, Ball State

[pbmax]

Interesting list with two Packer entries. Also worrisome because a lot of these guys turned into pudding as pros.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Interesting list with two Packer entries. Also worrisome because a lot of these guys turned into pudding as pros.

Looks like 3 Packers, Datone Jones, Nick Perry, and Jeremy Thompson.

[Fritz]

Ruh roh. Jeremy Thompson - he turned not into a pudding but a pud.

Let's hope Nick Perry and Datone Jones don't follow suit, and maybe get closer to Aldon Smith (playwise) and Mario Williams than to Aaron Maybin and Vernon Gholston.

[pbmax]

Uncanny how close Thompson and Perry are.

[Fritz]

Shush, you.

[smuggler]

Thompson retired due to injury and also had to deal with a position change even before that. Gholston and, to a lesser extent, Maybin are more damning. Maybin is a cautionary tale wrt to Shazier if anything.

[red]

this big board is interesting

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/2014-nf...3927--nfl.html

they have bridgewater as the #1 guy in the draft, even though others have dropped him out of the 1st round

they have pryor as the top safety and #16 overall

but then they have jimmie ward as the #2 safety, #20 overall. they do have him listed as running a 4.59 40 even though he didn't run it at the combine and ran a 4.47 at his proday

and finally, clinton-dix as the #3 safety at #22 overall

[Guiness]

this big board is interesting

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/2014-nf...3927--nfl.html

they have bridgewater as the #1 guy in the draft, even though others have dropped him out of the 1st round

they have pryor as the top safety and #16 overall

but then they have jimmie ward as the #2 safety, #20 overall. they do have him listed as running a 4.59 40 even though he didn't run it at the combine and ran a 4.47 at his proday

and finally, clinton-dix as the #3 safety at #22 overall

You kind of have to think the person who made up this board is just trying to stand out - dropping Clowney out of the top spot in favour of Bridgewater, but also having Manziel all the way down at #27 -- I don't think I've seen him lower than 5 (certainly not 10) anywhere else.

[pbmax]

You kind of have to think the person who made up this board is just trying to stand out - dropping Clowney out of the top spot in favour of Bridgewater, but also having Manziel all the way down at #27 -- I don't think I've seen him lower than 5 (certainly not 10) anywhere else.

SI's online Draft Board also has Bridgewater at #1. Some people think the anti-Bridgewater is mostly spin, helped by a bad pro day.

[smuggler]

The difference between the pro time and the combine time is only relevant for linemen. If he's been clocked at 4.47, he runs 4.47

[pbmax]

CBS Mock Drafts have both top ranked safeties off the board by pick #21 in each of five mocks. 2 of them have Ward drafted by then. All Packer picks are linebackers (Shazier and Mosley).

[red]

CBS Mock Drafts have both top ranked safeties off the board by pick #21 in each of five mocks. 2 of them have Ward drafted by then. All Packer picks are linebackers (Shazier and Mosley).

yeah i saw those. kirwin has 3 safeties off the board when we pick. thats what i fear, a run on safeties. that means teams in need will pull the trigger quick in the second round too, leaving us without the top 3, or the rest of the decent prospects by the time our 2nd round pick comes around

[pbmax]

yeah i saw those. kirwin has 3 safeties off the board when we pick. thats what i fear, a run on safeties. that means teams in need will pull the trigger quick in the second round too, leaving us without the top 3, or the rest of the decent prospects by the time our 2nd round pick comes around

I have a hard time believing that though. Safety is usually one of the afterthought positions. Could happen, but hasn't happened a lot in the past, especially considering that one of them has a second round grade on a lot of boards (Ward-often, Prior-a couple, Dix-one).

[Guiness]

I have a hard time believing that though. Safety is usually one of the afterthought positions. Could happen, but hasn't happened a lot in the past, especially considering that one of them has a second round grade on a lot of boards (Ward-often, Prior-a couple, Dix-one).

Safety doesn't seem to be a position at which a lot of emphasis is placed to draft early, but I wouldn't be surprised to see that change with the league becoming ever more pass centric. Having said that, over the past 4 years, there have been 3, 2, 0 and 2 safeties drafted in the first round.

[red]

the thinking is, that the thinking is changing after what the seahawks were able to do with 2 very good safeties last season

if your safeties are able to do anything (ours were not) then that allows that extra second or two for your pass rush to look all world

[red]

this is interesting. derrick carr says that he's been told by 4 or 5 teams that they would like to take him in the 20's. PFT thinks that those 4 or 5 teams are teams with high second round picks that would want to move back up into the 20's to take him

could be just the kind of high demand that the folks in the "trade back" camp are looking for. if 4 or 5 teams are in the hunt, then you should be able to rape the hell out of some other team for #21

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ry/rumor-mill/

[Fritz]

this is interesting. derrick carr says that he's been told by 4 or 5 teams that they would like to take him in the 20's. PFT thinks that those 4 or 5 teams are teams with high second round picks that would want to move back up into the 20's to take him

could be just the kind of high demand that the folks in the "trade back" camp are looking for. if 4 or 5 teams are in the hunt, then you should be able to rape the hell out of some other team for #21

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ry/rumor-mill/

Article today in the JSO in which some unnamed scout or personnel guy for some team goes through the Packers' roster to assess need.

I was okay with this "expert" opinion, though nothing seemed too especially insightful, until I got to this statement on the state of the center position:

""They got a guy (JC Tretter) they drafted last year in the fourth round. They don't have a need. At some point he has to (play). He's a fourth-round pick! What the hell did they pick him for? He must be hell on wheels to pick a center that high. C'mon."

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If I recall correctly, and I believe I do, Tretter was a tackle.

The Packerrats - even the ones with whom I vehemently disagree - know more than this so-called expert. At least about the Packer's roster.

[gbgary]

my top three hopes for our 1st rd pick...

1- safety or linebacker
2-linebacker or safety
3-te

it better be 1 or 2!