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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    A few free safeties off the top of my head that had similar 40 times.

    Ed Reed 4.57 40
    Jairus Byrd 4.68 40
    Dashon Goldson 4.65 40
    Antrel Rolle 4.5 50
    Malcom Jenkins 4.53 40

    If 40 times matter more for FS then why would teams move slower CBs to FS? Its about instincts, taking the right angles, and tackling since they are the last line of defense.
    You had those guys' 40 times off the top of your head? Impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    You had those guys' 40 times off the top of your head? Impressive.
    Haha not at all, I had to look up their 40 times. Just by watching them over the years I knew they didn't have Nick Collins type speed.

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    And since when was Bob McGinn an expert on anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    And since when was Bob McGinn an expert on anything?
    He's not an expert, but he usually does good digging and has records on a lot of drafts going back quite a way.

    So when he writes that those 40 times are kinda pedestrian for the safety position in the first round, I take it seriously. However, as I think someone posted before, Ed Reed's 40 time wasn't fabulous either. So I am open to other opinions.

    Bob doesn't report out all his data (see Bigger/Stronger/Tougher) so its not a lock by any means.
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    I can't take him seriously ever since he wrote that article about Seneca Wallace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    I can't take him seriously ever since he wrote that article about Seneca Wallace.
    You know Seneca wasn't up to snuff, as he was never named the Byron "Whizzer" White NFL Man of the Year. I bet Bob didn't even know that.
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    That raises a good point. How far along is the Nick Collins cloning project coming along?

    Any progress on accelerated aging of the clone?
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    More I've heard, the less likely I believe Shazier makes it to 21. And my gut says they don't take a safety, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
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    More I've heard, the less likely I believe Shazier makes it to 21. And my gut says they don't take a safety, either.
    I was starting to feel Shazier would be gone by the time we picked which is why I found it funny some were talking about trading down then drafting him. I hope we trade down instead of reaching to filll a need but I'm really starting to think Stephon Tuitt will be our 1st round pick. TT always seems to pick someone that no one predicts.
    Last edited by Brandon494; 05-07-2014 at 04:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    I'm really starting to think Stephon Tuitt will be our 1st round pick. TT always seems to pick someone that no one predicts.
    So much for Stephon Tuitt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    I was starting to feel Shazier would be gone by the time we picked which is why I found it funny some were talking about trading down then drafting him. I hope we trade down instead of reaching to filll a need but I'm really starting to think Stephon Tuitt will be our 1st round pick. TT always seems to pick someone that no one predicts.
    If The NE Pat's get wind of that then maybe TT gets them to trade picks as I've ben seeing DT Stephon Tuitt Mocked to them.

    The Pats are also hungry for a solid TE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    I was starting to feel Shazier would be gone by the time we picked which is why I found it funny some were talking about trading down then drafting him. I hope we trade down instead of reaching to filll a need but I'm really starting to think Stephon Tuitt will be our 1st round pick. TT always seems to pick someone that no one predicts.
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    4.58 is plenty enough speed at safety, but speed does make a difference at the position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    4.58 is plenty enough speed at safety, but speed does make a difference at the position.
    Speed makes a difference at any position but to say a player can't be elite because he doesn't have elite speed isn't accurate.
    Last edited by Brandon494; 05-07-2014 at 04:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    Speed makes a difference at any position but to say a player can't be elite because he doesn't have elite speed isn't accurate.
    I am less worried about speed with Prior because I presume that Burnett is in the backend and Prior plays LOS in single safety. If its Dix, then I am worried a bit.
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    I'm worried Kony Ealy might be the pick, provided Shazier and Mosley and the safeties are gone and TT can't trade down. Just what we need, another Tweener.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pittstang5 View Post
    I'm worried Kony Ealy might be the pick, provided Shazier and Mosley and the safeties are gone and TT can't trade down. Just what we need, another Tweener.
    yup, no more fucking tweeners, if we draft another de/olb high in the draft, i'll explode

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    Quote Originally Posted by pittstang5 View Post
    I'm worried Kony Ealy might be the pick, provided Shazier and Mosley and the safeties are gone and TT can't trade down. Just what we need, another Tweener.
    Before I even knew anything much about him (or the other top prospects) I had a dream that we drafted him and he was out of the league in 2 years.

    .... I also had a dream wherein Datone Jones committed suicide. Really horrible Packer dreams of late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    Before I even knew anything much about him (or the other top prospects) I had a dream that we drafted him and he was out of the league in 2 years.

    .... I also had a dream wherein Datone Jones committed suicide. Really horrible Packer dreams of late.
    WTF is wrong with you man? You have a sick mind....our first round draft pick out of the league in 2 years?

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